Mary Protheroe 1791 Abenhall married Philip Edwards Monmouth (General)
by hmserge, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 05:37 (5764 days ago)
Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could possibly help me. I'm trying to find any information about Mary Protheroe who was born about 1791 Abenhall, Gloucestershire. I've searched wherever I can think of searching to find her parents names, but have had no luck whatsoever.
I know she married Philip Edwards on the 23 Oct 1814 at Monmouth (Philip Edwards was from Monmouthshire) and in 1841 and 1851 they were living at East Dean, Gloucestershire.
How on earth do I find out who she was or where she came from? I thought I might have been able to find something for her or her family on your fantastic site, but don't seem to have had much luck.
Any advice or where to look next would be much appreciated or if there are any others looking for Protheroe's it would be great to hear from you.
Thank you
Mary ? 1790 ish Abenhall
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 06:02 (5764 days ago) @ hmserge
this is a long shot
need a later Protheroe marriage or declaration of a Protheroe father , but perhaps she was baptised as a Yearsley
Year 1790
Month Jul
Day 4
Parents Surname YEASLEY
Child Forenames Mary
Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Mothers Forenames Hannah
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/3
Page Number 12
Parish Chapel Abenhall
Year: 1792
Month: Dec
Day: 3
Grooms_Surname: MALSON
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Lea
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YEARSLY
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Abenhall
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Richd Lowe
Witness_2: Mark of John Malson
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Probyn
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: 2 record number 4's
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
This is probably her marriage...
Year: 1812
Month: Nov
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: YEM
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YEARSLEY
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of William Malson
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Robins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/6
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
1861
Philip Edwards abt 1788 Langdogar, Monmouthshire, Wales Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Mary ? 1790 ish Abenhall
by hmserge, Sunday, April 26, 2009, 06:11 (5764 days ago) @ slowhands
Hi and thanks for your reply.
It could well be the correct Mary as the date ties in along with the area.
I found the marriage for Philip Edwards and Mary Protheroe on family search .org, this is why I was presuming that her maiden name was Protheroe. Unless she was married before to a Protheroe?
She does give her place of birth as being Abinghall on the 1851 census.. very confusing.
On the family search .org it states that the marriage was 23 Dec 1814, do you think it could be the same couple?
Mary ? 1790 ish Abenhall
by Dewey, Monday, April 27, 2009, 05:03 (5763 days ago) @ slowhands
Slowhands, am I missing something. I think that the Mary Yeasly or Yearsley, daughter of Hannah married my 3rd gr uncle William Yem in 1812 and therefore could not be the Mary who married Philip Edwards in 1814 as William and Mary were still togather in later census and baptisms. Straighten me out please.
Thank you, Dewey
Mary Protheroe 1791 Abenhall married Philip Edwards Monmouth
by Juliette Shackleton , Monday, April 27, 2009, 06:41 (5763 days ago) @ hmserge
Re: Mary Protheroe 1791 Abenhall married Philip Edwards Monmouth
I'm connected to this line and have been wondering if Mary wife of Philip EDWARDS is Mary Tyngle, daughter of William Tyngle and his wife Mary, baptised June 9th 1789 at Abenhall.
There is a marriage record, transcription is: Mary TINGLE to a Philip EVANS in 1812, in Mitcheldean. Long shot, but could EVANS be a mistranscription for EDWARDS? The date and region are right as the couple began baptising children at Abenhall around 1815.
Juliette
Mary Protheroe 1791 Abenhall married Philip Edwards Monmouth
by Juliette Shackleton , Monday, April 27, 2009, 07:03 (5762 days ago) @ Juliette Shackleton
Also, I've just done a search for EDWARDS baptisms in Mitcheldean around 1812-15 and have found a record for William, son of Philip and Mary EDWARDS baptised June 26th,1814. On here his father's occupation is hoop maker which ties into Philip's occupation in the later census.
What do you think?
Juliette
Mary Tingle 1791 Abenhall married Philip ?Edwards Monmouth
by Juliette Shackleton , Sunday, October 25, 2009, 00:02 (5582 days ago) @ Juliette Shackleton
I submitted a query about the Mary TINGLE / Philip EVANS or EDWARDS marriage in Mitcheldean (Mar 16th 1812) to the site, and got a really helpful response, which I'm including to complete the thread for the sake of future researchers.
Date: 2009-05-01 05:23:01
Name: Graham Davison
Message:
I`ve just looked at both the parish register and also the BTs, in the BTs the marriage is clearly between Philip EDWARDS and Mary TINGLE. Unfortunately the top of the page is cut off in the parish register, but in the signature box the name is Philip Evans. We are currently doing a comparison between the BTs and PRs for Mitcheldean, so I will need to rephotograph this page from the parish register. Sorry I can`t give a more definite answer.
Graham Davison
Project Coordinator
So it's a definite possibility that the Mary in question who married Philip EDWARDS was Mary TINGLE (also written TYNGLE). Philip is recorded as EDWARDS in every other record other than the marriage where EVANS slips in! The family settled in Green Bottom.
Children of Mary TINGLE & Philip EDWARDS, Abenhall area
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 09:40 (5581 days ago) @ Juliette Shackleton
1841 Green Bottom
Philip Edwards abt 1791 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Edwards abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hariet Edwards abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
1851 Green bottom
Phillip Edward abt 1789 Trelleck, Monmouthshire, Wales Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Hoop maker
Mary Edward abt 1789 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
1861
Philip Edwards abt 1788 Langdogar, Monmouthshire, Wales Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Year 1814
Month Jun
Day 26
Parents Surname EDWARDS
Child Forenames William
Fathers Forenames Philip
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Abinghall
Occupation Hoop Maker
Officiating Minister Josiah Allport
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 220 IN 1/3
Page Number 6
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean
Year 1815
Month Nov
Day 12
Parents Surname EDWARDS
Child Forenames Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames Philip
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Abinghall
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Ed. Probyn
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/7
Page Number 6
Parish Chapel Abenhall
Year 1818
Month Jan
Day 18
Parents Surname EDWARDS
Child Forenames Harriott
Fathers Forenames Philip
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Abinghall
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Ed. Probyn
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/7
Page Number 10
Parish Chapel Abenhall
Year 1820
Month Jun
Day 7
Parents Surname EDWARDS
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames Philip
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Abinghall
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J. Newport
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/7
Page Number 14
Parish Chapel Abenhall
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Philip EDWARDS 1789 Trelleck/ Llandogo area
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 09:45 (5581 days ago) @ slowhands
Year: 1789
Month: May
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: EDWARDS
Child_Forenames: Phillip
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Llandogo Monmouth
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Mary EDWARDS nee TINGLE Abenhall area 1788 - 1857
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 09:57 (5581 days ago) @ slowhands
Year: 1789
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: TYNGLE
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: BTs give surname as Tingle
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Year: 1812
Month: Mar
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: EVANS
Grooms_Forenames: Philip
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: TINGLE
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Fryer
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Mathews
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/6
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
Year: 1857
Month: Jul
Day: 4
Surname: EDWARDS
Forenames: Mary
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 69
Officiating_Minister: J. Davies
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/11
Page_No: 51
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Mary EDWARDS nee TINGLE Abenhall area 1788 - 1857 -siblings
by Juliette Shackleton , Thursday, October 29, 2009, 00:01 (5578 days ago) @ slowhands
Thank you to Slowhands, am now on the trail of the TYNGLE / TINGLEs pre-1800 in Abenhsll. Have found the following additional siblings for Mary, but no marriage for her parents William and Mary in Abenhall. There is a possibility in Newnham though (see below). Would love to hear from anyone with connections.
Record_ID: 149576
Entry_Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Jun
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Christopher Hoskins
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: In this record the child's forename and the father's forename were not clear so the best guess was given.
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Record_ID: 149588
Entry_Number:
Year: 1780
Month: Feb
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
ecord_ID: 149612
Entry_Number:
Year: 1785
Month: Feb
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: not stated
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: BTs give date as March 27 and child's name as Mary. In this record the father's forename was not clear so the best guess was given.
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 10
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Record_ID: 149623
Entry_Number:
Year: 1787
Month: May
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Record_ID: 149658
Entry_Number:
Year: 1791
Month: May
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: TYNGLE
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: BTs spell surname Tingle. In this record the child's forename and the father's forename were not clear so the best guess was given.
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Record_ID: 149677
Entry_Number:
Year: 1793
Month: Feb
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: Robard
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Record_ID: 149793
Entry_Number:
Year: 1783
Month: Jan
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Names omiited by mistake 1783. Not in BTs
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex: T524
Marriage in Littledean is a possibility for the parents:
Record_ID: 53149
Entry_Number: 57
Year: 1772
Month: Feb
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: TINGLE
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: extraparochial
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PACKER
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [illegible]
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Tho[ma]s Packer
Witness_2: Anthony Cooper
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Benj[amin] Webb Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex_Groom: T524
Soundex_Bride: P260