Marriage of Thomas TRIGG to Sophia (abt 1860) (General)
Hello,
This is my first post. I am struggling with the marriage of Thomas TRIGG to Sophia. The 1861 Census for East Dean shows Thomas (22) married to Sophia (21). I found baptisms for Bertha TRIGG d.o. Thomas & Sophia TRIGG on 25/12/1863 and subsequent children.
However, the only marriage I have found is from searching parish records on this site (see below). This puts the marriage date at 1866 (much later than the census and baptism records) and a little way from home parishes of East Dean & Abenhall (according to census returns). FreeREG and FreeBMD revealed nothing. Can anyone shed any light?
I am also seeking Thomas' father. Current thoughts are that he was Benjamin TRIGG (b~1768).
Transcript Details
Record_ID: 35316
Entry_Number: 210
Year: 1866
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: TRIGG
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: of age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner in Forest of Dean
Grooms_Residence: Aston Ingham
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Trigg
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: BALDWYN
Brides_Forenames: Sophia
Brides_Age: of age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Milliner
Brides_Residence: Aston Ingham
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Baldwyn
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Gardner
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Aubrey
Witness_2: Elizabeth Aubry
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Hy L Whatley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AR90/7
Page_Number: 105
Parish_Chapel: Aston Ingham
Soundex_Groom: T620
Soundex_Bride: B435
Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, August 23, 2009, 16:23 (5645 days ago) @ mikey15w
Year: 1837
Month: Aug
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: TRIGG
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bailey
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 170
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
1841 Wigpool
Benjamin Trigg abt 1787 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Richard Trigg abt 1818 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Absolom Trigg abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Trigg abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Thomas Trigg abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Trigg abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
1841
James Baldwin abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Ann Baldwin abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Eliza Baldwin abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
David Baldwin abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Sophia Baldwin abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
1851
Benjamin Trigg abt 1788 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Abraham Trigg abt 1828 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Trigg abt 1838 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
1861
Thomas Trigg abt 1839 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Trigg abt 1840 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
This baptism and BMD entry in 1863 tends to support the later marriage - 1866
Year: 1863
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: TRIGG
Child_Forenames: Bertha Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sophia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hawthorns
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William Lockett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P/109 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
assuming this is a Xmas baptism for :-
Name: Bertha Baldwin
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 199
its possible he and Sophia were living together in 1861 - why tell the enumerator the whole truth :-)
This may also explain a marriage out of Parish - Gloucester was popular ...
1871 Drybrook
Thomas Trigg 33
Sophia Trigg 32
Bertha Trigg 9
Evan Trigg 6
Rhoda Trigg 3
Beata Trigg 1
1881 Stenders / Drybrook
Thomas Trigg abt 1839 East Dean Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Trigg abt 1840 East Dean Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Evan Trigg abt 1866 East Dean Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Trigg abt 1868 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Beatrice Trigg abt 1870 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Trigg abt 1872 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Nora Trigg abt 1874 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Othela Trigg abt 1878 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Trigg abt 1879 East Dean Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
1891 Harry Hill
Thomas Trigg abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Trigg abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Othala Trigg abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Trigg abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edmund Trigg abt 1883 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Blanch Trigg abt 1887 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Eddy abt 1889 South, Wales Adopted East Dean, Gloucestershire
1901 Well house
Sophia Trigg abt 1839 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Herefordshire Widow
Emma Trigg abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Herefordshire
Violet B Trigg abt 1887 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Herefordshire
Thomas R Eady abt 1889 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales Grandson Ruardean, Herefordshire
Edith A Moss abt 1871 Derby, Derbyshire, England Boarder Ruardean, Herefordshire
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Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
by jimashton , Sunday, August 23, 2009, 16:46 (5645 days ago) @ slowhands
Thomas Trigg's parents were Benjamin Trigg 1787 & Mary Marfell 1795.
Mary died June 1840.
Refer to this posting :
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=20355
and you will see my posting which includes the will of Mary Marfell's father John and the bequest to Benjamin Trigg, her spouse.
1841 Dean Forest - Wigpool
Benjamin Trigg b 1787
Absalom b 1828
John b 1841
Richard b 1818
Sarah b 1832
Thomas b 1838
1851 Census East Dean
TRIGG Benjamin Widow/er 63 Lime Burner Dean Forest
MEREDITH Elizabeth 31 Wife of Coal Miner below Dean Forest
TRIGG Absolom 23 Coal Miner Dean Forest
Thomas 13 Scholar Dean Forest
MEREDITH Thomas Son in Law 30 Coal Miner Married Little Dean
Mary 9 Scholar Little Dean
Martha 6 East Dean
Samuel 4 Little Dean
Lucy 1 East Dean
EDWARDS Timothy Lodger 27 Hallier coal Forest of Dean
1861 Census East Dean
Benjamin Trigg 72 East Dean
Absalom 34 son Coal Miner East Dean
Sarah wife 30 Hereford
Benjamin son 4 East Dean
Elizabeth dtr 1 & 1/2 East Dean
Thomas Trigg 1837 married Sophia Jane Baldwin daughtere of James Baldwin 1806 & Hannah Howls 1795 who was baptised 18 Jan 1840. The marriage took place at Aston Ingham 7 June 1866.
1861 Census East Dean RG9 1754 177
Thomas Trigg 22 CM East Dean
Sophia 21 Aninghall
1881 Census
Dwelling: Drybrook
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 79 Page 3
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas TRIGG M 42 M East Dean
Rel: Head
Occ: Miner
Sophia TRIGG M 41 F East Dean
Rel: Wife
Evan TRIGG U 15 M East Dean
Rel: Son
Occ: Miner
Rhoda TRIGG U 13 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Beatrice TRIGG U 11 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Emily TRIGG 9 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
Nora TRIGG U 7 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
Othela TRIGG 3 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
Edith TRIGG 2 F East Dean
Rel: Daughter
1891 Census East dean
Thomas Trigg 53 CM East Dean
Sophia 50 East Dean
Othala 13 East Dean
Edith 11 East Dean
Edward 8 East Dean
Blanch 4 East Dean
Thomas Eddy 2 adopted Wales
Jim Ashton
Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
Slowhands & Jim,
Thank you for your rapid and comprehensive responses! Really appreciated.
It does seem as though they married several years after the birth of their first child. I can understand not telling the census enumerator everything - but how would they have got away with baptising Bertha in Drybrook,1863. Wouldn't they have been known by the priest? Anyway - you have helped me through a barrier and I am really grateful! I wish I had found this forum sooner!!!
Thanks again both.
Mike
Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, August 23, 2009, 17:05 (5645 days ago) @ mikey15w
i'm pretty sure there was no mandate to provide a marriage cert at the baptism. Just forgot to provide Mother's surname !
For the official BMD they use Baldwin for Bertha in 1863 :-) although Evan is "officially" a Trigg in 1865
Name: Evan Trigg
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 426
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Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
by jimashton , Monday, August 24, 2009, 11:13 (5644 days ago) @ mikey15w
I have 10 children for Thomas Trigg & Sophia nee Baldwin in my Family Tree, and this does not include Bertha. The first baptism I have is for Esau 25 Jun 1865.
Please note the census detail I posted last time includes the 1861Census showing Thomas Trigg & Sophia, this either means they were living together in 1861 or there is another Thomas Trigg & Sophia.
Note also that I have a Beata baptised 12 November 1869. This translates to the Beatrice shown in the 1881 Census entry. But no Esau or Bertha in 1881. I cannot find baptisms for all of the children I have for Thomas & Sophia. My guess is that Esau & Bertha subsequently died young and it is for that reason they were baptised. I have found this with other families. The death rate for infants was great in those days.
The children I have are Esau 1865, Rhoda 1868, Beata 1869, Emily 1872, Nora 1874, Othela 1878, Edith 1879, Edward 1883, Blanch 1887, Thomas Edward 1889.
A trawl through the deaths would be interesting.
Jim Ashton
Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
Hi Jim,
I cannot find another Thomas and Sophia TRIGG - hence my concern over the delayed marriage in 1866. I do have 2 other children (twins?) who were both baptised on the same day, namely Bertha and Richard Lewis. (see below).
I also had Esau as Evan. I could not find his baptism until I tried the Esau version. However, Slowhands highlighted the registration of Bertha as Bertha BADLWIN and Evan as TRIGG in his earlier posts. I guess Richard must have died.
All other children in my tree match your list.
Re: deaths. I have a burial for Rhoda in 1882. (see below). I will check out the others.
Thanks again for your support. Are you related to the TRIGG's?
Record_ID: 14293
Entry_Number: 147
Year: 1863
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: TRIGG
Child_Forenames: Richard Lewis
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sophia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hawthorns
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William Lockett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P/109 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: T620
Transcript Details
Record_ID: 14292
Entry_Number: 146
Year: 1863
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: TRIGG
Child_Forenames: Bertha Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sophia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hawthorns
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William Lockett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P/109 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: T620
Transcript Details
Record_ID: 78866
Entry_Number: 1269
Year: 1882
Month: May
Day: 9
Surname: TRIGG
Forenames: Rhoda
Residence: Drybrook
Age_at_death: 14
Officiating_Minister: J H Hawkins Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda: Name is annotated Upper Yd 9 Row 15
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/12
Page_No: 159
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: T620
Thomas TRIGG 1837 Drybrook Wigpool / Stenders
by jimashton , Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:55 (5643 days ago) @ mikey15w
Mikey
Re your question about my relationship to the Triggs. My main area of research is the Marfell family. Thomas Trigg's mother was Mary Marfell. I follow all the spouses of Marfell's and their siblings and parents. I have 300 Trigg's in my Family Tree. Thomas would be my 1st cousin 4 times removed.
Jim Ashton
Sophia BALDWIN 1840 Abenhall
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, August 24, 2009, 11:30 (5644 days ago) @ mikey15w
Year: 1840
Month: Apr
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: BALDWIN
Child_Forenames: Sophia Jane
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Abenhall
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: J. Davies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 40
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
1841 Silver St
James Baldwin abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Ann Baldwin abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Eliza Baldwin abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
George Baldwin abt 1830 Abinghall, Gloucestershire
David Baldwin abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Sophia Baldwin abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
1851
James Baldwin abt 1803 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Ann Baldwin abt 1795 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abinghall, Gloucestershire
David Baldwin J abt 1833 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1838 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Sophia Baldwin abt 1840 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire
1901
Sophia Trigg abt 1839 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Herefordshire
Emma Trigg abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Herefordshire
Violet B Trigg abt 1887 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Herefordshire
Thomas R Eady abt 1889 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales Grandson Ruardean, Herefordshire
Edith A Moss abt 1871 Derby, Derbyshire, England Boarder Ruardean, Herefordshire
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