Tracing the Grail family tree (General)

by eastville, Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:50 (5641 days ago)

I am trying to trace the family of John Grail (abt 1896) who married Annie Niblett (1896) on 1914. I believe that John had 7 or 8 brothers and sisters. Some of the sisters married brothers Haddock. If someone can tell me who John's father is, that would be great to link into the Grail family tree already drawn up.

I have tried to trace the family tree using the information on this forum without any luck. I have drawn out the family trees based on the information on this forum and I have a number of queries. Hopefully someone could help clear the wueries up

1. Not sure where Eliza (Elizabeth) Garrett nee Grail, Joseph H (1888) and Mary J (1894) fit into the descendant of Henry Grail (1796) ref Eliza Garrett nee Grail by Slowhands May 10 2009.
2. Not sure how James Geael (1848) and William Greael (1846) are Grandsons of Richard Grail (1814). Also I believe that Jane Geael (1820) is the daughter of Henry Grail (1796) ref 1851 census Woolaston and William (1846) is Jane’s son, possibly James (1848) could also be Jane’s son can any one confirm this.
3. Is Keziah Grail (1814) the same person as Keria Grail (1816)? I understand that Richard (1814) was in prison during 1841 census. By comparing 1851 census for Henry (1796) and Richard (1814) with Census 1841, Edward (1837)and Joseph (1840) sons of Richard were with grandfather Henry (1796) at census 1841) can this be confirmed.
4. I am a little puzzled by Sarah posting George Grails’ 1868 son of Henry part 2 where Frederick (1844) had a son William Edger (1983), Frederick would be 49 at the time of William’s birth. I not that Frederick and Elizabeth (nee Evans) had lots of children. Does anyone know the names of these children?
5. I am a little puzzled with the census record of 1851 for Henry Grail (1791) Is this the same Henry as Henry (1796) in the 1841 census. The clues are that they both married Mary and have a son named Henry (1836). There are 3 additional names of children born after 1841 census, John (1843), Mary Ann (1850) and Richard (1847). I suspect these may not be Henry’s children especially Richard, as Henry already has a son called Richard (1814). Could these three additional names be grandchildren? Ref slowhands posting George Grail 1868 G son of Henry 11 June 2006.

Many thanks in antisipation

Steve

John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:58 (5641 days ago) @ eastville

Year: 1914
Month: Apr
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: GRAIL
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 27 1914-27 = 1887
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Tin Worker
Grooms_Residence: Aylburton Lydney
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Grail
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Tin Worker
Brides_Surname: NIBLETT
Brides_Forenames: Annie
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Gloucester Road Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Niblett
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Worthy Grail
Witness_2: Annie Mary Perkins
Other_Witnesses: Harry Niblett Nellie Dickinson Henry Perki
Officiating_Minister: Cecil W Morris
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 50
Parish_Chapel: Coleford


1901
John Grail abt 1858 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Head Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Sarah Grail abt 1861 Gatcombe, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Worthy Grail abt 1885 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire
John Grail abt 1887 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Gertrude M Grail abt 1889 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
James G Grail abt 1891 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Grail abt 1893 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Mary E Grail abt 1895 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Alice Grail abt 1897 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Thomas W A Grail abt 1900 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire


Year: 1886
Month: Aug
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: GRAIL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tutnalls Lane
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: E.Louis C.Clapton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 63
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

then back to Worthy Grail ( senior)
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=3275

and Henry Grail 1791 ish

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John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by pclark @, Thursday, August 27, 2009, 13:28 (5641 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi

There are Grails buried at Aylburton Churchyard

Pete

John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by eastville, Thursday, August 27, 2009, 17:38 (5641 days ago) @ pclark

Many thanks to Slowhands and Pete for a quick response. I shall be using this information to update the family tree.

I am aware that some Grails burried in Alyburton church. I understand that both John and his wife Annie are burried there.

Regards

Steve

John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by pclark @, Thursday, August 27, 2009, 17:51 (5641 days ago) @ eastville

If I remember rightly the Grails are on the right hand of the path somewhere in the middle.
Not sure of the names though.
If I get 5 minutes I go have a look for you.

Pete

John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by gallois, Sunday, January 10, 2010, 18:19 (5505 days ago) @ pclark

Jane Grails son William was illegitimate. He married Harriet Gregory sometime in the 1860's and there daughter Matilda b1882 married my great-uncle Charles Easton.
I will happily share all my Grail info with you if you email me E-mail address deleted by admin
Do you have anything before Henry 1791 ?

John GRAIL 1886 Aylburton

by admin ⌂, Forest of Dean, Monday, January 11, 2010, 02:02 (5505 days ago) @ gallois

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