THOMAS & EMMA MORGAN Coleford (General)

by Nick Morgan @, Friday, August 28, 2009, 17:59 (5640 days ago)

trying to trace family ancestors Thomas born Newland 1836 Emma born Newland 1846

Tom MORGAN 1836 Newland

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, August 28, 2009, 18:06 (5640 days ago) @ Nick Morgan

trying to trace family ancestors.

some dates will help us help you :-)

1841 nr Birchamp House
Richard Morgan abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Sarah Morgan abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Edwid Morgan abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Robert Morgan abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Tom Morgan abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

1851
William Loar abt 1775 Kingsteignton, Devon, England Father Kingsteignton, Devon
Edward Loar abt 1819 Kingsteignton, Devon, England Head Kingsteignton, Devon
Helen Loar abt 1823 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Kingsteignton, Devon
Thomas Morgan abt 1837 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Apprentice Kingsteignton, Devon

1861
Richard Morgan abt 1793 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Coleford and Newland, Gloucestershire
Sarah Morgan abt 1794 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Coleford and Newland, Gloucestershire
Robert Morgan abt 1831 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Coleford and Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas Morgan abt 1836 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Coleford and Newland, Gloucestershire


1871 Coleford
Jane Bendle 66
Edward Bendle 22
Edmund Morgan 6

1881
Thomas Morgan abt 1837 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Emma Morgan abt 1841 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Edmund Morgan abt 1865 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1875 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Bessie Morgan abt 1878 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire


1891
Thomas Morgan abt 1838 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Emma Morgan abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1874 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Morgan abt 1884 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Lilly Morgan abt 1886 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1901
Thomas Morgan abt 1836 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Emma Morgan abt 1839 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Lilly Morgan abt 1886 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire

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by tomsand ⌂ @, Bream, Forest of Dean, Saturday, August 29, 2009, 13:04 (5639 days ago) @ Nick Morgan

Hi Nick
Here is briefly what I know. (If I have the correct family!)
Thomas Morgan was baptised at Newland on January 31st 1836.
He was the son of cordwainer (shoemaker) and Newland’s Parish Clerk Richard Morgan (born 1793 Newland) and Sarah Bargum from nearby Redbrook.

Thomas was apprenticed as a wheelwright to his brother in law Edward Lear at Kingsteignton in Devon according to the 1851 census.

Thomas, now a wheelwright & carpenter, married another Morgan at Colford in 1873. She was Emma Morgan (born 1840) from Coleford, daughter of post-boy – William Morgan according to the marriage record.

They had at least four children - George (1874),
Bessie (1877), Mary (1884), Lily (1886), and an adopted son Edmund Morgan (born 1864).

Edmund married Staffordshire born Mary Ferneyhough at Newland in 1888 and followed in his father’s trade as a wheelwright. He settled in nearby Redbrook.

George was an apprenticed blacksmith in 1891. On the 1901 census he is a farrier, married to Sarah and living in Croydon, Surrey.

Tom

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by Roger Griffiths @, Saturday, August 29, 2009, 16:34 (5639 days ago) @ tomsand

Have you checked the IGI at your local library? Before 1837 you might get lucky.

I had Morgan relatives by marriage, resident Redbrook (The Incline), Newland, buried at All Saint's, Newland. I looked at IGI and the line jumped off the pages back to 15 something, initially Gloucestershire then Somerset.

Just a thought.

Roger

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by Nick Morgan @, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 17:23 (5638 days ago) @ Roger Griffiths

Roger

Thanks for reply will check as you suggested, do we have any connection at all

Nick Morgan

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by Roger Griffiths @, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 22:23 (5638 days ago) @ Nick Morgan

Hello Nick,

We may be distantly. Reason I wrote something is because you mentioned Newland, Redbrook and Coleford.

My greatgrandfather's wife was Susannah Carpenter c1788-1859. Her sister Mary 1793-1864 married a James Morgan at All Saints, Newland in 1811. James Morgan died 9Jan1874 aged 82 or 87 (Memorial stone in All Saints churchyard unclear). So, James Morgan would be the nearest connection. Out of curiosity, I looked at IGI and seemed to be able to track him back without difficulty to 1500's. Devon or Somerset. This is a long time ago so my memory is vague. Might be worth looking up Somerset IGI if following Morgan's are your Morgan's.

Found some more detail:-

1841 Census Tything Coleford/Newland/Incline(ie Redbrook)

James Morgan 50 Block Layer
Henry 15
Richard 10
Edward 5
Mary(Ann) 10
Harriet 5

1851 Census Newland, Tything Coleford, Lane End. No. 91.

James Morgan 64 Blocklayer Somerset
Mary 56 Newland
Richard 22 Farm Lab.
Mary Ann 20 Milliner
Edward 18 Farm Lab.
Harriett 16 At Home

James Morgan prob. bapt. 25Mar1790 Wedmore, Somerset. His parents Robert Morgan and Mary Clapp married 6May1789 Wedmore, Somerset

Best of Luck,

Roger

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by Nick Morgan @, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 17:18 (5638 days ago) @ tomsand

Hi Tom

Many thanks for this information yes you do have the correct family

My Grandfather {on my fathers side] is the George who came to Croydon and married Sarah Giddings from Ramsbury in Wiltshire.

They had 5 children, my father was one of twin boys Stanley George the other named Frank [1913]. My father married Rosa Mary Perry [1916] in 1938 i was born in 1939 and my sister in Josephine in 1940.

Are you related to me?

Nick

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by tomsand ⌂ @, Bream, Forest of Dean, Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:51 (5637 days ago) @ Nick Morgan

No I'm not related but do have an interest in Scowles school history. Two of Tom Morgan's children are on the school register for 1883 and 1886.
I have sent you an email with a more 'long winded' reply.
Tom

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