Bessie Dew Nash b1904 (General)

by andrewprice, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:02 (5503 days ago)

Bessie Dew Nash bap 4-Sep-1904 St Peter Clearwell
Daughter of Amy Dew Nash, no father recorded.
Oral family history passed down has recorded the father as Hulin first name not known. He apparently did a runner to Canada on finding out about the pregnancy.

We know that Bessie recorded her grand parents as her parents when marrying William Thomas Wood Jenkins 1-Aug-1927 St Peter, Clearwell.

Does anybody have any information as to which of the Hulin family could be the father ?

Paternity question Bessie NASH Stock farm

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:15 (5503 days ago) @ andrewprice

Oral family history passed down has recorded the father as Hulin first name not known. He apparently did a runner to Canada on finding out about the pregnancy.

You might get lucky and find a family that also has the same "oral" history passed down; sadly I suspect you may draw a blank. The "did a runner" may just be a story to protect.

1891 Clearwell
James Nash abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Nash abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amy D Nash abt 1884 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Maud Nash abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Fred Nash abt 1886 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Nash abt 1889 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England


NASH Bessie
[no father given] NASH
1904 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 60 477

1911 Stock Farm Clearwell http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1045737
James Nash 55
Emma Nash 51
Maud Nash 27
Fred Nash 24
James Nash 22
William Nash 19
Bessie Nash 7 G Daughter

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Bessie Dew Nash b1904

by Don Cameron @, Friday, January 15, 2010, 14:15 (5501 days ago) @ andrewprice

I have research our HULIN family quite extensively, and the only male HULIN that I know went to Canada, was Reginald Byron Harold HULIN. Unfortunately he migrated in 1885.

Sorry I can't be more helpful - if you do find out any information I'd be most interested.

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Don Cameron

Bessie Dew Nash b1904

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 22:29 (4103 days ago) @ Don Cameron

@Don -hi! Do you have any information on Benjamin Hulin b 1878 to James and Edith Ann? He seems a likely candidate concerning the paternity of my grandmother. The 1901 census shows he lives at Clearwell Meend - very close to Stock Farm! I can't find anything beyond the census information. Any leads you have would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Hilary

Bessie Dew Nash b1904

by Gordon @, Monday, January 18, 2010, 19:53 (5498 days ago) @ andrewprice

You could try the passenger lists for 1904 to Canada.
Gordon

Bessie Dew Nash b1904

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Wednesday, November 06, 2013, 01:15 (4111 days ago) @ Gordon

Bessie Nash was my grandmother.......This is news to me that her father did a runner! My understanding was that her father was a prosperous farmer in Clearwell - they lived at Tudor Farmhouse. She was the youngest of a fairly large brood.....I guess it's possible her grandparents raised her. Hmm....She married my grandfather, William Wood-Jenkins and was disowned by most of her family for marrying beneath her station; he was a miner. She passed away in 1999. If anyone has anymore information concerning her father, I would be really interested!
Hilary.

Amy Dew NASH - Constitutional Club Newport

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, November 06, 2013, 07:34 (4110 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

There is on Newport Past - a photograph of Constitutional Club Newport where Amy Dew NASH was working as a Barmaid on the 1911 census


http://www.newportpast.com/index.htm


(use the Search engine i.e. Constitutional Club)
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Gloucestershirebdm


http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx


Child Surname: NASH

Child Forename: Bessie

Father Surname: (Blank)

Mother Surname: NASH

Mother's Former Name: NASH

Year: 1904

District: Forest of Dean

Office: Monmouth, Coleford

Register: 60

Entry: 477


1911 Census, Constitutional Club Newport, Stow Hill

Amy Dew NASH - 24, Single - Barmaid, born Gloucestershire, Forest of Dean (listed with 6 other female staff, Florence Lily GOSS Manager)


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Joseph Frederick PRICE (Grocer) - her future husband, was residing at Chepstow, Newport - at the time of their marriage.

Public Members Tree (no-one lists Joseph on the 1911 census?)

1901 Census, Glos. Cirencester

PRICE

Charles - 52, General Labourer, born Marlborough, Wilts
Mary A - 48
Joseph - 17 - born Cirencester (Grocer's Assistant)
Harry - 14 - Apprentice Cabinet Maker

Joseph Price, 1911 Census in Chepstow ?

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, November 07, 2013, 01:41 (4110 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Hi M,
as you know I don't normally have full Ancestry access, but from their free-search screen which has been extra informative tonight (is there a free offer running ???), could this be your missing Joseph ?

" 1911 Wales Census - 22 Welsh Street, Chepstow, Monmouthshire

Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country
Ann Cater Mother 1840 71 Female Widowed None Ross Herefordshire England
Annie Grace Cater Daughter(Head) 1855 56 Female Single Refrestment Room Keeper Ross Herefordshire England
Maria Cater Daughter 1874 37 Female Single Assisting Above Ross Herefordshire England
Joseph Price Boarder 1879 32 Single Manager Grocery Store Cirencester"

So all fits nicely EXCEPT he's gained 5 years age ??
Perhaps, if it is our man, he's aspiring to be a similar age to Maria Cater especially in the eyes of her elderly mother ??

Hope this link works
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&...


Wotyereckon ?

Amy Dew NASH - Constitutional Club Newport

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 14:37 (4106 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

MPGriffiths -thanks for posting this....interesting to know Amy met Joseph in Newport -having had a child out of wedlock stigmatized a woman, but I guess being so far (in those days) form Clearwell she was able to make a new life for herself. I'm curious to know if my grandmother was recognized as Amy's daughter while she was growing up. It seems Andrew Price knew of my grandmother in relationship to his grandmother (Amy) and there was an oral history passed down.

James Nash Obituary etc, from Nash Family History website

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, November 07, 2013, 02:40 (4110 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

Hi Hilary,
searching tinternet gives a few tantalising hits to a "Nash Family History" website, albeit one which doesn't allow easy opening ?. I do hope you've seen it and hopefully with full access compared to my snippets ?

One of that site's contributors is Andrew Price, presumably the originator of this thread. He supplies this Obituary to Amy's father James Nash, I sincerely hope he won't mind me re-posting:

The Obituary of James Dew Nash...born about 1856, died May 14, 1927.
Submitted by his great-grandson, Andrew Price.

THE LATE MR. JAMES DEW NASH

A typical son of old established Forest family was buried in Clearwell Cemetery on Wednesday last week. James Dew Nash. He was the eldest son of the late Mr. George Nash of Sling, (brother of John and William Nash, who were thoroughly well known throught the Forest). He had lived four years over the "alloted span". He was 73 years, was exceedingly active and youthful.

Two virtues stand out in his life - he was practically immune from worry - he refused to worry - and he preferred to enlarge upon his own shortcomings rather than discuss those of other people.

He was shrewd and had long vision, and his sound judgement was often sought for. He never craved the limelight of publicity, but any good cause could be assured of his practical assistance.

During the last quarter of a century he turned his attention to farming, and for 10 years tenanted Stock Farm at Clearwell, and for the past 8 or 10 years, Drybrook Farm.

He had been confined to the house since Christmas, and an affected heart gradually weakened down it's victim, and in spite of the constant medical attention of Dr. O'Driscoll he was forced to take to his bed in May, and bore what proved to be his last illness with remarkable fortitude, passing quietly away on May 14th, leaving a widow and six grown up sons and daughters. The funeral was attended by a very large number of people, drawn from all ranks, who wished to manifest their respect and sympathy. Previous from starting from the house "Rock of Ages" was sung by those gathered around the coffin. the bearers were: Messers H. Cecil, M. Hoare, Wm. Baker, and side-bearers: Messrs Fred Jones, Rd Jones, Jno Jones, H. Teague, (Trowgreen), H. Cook, and F. Williams.

The breastplate of the polished elm coffin was inscribed, "James Dew Nash, died 14th May, aged 74 years."

The principal mourners were: Fred, Jim, Will (sons). Mrs. Bessie Wintle, Mrs. Maud Howells, Mrs. Joe Price (daughters). Geo, and Milson Nash (brothers). Mrs. Jas. Nash and Mrs. Rose Kear (sisters). Bessie Nash, Jack Nash and Fred Nash (grandchildren). Mr. Geo. Howells, Mr. S. Wintle (sons in law). James Nash (brother in law). Mrs. Wm. Nash (sister in law). Mrs. May Elsmore, Mrs. May Wintle (nieces).

A large quantity of beautiful wreaths were brought to the house, in token of respect and friendship. the principal ones were: In loving memory of my dear husband from his loving wife. In loving memory from Bessie and Will Drybrook Farm. In loving memory from Jim and Eugenie and Isabel, Burnt House, Sling. In loving memory of dear Dad from Florrie, Fred and grandchildren Milkwall. In affectionate rememberance from Jim, and Elsie, Whitecroft Farm. In loving memory of Uncle Jim, from May and Howard, Ellwood. In loving memory of Uncle Jim, from Jim and May, Clements End, Green. In loving memory from his sister Rose and Mill, Milkwall. In affectionate rememberance of dear Dad from his daughter Maud and George. In loving memory of dear Dad from his daughter Bessie, Sydney and family, Blakeney. In loving memory of dear Dad, from Amy and Joe, Chepstow. From Dr. O'Driscoll. Mr. Stephens and family, Brook Farm. Grandchildren at Chepstow, Cleve and Punch. Grandchildren, Girlie and Jim, White Croft. Bill and Jack Grandchildren, Drybrook. Mr. J. Nash and Family, Ellwood Farm. Mrs. Nash and Family, Dean Pool, George V. and Mrs. Mountjoy. Mr. and Mrs. J. Miles, Clearwell. Mr. and Mrs. Cecil, 'Clays' sling. Mr. Wood Jenkins and family, Lane End. Mr. and Mrs. Harry Baker, Drybrook. Mr. and Mrs. Harry Morgan, Sling. Mrs. Mary Ann Elsmore, Sling. Mr. and Mrs. Harry Pritchard and Harold, Ellwood. Mr. and Mrs. w. A. Hoare, Holly Lane, Ellwood. Miss Kitty Meek. Mr. and Mrs. Fred Brooks, Drybrook. Mrs. and Mrs. C. Howrd, Drybrook. Mr. and Mrs. O. Hoare, Drybrook. Mr. and Mrs. Chas. Childs, March Lane. Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Hulin, Ellwood. Mr. and Mrs. Beard, Drybrook, Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Jones, Drybrook. Mr. and Mrs. Howard, Clearwell Meend. Mr. and Mrs. Teague, Drybrook.

The Rev. Percy Clarke officiated at the graveside, and as the remains were committed to the earth it was realised that the district was poorer because James Dew Nash had passed to higher service.

Clearly James was a much admired and highly regarded gentleman.

It's of interest that among the many mourners are "Mr & Mrs Sydney HULIN of Ellwood", a possible "link" to the alleged father of Amy Dew Nash, perhaps ???.

http://87.248.112.8/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=nash+hulin+family+history+clearwell&...

Try as I might I cannot access this site except via individual cached pages such as this, I hope others have more success.

Other search engine hits off this website, found by searching "Nash family history Clearwell" include these cached pages, please advise if the links don't work for you and I'll post the articles in full.

Re Jeremiah Nash b1844, wife Charlotte nee Miles, and their lives in Clearwell and later in Canada.
http://87.248.112.8/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=nash+family+history+clearwell&ty...

Re Mollie NASH b1910, youngest child of Robert Hawker NASH b1864 Liswerry Monmouthshire, and Jessie RAWSTHORNE.
http://87.248.112.8/search/srpcache?ei=UTF8&p=nash+hulin+family+history+clearwell&a...

Stock Farm Clearwell, now Tudor Farmhouse Hotel

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, November 07, 2013, 13:57 (4109 days ago) @ Jefff

As you know the Nash family lived for some years at Stock Farm, Clearwell. I don't know any detail but archeological excavations were performed there and are documented by H. Atkinson in Volume 2, Page 28 of the FoD Local History Society's Journal the "New Regard".
Some Journal editions may be read in FoD Public libraries eg Cinderford, or individual article reprints are available from the Society.
http://79.170.40.163/forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/LHSpublications.html
http://79.170.40.163/forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/New_Regard_Index_(Combined)_vols_1-27.xls


"Most of the houses that formed Clearwell village in 1608 were replaced by plain stone cottages in the late 18th century and the 19th, but several older farmhouses survive. At Stank Farm, north of Lower Cross, a small 17th-century house with a prominent central porch was extended to the north in the 19th century. The former Stock Farm (in 1992 comprising Tudor Cottage and Tudor Farmhouse Hotel) in the east street is an L-shaped 17th-century house with an 18th-century wing added on the east."

From: 'Newland', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 195-231.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23260
Date accessed: 07 November 2013.


Stock Farm is clearly marked near the top of this 1880 Map of the Clearwell area.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/image.aspx?compid=23260&filename=fig08.gif&pub...

James Nash Obituary etc, from Nash Family History website

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Friday, November 08, 2013, 16:59 (4108 days ago) @ Jefff

Jeff, that was most generous of you to post this information......I am very grateful. This gives me a lot to work with. The Hulins are an interesting lead!

"Mr and Mrs Sidney Hulin of Ellwood" ??

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Friday, November 08, 2013, 18:03 (4108 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

Hi Hilary, you're most welcome. Hopefully you could read the other Nash FH site links too, careful websearching may find more such "cached" pages.

There are quite a few FoD PRs for Sydney Hulins, mostly in the Clearwell Parish area it seems, although I think this must be the aforementioned "Hulins of Ellwood".

Record_ID: 99329
Entry_Number: 232
Year: 1941
Month: Nov
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: HULIN
Grooms_Forenames: Sidney Frank
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Soldier R.A.
Grooms_Residence: Bromley Ellwood nr Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hulin
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Sidney James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Mason (retired)
Brides_Surname: MATTHEWS
Brides_Forenames: Beatrix Winifred
Brides_Age: 27
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: 44 Gloucester Road Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Matthews
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Archibald
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Engineer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Percy James Hulin
Witness_2: Ivy Doreen Matthews
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Lawrence V. Wraith Vicar of Coleford
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Bride's Father Deceased
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93/1 IN 1/23
Page_Number: 116
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex_Groom: H450
Soundex_Bride: M320

Record_ID: 147614
Entry_Number: 1130
Year: 1916
Month: Nov
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: HULIN
Child_Forenames: Sidney Frank
Fathers_Forenames: Sidney James
Mothers_Forenames: Harriet
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ellwood
Occupation: Mason
Officiating_Minister: DJ Banham (Vicar)
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 142
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex: H450

Ancestry Death Index carries a record of a Sidney Frank Hulin passing away in 2003, but I cannot tell where this is in the UK.

Record_ID: 69356
Entry_Number: 483
Year: 1877
Month: Feb
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: HULIN
Child_Forenames: Sidney James
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Edith Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell Meend
Occupation: Mason
Officiating_Minister: H L Perry Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 61
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: H450

Record_ID: 243299
Entry_Number: 551
Year: 1943
Month: Jul
Day: 27
Surname: HULIN
Forenames: Sydney James
Residence: 3 Albert Road Coleford
Age_at_death: 67
Officiating_Minister: S.H.Bennett Vicar of St.Briavels
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/8
Page_No: 69
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: H450

etc

"Mr and Mrs Sidney Hulin of Ellwood" ??

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Friday, November 08, 2013, 19:21 (4108 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks Jeff.....Sidney Frank Hulin it seems had a daughter - Kay Hulin b 1945. (If it is the right Hulin....)

"Mr and Mrs Sidney Hulin of Ellwood" ??

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Friday, November 08, 2013, 20:37 (4108 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

Which, as I'm sure you've spotted, nicely links with the Jenkins, my it's a small world !?

Altho I suspect this is a different branch than yours, of course.

From FreeBMD

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1967 (53%)
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HULIN KAY F JENKINS SODBURY 7B 1642
JENKINS GRAHAM D HULIN SODBURY 7B 1642

and internet searching shows both are on this century's electoral roll and still in the Bristol area....

atb J

"Mr and Mrs Sidney Hulin of Ellwood" ??

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Friday, November 08, 2013, 22:02 (4108 days ago) @ Jefff

That's interesting, if not a little ironic!

Benjamin Hulin

by HilaryJenkins @, Baltimore, USA, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 17:02 (4103 days ago) @ Jefff

@ Jeff, after more research on the Hulins, it seems of three brothers living in Clearwell - Benjamin is the most likely father. His older brothers - Sidney and Earnest were married before 1904 when Bessie Dew Nash was born and were both new fathers each having children in 1901. There was another brother, but he died as an infant. I can't find anything on Benjamin, other than a 1901 Census that puts him living in 103 Clearwell Meend which is VERY close to Stock Farm. Maybe he did do a runner after finding out Amy was pregnant with his child!
If anyone can help me piece this puzzle together I'd be most grateful....
Hilary

Benjamin Hulin still in Clearwell Meend in 1911 WALES Census

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 02:34 (4103 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

Hi Hilary,
how interesting !

For reasons unknown to me this week I can get free access to the 1911 WALES Census (but no other bar the usual 1881 !?) on Ancestry even tho I'm not currently subscribed. This is very handy as on the later Census's many West Dean households in the Coleford, Lydbrook etc area were considered to be "Wales" (as Monmouth, just across the border, was the nearest large town so registration centre, rather than Westbury On Severn say which traditionally governed the eastern Forest. This website is a great guide to these local admin Districts and how their names/boundaries changed over the years.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/monmouth.html

Indeed, inmy experience some FH Census search-engines rather-annoyingly list Wales Census results separately/way-after the England ones, even though many of the England ones might be much farther away...?. Saying that, Ancestry seems to be improving in this respect.

Anyhow, I think this is Benjamin in 1911 Census, if you can't access it yourself I have downloaded the form image and will happily send to you if you like. Perhaps Benjamin didn't like being past 30 years old...?

1911 Wales Census, a four room household at Clearwell Meend

Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country
James Hulin Head 1836 75 Male Widowed Builder St Briavels Gloucestershire England
Benjamin Hulin Son 1881 30 Male Single Stone Labourer At Quary Sling Coleford Gloucestershire England
Elizabeth Hulin Daughter 1886 25 Female Single Housekeeper At Home Sling Coleford Gloucestershire England

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&...

PS re your query to Don Cameron - he's not accessed the forum for several months now, it may be worth you sending him a direct email message straight into his computer's inbox by clicking his blue username on one of his posts.

Benjamin HULIN (Serious Charge 30 May 1903)

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 07:40 (4102 days ago) @ Jefff

Ancestry Probate

HULIN Benjamin Thomas of Clearwell Meend West Dean Gloucestershire died 8 June 1940 at the Royal Infirmary Gloucester. Adminstration (with Will) Gloucester 15 August to Sydney James HULIN retired mason and Ethel Emily LEWIS (wife of Tom LEWIS) Effects £1,001 17s 4d


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British Newspapers on Line - by searching for Benjamin HULIN a number of articles are available inc (just a brief outline, as you have to subscribe - one free - to read the article in full…

Saturday 30 May 1903 - Gloucester Citizen

The Serious Charge against a Coleford Insurance Agent


…… property of Benjamin Ilulin son of James Ilulin, as Mason the same place…..

After hearing the evidence of Emma NASH** and Emma JENKINS

(Emma NASH - says on Genesreunited, Wife of William NASH) -


and


Manchester Unity Oddfellow at Sling Nr Coleford


…. property Benjamin HULIN son of James HULIN, Mason….. from the effects of…… Friday 29 May 1903


On 25 May the sum of £1.7s in money the property of Benjamin HULIN

(Genesreunited, says it was BOSWORTH was surprised in bedroom HULIUS residence, and after flinging the young man the made good his escape…..)


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Don't belong to Genesreunited - but there appears to be a bit more information on the website

Cheltenham Chronicle 30 May 1903

HULIN, Albert HOARE and William EVANS who all de…s…ced to seeing the prisoner the neighbourhood on the evening of the robbery and PS and PC Wiltshire arrested the accused, the prisoner elected give evidence, denied that he was anywhere near….


and on Genesreunited - (Search British Newspaper Archive)

Gloucester Citizen - 11 April 1923

Coleford

Clearwell, and Benjamin HULING, Sling were fined ss each for allowing their respective horses to stray highways. The facts were stated by PC and 8 HAMBLIN.

Benjamin HULIN (Serious Charge 30 May 1903)

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 17:04 (4102 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Source: Cheltenham Chronicle Sat 30 May 1903

THE SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST A COLEFORD INSURANCE AGENT
At a special session held at Coleford on Thursday, before Messrs. T. T. Taylor and S. J. Thomas, Charles Bosworth, an insurance agent, of Whitecliff, was again brought up in custody charged by P. S. Price with breaking into a dwelling house at Sling and stealing £1 15s. 9d, in money, the property of Benjamin Hulin, son of James Hulin, a mason, of the same place.- After hearing the evidence of James Nash, Emma Jenkins, Benjamin Hulin, Elizabeth Hulin, Albert Hoare, and William Evans, who all deposed to seeing the prisoner in the neighbourhood on the evening of the robbery, and P. S. Price and P. C. Wiltshire, who arrested the accused, the prisoner elected to give evidence. He denied that he was anywhere near Hulin’s house that day. Benjamin Hulin (re-called) said he was certain prisoner was the man whom he saw in the bedroom and who forced him on the bed and tried to stifle him with the bedclothes. He knew prisoner very well indeed, as he went and took work which witness was compelled to give up owing to ill health.- The Chairman said prisoner would be committed to take his trial at the forthcoming Gloucestershire Assizes. He would be allowed bail in the sum of £50 and two sureties of £25 each.

The Gloucester Citizen, published on 24 June 1903, reported on the Gloucester Trinity Quarter Sessions. James Bosworth was charged with stealing £1 15s 9d, the monies of Benjamin and Elizabeth Hulin, of Sling. The jury, after a short deliberation, found him guilty, and he was sentenced to three months hard labour.

HULIN/BOSWORTH (Serious Charge 30 May 1903)

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 18:13 (4102 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

The article mentions Charles BOSWORTH, but finishes off with James BOSWORTH of Whitecliff.

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1911 Census, Whitecliff, Nr Coleford

BOZWORTH

James age 47 - married 25 years - two children born alive, 2 living - Gas Works Worker, Gas Works, born Gloucestershire, Arlingham
Rosa - 48 - housewife, born Coleford
William - 17 - single - Grocer Assistant, born Coleford

HULIN/BOSWORTH (Serious Charge 30 May 1903)

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 21:39 (4102 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

'The article mentions Charles BOSWORTH, but finishes off with James BOSWORTH of Whitecliff.

?'
The first article, mentioning Charles Bosworth, was sourced from the Cheltenham Chronicle dated 30 May 1903.

The second article mentioning James Bosworth, was sourced from the Gloucester Citizen dated 24 June 1903.

HULIN/BOSWORTH (Serious Charge 30 May 1903)

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Thursday, November 14, 2013, 22:04 (4102 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Source: Gloucester Citizen Date: Friday 29 May 1903

THE CHARGE AGAINST A COLEFORD INSURANCE AGENT.

ACCUSED COMMITTED FOR TRIAL

At a special sitting of the Coleford Police-court on Thursday-before Messrs T. T. Taylor and S. J. Thomas-James Bosworth, an insurance agent, of Whitecliff near Coleford etc...

Just goes to prove what we have always said....back up your information from different sources!

Ben Hulin, "Silly SheepOwner"

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, December 26, 2013, 19:29 (4060 days ago) @ HilaryJenkins

Here's another mention of Ben HULIN of Ellwood, plus many other local names including M.E and Reuben NASH, as reported by the Cardiff Weekly Mail of 15th October 1910.

"SILLY" SHEEPOWNERS.
PROSECUTION AT COLEFORD FOR BREACH OF BYE-LAWS.
There was again a large number of sheep-owners summoned at Coleford Court for failing to deliver up "Form C," contrary to the regulation of the Board of Agriculture, respecting the sheep-dipping orders, and the following fines were inflicted;— John Thomas, Edenwall Farm, 27s.; Hiram Hale and Alfred Hale colliers, Broadwell, 17s. each; Benjamin Brown, colliery proprietor, Broadwell, 17s.; Charles Morris, farmer. Poolway. 17s.; Joseph Parry, farmer, Broadwell, 17s.; William Cullis, masor, Broad well, 17a; Milson Hfirblin. colliery proprietor. Mile End, 11s.; William Powles, collier, Milkwall, 17s.; Hubert Hawkins, farmer, Broadwell, 17s.; James Fox, farmer, Clearwell, 18s.; Job Nash, collier, Ellwood, and Howard Mansell, collier, of the same place, 17s. each; M. E. Nash, farmer. Ellwood, 19s.; John Prosser, farmer, Tan House. Newland, 18s.; Rowland Hill, labourer, Sling. 19s.; Thomas H. Lacey, insurance agent, Milkwall, 17s.; William J. Roberts., The Rocks, Clearwell, 18s.; William Roberts. of the same place, 17s.; Frank Smith, farmer, Tufthorn, 18s.; Thomas Haile, farmer, Crossways, 17s.; James Childs, Beeches Farm, Berry Hill. 17s.; Felix Powell, colliery proprietor, Berry Hill, 18s.; Ben Hulin. mason, Sling, 17s.; Reuben Nash, farmer, Ellwood, 18s.; and Albert Jones, collier. Broadwell, 18s. The Chairman said it was very silly_on the part of the defendants, as they did not read their notices. They had all rendered themselves liable to a £20 penalty each. The bench would have to act more severely in future.

http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3380518/ART205/hulin%20briavels

James Nash Obituary etc, from Nash Family History website

by man2 @, Newport Pagnell, Bucks, Monday, November 14, 2016, 17:00 (3006 days ago) @ Jefff

Having been trying to find my ancestors elsewhere, I have only now returned to the FoD website and noticed this posting.

I first want to thank Jeff for the obituary - it is this sort of thing that adds colour to our ancestors lives (and deaths!). However, I would like to point out one error. James Nash was not the eldest son of George Nash of Sling. Thomas Nash, my great grandfather born 1844, was the eldest. He was the only son of George Nash and Ann Long, married in Newland in 1842. I do not know what happened to Ann but she seems to have disappeared so in the 1851 census Thomas is with his grandmother, Sarah Carlisle in Tidenham. George then married Sarah Drew in 1861, just a few weeks before the census which showed that they had three children, including James, before they were married. Of course, in the absence of any information about Ann, it is possible that the marriage was bigamous.

Mike

James Nash Obituary etc, from Nash Family History website

by Matthewtanash, Friday, March 09, 2018, 05:50 (2526 days ago) @ man2

Just now seeing these posts. That Yahoo group (Nash Families of the Forest of Dean) can be found at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nash_fod/info

James Nash Obituary etc, from Nash Family History website

by Matthewtanash, Friday, March 09, 2018, 05:51 (2526 days ago) @ Jefff

Just now seeing these posts. Our Yahoo group (Nash Families of the Forest of Dean) can be found at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nash_fod/info

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