by unknown, (5804 days ago)
My grandmother Alice Cooper was born 26th november 1890. She had 5 sisters born between 1890 and 1900. She married Samuel Bennett in 1912 in the baptist chapel, Cinderford. Her father was George Cooper and mother Mary Ann. Any news about these families greatly appreciated.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5804 days ago) @ unknown
Name: Alice Cooper
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 252
1891
George Cooper abt 1867 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1871 , Cinderford Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Cooper abt 1890 , Cinderford Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
1901
George Cooper abt 1867 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
1901
Thomas Jordan abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Jordan abt 1852 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Cooper abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Niece East Dean, Gloucestershire
1911 4 Lower Viaduct Terrace Crumlin
Noah Jones 50
Sarah Ann Jones 48
Albert Jones 17
Prichard Jones 17
May Jones 11
William Jones 7
Ivor Jones 3
COOPER GEORGE M 1867 44 Pontypool Monmouthshire born Cinderford Widowed
1911
JORDAN THOMAS M 1847 64 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
JORDAN SARAH ANN F 1852 59 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
COOPER ALICE F 1891 20 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
Name: Alice Cooper
Name: Samuel Bennett
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Bennett
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 634
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by unknown, (5802 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks. I knew she had been taken in by her Aunt and Uncle as her mother died in childbirth of her last sister about 1898. I had not seen the 1911 census and I see she is still with them. I think she married in 1912. Her mother was Mary Ann Holder who married George Cooper in 1888. She had 5 sisters but I haven't found them on a census.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5802 days ago) @ unknown
there are 50 or so female COOPERS born in Westbury on Severn registration district between 1890 and 1900
these might be siblings to Alice ( in 1901 census)
Edith Cooper abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Niece Birmingham, Warwickshire
Irene Cooper abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Florence Coopbn
[Florence Cooper] abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Boarder East Dean, Gloucestershire living next to George COOPER (widow)
Name: Mary Ann Cooper
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 30
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 193
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by unknown, (5802 days ago) @ slowhands
Edith and Florence are two of the sisters. I think there was a Beatrice a Mabel or May and a tugelia. Thanks for the details on Mary Ann.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5801 days ago) @ unknown
Name: Alice Cooper
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 252
Name: Edith Annie Cooper
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 245
Name: Florence Elizabeth Cooper
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 253
Name: Mary Tugela Cooper
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 314
Name: Thyrza Beatrice Cooper ??
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 241
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by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5801 days ago) @ slowhands
Name: Mary Tugela Cooper
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 314
Name: Mary Tugela Bevan
Birth Date: 25 May 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: 1983
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1751
South Wales Bevan / Cooper link perhaps ?
Name: Mary T J Cooper
Spouse : Gilbert E A Bevan
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1920
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration county (inferred): Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 186
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Name: Gilbert Ernest A Bevan
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 309
1901
Thomas Bevan abt 1867 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Bevan abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Gertrude A Bevan abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas A Bevan abt 1892 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Minnie Bevan abt 1895 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
William C Bevan abt 1895 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Victoria E Bevan abt 1898 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Gilbert E A Bevan abt 1900 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Name: Gilbert Ernest A Bevan
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 2039
Name: Gilbert E A Bevan
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1925
Registration district: Westbury S
Registration county: Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 424
Name: Marion K Bevan
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1930
Registration district: Westbury S
Registration county: Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 380
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by unknown, (5801 days ago) @ slowhands
I always thought that Florrie was the youngest sister but that could be because maybe Tugela could have died earlier and left Florrie as the youngest surviving sister. The first Tugela could be a possible but I don't feel that Bevan is part of the family. Throughout Alice's life I never met Tugela and my father never mentioned her as an aunt so she must have moved very far away or died. I'm sure if tugela had been living in FOD until 1983 I would have met her. I used to stay a lot with florrie in Cinderford and Alice lived with us until she died at 93 and neither of them mentioned seeing Tugela. Sorry if this is rambling but this is my reasoning.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5801 days ago) @ unknown
I think this is her :-)
with a later marriage in Bedwelty, followed by life in Gloucester and the Forest (?)
1871 Lydbrook
Richard Jones 50
Elizabeth Jones 45
Richard Jones 20
Edwin Jones 18
Noah Jones 11 Moorwood ( Lydbrook/Ruardean )
Fanny Jones 13
David Jones 6
Isacc Jones 4
1891
Noah Jones abt 1862 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Sarah A Jones abt 1870 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
1901
Noah Jones abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Sarah A Jones abt 1872 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Albert E Jones abt 1892 Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Richard J Jones abt 1894 Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Mary J Cooper abt 1900 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Adopted Daughter Abercarn, Monmouthshire
1911
JONES NOAH M 1861 50 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES SARAH ANN F 1863 48 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES ALBERT M 1892 19 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES IVOR M 1908 3 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES MAY F 1900 11 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES RICHARD M 1894 17 Pontypool Monmouthshire
JONES WILLIAM M 1904 7 Pontypool Monmouthshire
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by unknown, (5801 days ago) @ slowhands
Are you saying that Mary Tugela Cooper was born in 1900 as Cooper, was adopted by 1901 census by Noah and Sarah Jones and then later married a Bevan in Bedwelty?
Where is she in 1911 census? She has left the Jones family and is not in Pontypool. She is only 11 years of age. Things happen.
Amazing, thanks.
by unknown, (5391 days ago) @ slowhands
I am looking for the 6 Cooper girls born between 1890 and 1900 in Cinderford whose parents were George Cooper (1866) and Mary Ann (nee Holder, 1870). I have the first two, Alice (1890) and Edith Annie (1892), then I am stuck for the next, then I have Thyrza Beatrice (1896), Florence Elizabeth (1898) and Mary Tugela (1900). The 1891 census only shows Alice and by the 1901 census their mother had died and the girls had all been scattered in the locality. Have nothing on the 1894 child and haven't found Thyrza Beatrice or Mary Tugela's guardians. Can anyone help?
by m p griffiths, (5391 days ago) @ unknown
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1901 Census, Monmouthshire, Abercan
Noah JONES - 40 - born Glos. Ruardean
Sarah A JONES - 29 - born ditto
Albert E JONES - 9 - born Monmouthshire, Mynyddyslwyn
Richard J JONES - 7 - ditto
Mary J COOPER - 1 - adopted daughter - born Glos. Cinderford
interesting 1911 census.......
at 4 Lower Viaduct Terrace, Crumlin, Near Newport, Monmouthshire
JONES
Noah - married, 50, Miner, Hewer, born Lydbrook, Glos
Sarah Ann JONES - married for 20 years, age 48 - born Glos. Ruardean
Albert JONES - - single age 19, Miner Hewer, born Mon, Newbridge
Richard JONES - single age 17 - Miner, Hewer, born Mon. Newbridge
May JONES - daughter - age 11 - school. born Glos. Cinderford
Willliam JONES - son - age 7 - born Mon. Crumlin
Ivor JONES - son - age 3 - born Mon. Crumlin
George COOPER - widower, age 44, Miner, Hewer, Born Glos. Cinderford
1901 Census, Cinderford
George COOPER widower, age 34 - born Cinderford
and next door.......
Transcribed as COOPBN
William WHEREDOTH (Meredith) - age 32 - all born Cinderford
Alice - 27
Thomas - 4
Henry - 3
Florence COOPBN (COOPER) boarder - age 3
by unknown, (5391 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Thank you. it was good to see that Noah Jones took in Mary's father in the end.
by unknown, (5801 days ago) @ slowhands
WOW! but not all right. Alice, Edith and Florence I think are correct but not Beatrice and Tugela. My understanding of it is that the daughters were all born between about 1890 and 1900. Alice was the eldest and Florrie was the youngest. I understood that Mary Ann, the mother, died in childbirth of Florrie which is why Alice, in the 1901 census, was living with her Uncle and Aunt Thomas and Sarah jordan. The other sisters were known as Beatrice, Tugela and Mabel(May) so these were probably their first names. This is all from memory and might not be completely accurate but I don't think Mary Ann lived to see the 1901 census. Thanks for all the info you have given me. I need to digest it all now.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5801 days ago) @ unknown
I understood that Mary Ann, the mother, died in childbirth of Florrie
It "looks" like the death was around the time of the birth of Mary Tugela
birth 25 May 1900 ?
Name: Mary Tugela Cooper
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 314
death of mother ?
Name: Mary Ann Cooper
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 30
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 193
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