William and Fanny Morgan, 1880s, East Dean (General)
Would be interested to know if anybody on the site has connections to, or knows anything about, the WILLDAY, MORGAN or HOPE families.
My 4xgreat-grandparents George Willday b.c.1810 (named Thomas George on death cert. and burial record, but named George in census, marriage records etc) and Elizabeth Willday nee Hunter b.1810 Colchester had settled at Cinderford Jump (?), East Dean by the time of the 1871 census. He was an accountant and I have spotted both burial records amongst the data on this site.
I have found out that they had 3 children - Edward, David and Ann - of which, Ann married a George Underhill HOPE in 1855. She died in 1858 having produced a daughter Fanny HOPE (b.1856, Claines, Worcestershire) who married at Cinderford in 1876 to William MORGAN (b.1856 East Dean). They had two children, both born at East Dean - a son William in 1876 and a daughter Elizabeth in 1878. Unfortunately I cannot trace any of the four after the 1881 census was taken.
I would be really interested to know if anybody using this site knows anything more about the Morgans. William was a collier when he got married, an engineer when the children were born and an "engine fitter at works" in 1881, when the family's address was given as St. John's, East Dean. I am not certain if they stayed in the area or not but am trying to find out.
Kate Hurst
Cinderford Tump- William & Fanny MORGAN
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 06:39 (5417 days ago) @ KateHurst25
Cinderford Jump (?),
sure that will be Cinderford Tump, the area of St John Church Cinderford today
Year: 1876
Month: Apr
Day: 30
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Morgan
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Engine-Driver
Brides_Surname: HOPE
Brides_Forenames: Fanny
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hope
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George Underhill
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Butcher
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William James
Witness_2: Emma Mortimer
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: G.A. Allan Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 125
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns
1881
William Morgan abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Morgan abt 1857 Worcestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Morgan abt 1876 Worcestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Year 1881
Month Jun
Day 19
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames Thomas George
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Fanny
Mothers Surname
Residence Ruspidge Cinderford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born May 21 1881
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/2
Page Number 186
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Johns
Year 1883
Month Sep
Day 9
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames Rebecca
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Fanny
Mothers Surname
Residence Ruspidge Cinderford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Aug 17 1880 [? 1883]
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/2
Page Number 196
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Johns
Name: Rebecca Morgan
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 247
Year 1886
Month Feb
Day 7
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames Ann Jane
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Fanny
Mothers Surname
Residence Ruspidge Cinderford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Dec 30 1885
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/2
Page Number 207
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Johns
Year 1888
Month Oct
Day 7
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames Fanny
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Fanny
Mothers Surname
Residence Ruspidge Cinderford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Sep 8 1888
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/2
Page Number 219
Parish Chapel Cinderford St Johns
I suspect they go to the States - caution there may be other families with similar sets of names
1890 US census destroyed
1900 Luzerne, Pennsylvania
William Morgan
Fanny Morgan
Rebecca Morgan
Fanny Morgan
Thomas G Morgan
1910
William R Morgan city, Luzerne, Pennsylvania abt 1856 (English)
Fanny Morgan city, Luzerne, Pennsylvania abt 1857 (English)
Rebecca Morgan 27 race location Luzerne, Wilkes Barre (English)
Thomas G Morgan 30 race location Luzerne, Wilkes (English)
1920
William R Morgan name city, Luzerne, Pennsylvania abt 1856 location race relation (English)
Fenie Morgan name city, Luzerne, Pennsylvania abt 1857 location race relation (English)
Rebecca Morgan city, Luzerne, Pennsylvania abt 1884 location race relation (English)
another FoD connection to Luzerne Co , Penn.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=9860
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
To expand on Slowhands comment. I have passed through Luzerne Co many times. It has many coal mines and a topography similar to FOD. A natural spot for a Forester to go.
Dewey
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
Thank you both so much - it always seems to be the way, when you look so hard in the place where you expect someone to be that they turn out to be somewhere else all together.
Hopefully, I will be able to see whether or not the Morgans turn up on any passenger lists. I know there are some on Find My Past from 1890 onwards so I may just be in luck.
Kate
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
From the information on the 1900 census, it appears that they immigrated in 1888 or 1889 and William may have come ahead of the rest of the family.
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 16:55 (5417 days ago) @ Dewey
Hi Dewey
Can you confirm the 1900 census family group please - my entry is based on interpretation rather than "seeing" the census image. however the ages and names look good :-)
Thanks
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
Slowhands,
I am looking at a scan of the original census page.
For 1900 it has a family of Wiiliam R, 44
Fanny 43
Thomas 19
Ann J 14
Fanny 11
Frank 7
Imma 4
All born in England except Frank and Imma born in PA
Is that the right family?
If so tomorrow with more time I will send more details.
By the way there are 29 William Morgans in Luzerne County.
Dewey
Luzerne Co, Pennsylvania
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 22:51 (5417 days ago) @ Dewey
Dewey
the family seems a good match, so far !
For 1900
Wiiliam R, 44 - 1856 -> OK for William
Fanny 43 -> 1857 -> OK for Fanny
Thomas 19 -> 1881 OK forThomas George
Ann J 14 -> 1886 OK for Ann Jane
Fanny 11 -> 1888 OK for Fanny
Frank 7
Imma 4
my guess is Rebecca 1883 is living nearby
Thanks
S
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Fanny Morgan
by rookancestrybest , United Kingdom, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 21:17 (5417 days ago) @ Dewey
There was a Fanny Morgan who was somehow related to me but I haven't found out how. I thought this Fanny Morgan would not be a relative as another Morgan who I presumed might have been her brother went to a college at Oxford and I think probably ended up as a teacher. However my mother said some of the Morgans went to the USA. Fanny Morgan could equally be an in-law as much as a blood relative as I cannot find the connection despite researching several leads. Other members of the family were in upstate New York and Pennyslvania so I am wondering whether this might be the right Fanny Morgan after all. More information on her would be valued.