RICHARD TYNDALL - b 1789 Dursley (General)

by suesteer, Monday, July 19, 2010, 12:32 (5247 days ago)

Hello, I am new to this forum.

My Grandmother's (maternal) maiden name was Tyndall. She and her sister (my great-aunt) told me when I was little that we were descendants of the family of William the translator.

Unfortunately, they are both dead and any family knowledge died with them. I have just started looking at my family history and do know that my great-grandfather, was a London City Missionary. In the LCM magazine of 1922 there is an obituary to him saying that he was indeed a descendant of William Tyndale and that he was the grandson of a baptist of a Baptist minister.

My great-grandfather was Richard Tyndall, born Clerkenwell, London 1855 and he died in Woolwich, London 1922, aged 67.

I wonder if my great-great-great grandfather was Richard Tyndall, born in Dursley 1789 who preached at the Baptist church in Cinderford.

I would appreciate anyone who knows about this Richard Tyndall, his ancestors and descendants.

Many thanks

Sue Steer

Richard TYNDALL - b 1789 Dursley lived Littledean Hill

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, July 19, 2010, 14:22 (5247 days ago) @ suesteer

prior thread

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=8678

WILLIAM TYNDALL
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 DEC 1789 Cam, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: THOS. TYNDALL
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth
or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C026131 1599 - 1812 0417132 Film 6911626 Film
Sheet: 00


and part extracted from last note

1861
Richard Tyndall abt 1789 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Grocer
Sarah Tyndall abt 1793 Coaley, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Aquila Tyndall abt 1819 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
Richard Tyndall abt 1789 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Tyndall abt 1793 Coaley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Arguila Tyndall abt 1818 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Tyndall abt 1831 Bedlington, Durham, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Ebenezer Tyndall abt 1835 Dursby, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Priscilla Tyndall abt 1838 Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
John Tyndall abt 1847 London, England Visitor Little Dean, Gloucestershire

John might be a link to your London preacher's family { looks like the London preacher is a grandson of this Richard )

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John TYNDELL - Northumberland to East Dean

by m p griffiths @, Monday, July 19, 2010, 16:37 (5246 days ago) @ slowhands

(just to re-cap) 1841 Census, Slimbridge

Richard TYNDALL - 50, Grocer
Sarah - 45
Aquila ?- 20 - born in County
Mary - 20 - born in County
Septimus - 12 - not born in County
Sarah 10 - not born in County
Timothy - 8 - not born in County
Ebenzer - 6 - born in County
Pricella - 3 - born in County

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Ancestry: copy of Marriage
Westminster, St John the Evangelist, Paddington, 13 August 1853

John TYNDALL - Baker of Star Street, father Richard TYNDALL - Grocer
Married
Hannah BUTTON - of Star Street, father William BUTTON, farmer

witnesses: Timothy TYNDALL and Eliza Burrinailes?


1871 Census, East Dean

John TYNDALL - 45 - Baker & Confectioner, born Northumberland
Hannah TYNDALL - 43, born Suffolk
Samuel TYNDALL - 15, born Glos. Cinderford
Annie - 10 - born Cinderford

Richard TYNDALL 1845 - 1922 London (g-son of Richard 1789 ?)

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, July 19, 2010, 14:26 (5247 days ago) @ suesteer

dies

Name: Richard Tyndall
Death Registration Month/Year: 1922
Age at death (estimated): 77
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1753

born to this family

1851
Henry Tyndall abt 1814 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Head St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Margaret Tyndall abt 1817 Ludlow, Shropshire, England Wife St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Henry Tyndall abt 1842 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Sarah Tyndall abt 1843 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Daughter St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Richard Tyndall abt 1845 St George The Martyr, Middlesex, England Son St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Samuel Tyndall abt 1848 St George The Martyr, Middlesex, England Son St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Ebenezer Tyndall abt 1849 St George The Martyr, Middlesex, England Son St George The Martyr, Middlesex
Mary Ann Tyndall abt 1850 St George The Martyr, Middlesex, England Daughter St George The Martyr, Middlesex


his father from North Gloucestershire; again a Richard appears - family name ?

Henry Tyndall
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Event(s):
Birth: 21 OCT 1814 Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: Richard Tyndall
Mother: Sarah Leonard
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Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship
to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original
records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to
find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in
the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History
Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name
of the father or husband.
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Source Information:
Film Number: 537433
Page Number:
Reference number: 88251


possible parents take us back to South Gloucestershire, into the Dursley / Thornbury area


RICHARD TYNDALL
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Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH LEONARD
Marriage: 26 MAY 1812 Old Sodbury, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M030901 1784 - 1812 0427775 Film 6911788 Film
Sheet: 00


from here it becomes a bit hit and miss I'm afraid - need some cross references to build anything solid.

However this couple could be Richard 1789 born Dursley and Sarah, their children's birth places reflect a wandering Methodist preacher !

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Richard TYNDALL 1845 - 1922 London (g-son of Richard 1789 ?)

by m p griffiths @, Monday, July 19, 2010, 15:46 (5246 days ago) @ slowhands

The CD states

Old Sodbury marriage

Richard TYNDALL of Dursley married Sarah LEONARD - 26 May 1812

Richard TYNDALL 1845 - 1922 London (g-son of Richard 1789 )

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, July 19, 2010, 16:01 (5246 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Bingo !!!!!!

{ a cross reference }

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RICHARD TYNDALL -

by m p griffiths @, Monday, July 19, 2010, 15:00 (5246 days ago) @ suesteer

1891 Census, London Greenwich
26 Dupree Road

Richard TYNDALL age 42(Widr) , c 1849, City Missionary Preacher - born London, Holborn


1901 Census, London, Charlton
Priorlo Road

Richard TYNDALL age 51 - City Missionary Preacher - born Clerkenwell
Elizabeth TYNDALL -wife age 36 - born Durham
Reginald TYNDALL - Son age 28, Draughtsman, Engineering, born Tavistock, Devon


FreeBDM - MARRIAGE - Sept Qtr 1891, Woolwich

Richard TYNDALL -

Elizabeth TODNER WATSON


1911 Census - WOOLWICH

Richard TYNDALL - age 62 c 1849
Elizabeth TODNER TYNDALL - age 46 - c 1865
Winifred May TYNDALL - age 2 c 1909


Ancestry: copy of Register entry

St George The Martyr
11 January 1852

Richard, son of Henry & Mary Anne TYNDALL (Wheelwright)
No. 2 Great Ormond Yard

born 29 December 1844 - Charles Marson (Curate)


The 1851 census for Henry TYNDALL and his family, also list

Sarah DANKS, mother-in-law (Widow) age 58, formerly Governess, born Salop, Ludlow
Thomas DANKS, apprentice 17 - born Warwick, Birmingham

On FreeBDM

There is a Marriage at Aston of a Henry TYNDALL to a Mary Ann LLOYD (is she nee DANKS?) - March Qtr 1841

Henry LLoyd TYNDALL, birth - Aston, Sept Qtr 1841


1841 Census Aston

Henry TYNDALL - 26 - Coach Builder, not born in County
Mary TYNDALL - 23 - not born in County

RICHARD TYNDALL - b 1789 Dursley

by suesteer, Monday, July 19, 2010, 18:25 (5246 days ago) @ suesteer

Many thanks for all the replies - so quick as well! I really appreciate the information.

I made a mistake in my origonal email. My great-grandfather, Richard Tyndall was born in 1845 (not 1855) and he died in 1922 aged 76. I have so many dates that I managed to confuse myself!

Thanks once again.

Sue Steer

RICHARD TYNDALL - b 1789 Dursley

by suesteer, Thursday, July 22, 2010, 17:41 (5243 days ago) @ suesteer

Dear All.... I just wanted to say thank you for all your invaluable help. After using the information you gave me and the records available on ancestry.co.uk it seems pretty certain that I am indeed a descendant of Richard Tyndall, born 1789 in Dursley. He was my great-great-great Grandfather.

I am in the process of filling in the entire family tree on ancestry.co.uk which I will leave as public if anyone is interested but the basics are :

Richard Tyndall (b 1789 Dursley, lived Littledean, d 1875 Cinderford)
m
Sarah Leonard (b 1792, Coaley)
(married 26 May 1812 Old Sodbury d 1869)

They seem to have had 11 children.
One of these Henry was my great-great grandfather)

Henry Tyndall (b 21 Oct 1814 Tewkesbury, d 1888 Stoke Newington
m
Margaret ? Mary Ann
(b Ludlow 1817)

According to the London City Mission Obituary of my great-grandfather (Richard Tyndall) his father (Henry) was a master wheelwright in Great Ormond Yard, London with a prosperous business. They wanted Richard to go into the ministry but he persued business interests until becoming a London City Missionary in 1885. It also says that his grandfather (Richard Tyndall from Dursley) was a Baptist Minister which would explain his travelling and why the children were born in different places.

Son of Henry and Margaret was Richard Tyndall who married Elizabeth Todner Watson (from country Durham). They had two daughters - my Grandmother Winifred May Tyndall (b 1908 London) and Kathleen Annie Tyndall b 1911, my great-aunt.
(There seems to have been a previous marriage and a son, Reginald but this is a complete surprise and there is no family knowledge at all).

They lived in Greenwich and Charlton, London.

Gran married a Reginald Gilbert - they had two children, Antony Gilbert (my uncle) and my mother Kathleen Rosemary Gilbert (b 1938). They lived in Bromley, Kent.

Mum married Brian Steer (Dad) in 1961 and then they had me in 1964! I have two siblings as well.

Well, you didn't need to know all of that but I am very excited to trace my family back to Gloucestershire and am planning a trip with mum in September to visit some key places. thank you all once again and if any of you are interested in the Tyndall family line in general please get in touch.

Best wishes
Sue Steer

RICHARD TYNDALL - b 1789 Dursley

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, July 23, 2010, 07:57 (5243 days ago) @ suesteer

Thanks

Its always good when someone takes the time to confirm that the help / hints given have helped ( or otherwise !)

regards
S

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