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I am trying to trace the Meek relatives on my wife's side of the family. Miles Meek married Mary Jane Phillips and had a number of children including sons Miles, Enoch, William Henry, Israel, Rose and John Jack Meek who married Rhoda Ward in Yorkshiure who was my wife's grandfather. All of the above children were born between 1870 and 1890. Miles Meek senior had a brother called John Jack Meek who married Anne Baker. They had 13 children including Hartley Meek who himself had 8 children incxluding a Thomas John Meek who married Kathleen and who lived at Colchester Close, Mitcheldean in the 1990's.

Any help on dates or people listed above would be great!

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Name: Miles Meek
Name: Mary Jane Phillips
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 418

1881
Miles Meek abt 1856 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jane abt 1857 Ruardean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Simeon abt 1876 Ruardean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Israel Meek abt 1877 Ruardean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ernest Edwin abt 1879 Ruardean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
Mary J Meek abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Miles Meek abt 1856 Pydroth West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Simion Meek abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Israac Meek abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ernest E Meek abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William H Meek abt 1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Miles Meek abt 1883 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Meek abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Beatrice Meek abt 1891 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1901
Miles Meek abt 1854 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jane abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Israel Meek abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Meek abt 1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Miles Meek abt 1883 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Meek abt 1891 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Enock Meek abt 1893 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Meek abt 1899 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Meek abt 1899 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1911
MEEK MILES M 1854 57 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ALBERT M 1898 13 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK JOHN M 1899 12 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ANN F 1827 84 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

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1851
Joseph Week abt 1782 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Week abt 1791 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Solomon Week abt 1830 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1859
Month: Sep
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Solomon
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Harry Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William N Truss Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 180
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1861
Fanny Meek abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Solomon Meek abt 1833 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Meek abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Meek abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Solomon Meek abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Soloman Meek 41
Fanny Meek 41
William Meek 16
John Meek 12
Soloman Meek 11
Asenath Meek 1
Omran Meek 6
Auther Edm Meek 3
Albert Meek 1

1881
Fanny Meek abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Soloman Meek abt 1831 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Meek abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Soloman Meek abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Asenath Meek abt 1863 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Osman Meek abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Arthur Meek abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Meek abt 1870 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1887
Month: Apr
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 28
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Coal miner
Grooms_Residence: Drybrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Meek
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Solomon
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Brides_Surname: BAKER
Brides_Forenames: Anne
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Drybrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Baker
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Engine fitter deceased
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: James Baker
Witness_2: Asenath Meek
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 49
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1891
John Meck abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Meck abt 1862 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Meck abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sydney Meck abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Frances Meck abt 1890 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Meck abt 1890 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1901
John Meek abt 1859 Harry Hill Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Meek abt 1863 Harry Hill Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sydney Meek abt 1889 Harry Hill Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Meek abt 1890 Harry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Frances Meek abt 1891 Harry Hill Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert H Meek abt 1893 Harry Hill Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Laura Meek abt 1894 Harry Hill Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Newton Meek abt 1895 Harry Hill Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily E Meek abt 1896 Harry Hill Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Meek abt 1897 Harry Hill Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Frank Meek abt 1898 Harry Hill Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Meek abt 1900 Harry Hill Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Hartley Meek
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 314

1911
MEEK JOHN M 1859 52 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ANNIE F 1863 48 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK HARTLEY M 1903 8 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ALBERT M 1893 18 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ALFRED M 1888 23 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ANNIE F 1897 14 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK FRANK M 1898 13 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK JOSEPH M 1905 6 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK LAURA F 1894 17 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK MAURICE M 1902 9 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK NEWTON M 1895 16 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK ROSE F 1907 4 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK SIDNEY M 1889 22 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
MEEK TOM M 1890 21 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

Name: Hartley Meek
Spouse : Annie D Brain
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Westbury-On-Severn
Registration county (inferred): Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 678

Name: Annie Delores Brain
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 288

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Hi JohnB

I have Miles Meek 1856 who married Mary Jane Philips in my Family Tree, he would be my 7th cousin twice removed. I have 11 children listed for this family, but no Rose. You will note from the census data provided by Slowhands that no Rose appears on the census, is it perhaps a "chosen" name for another of Miles & Mary's daughters, Ellen 1889, Beatrice 1890 or Mary 1891 ?

You will also notice from the marriage detail provided by Slowhands that John Meek 1859 (my 4th cousin 4 times removed) who married Annie Baker was in fact the son of Solomon Meek 1829 and Frances Martin 1830. Solomon Meek 1829 was in turn the son of Joseph Meek 1782 & Hannah Cooke 1792. Joseph Meek 1782 in turn son of Joseph Meek 1749 & Ann Harris.

When researching Joseph Meek around this time, note that apart from Joseph Meek 1782 who married Hannah Cooke, there is also a Joseph Meek 1771 who married Hannah Baldwin 1779. Getting the families right is subjective, so this is "My" interpretation of events.

Researching back from Miles Meek 1856, his parents Elijah Meek 1824 & Ann Roberts, Elijah Meek's parents Moses Meek 1800 & Sarah Tippins 1803, Moses Meek's parents James Meek 1774 & Mary Gagg, it is possible of course that James Meek 1774 may be a sibling of one of the Joseph's shown above - 1771 or 1782.

My relationship in this line stems from Sarah Tippins 1803 whose parents were William Tippins 1773 & Sarah Read 1778. Going back two more generations gets you to Thomas Wilce 1707 & Susannah Marfell 1706, the latter being my second cousin 7 times removed.

Now seeking help from Slowhands. I note from Slowhands excellent contribution that Hartley Meek married Annie Delores Brain in 1928 (Parish Record shown below). Annie is shown as daughter of Amos Brain. I have an Amos Brain 1886 married to Alice Mary, also an Amos Brain 1867 married to Ellen Mary Hulbert in 1893 and am wondering if there is a connection.

As an aside the grandmother of Amos Meek 1886 is the daughter of Joseph Meek 1782 & Hannah Cooke 1792, sister of Solomon......................

Year: 1928
Month: Apr
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Forenames: Hartley
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Plump Hill Mitcheldean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Retired
Brides_Surname: BRAIN
Brides_Forenames: Annie Delores
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Plump Hill Mitcheldean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BRAIN
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Amos
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Joseph Meek
Witness_2: Lilian Palfrey
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 77
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Jim Ashton

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Name: Amos Brain
Death Registration Month/Year: 1939
Age at death (estimated): 72
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 390

Name: Annie Delores Brain
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 288

1911
BRAIN AMOS M 1867 44 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN ELLEN F 1874 37 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN ANNIE MARY F 1908 3 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire - Annie D Brain ?
BRAIN ANDREW HULBERT M 1903 8 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN CORA IRIS F 1906 5 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN DORA CATHRINE F 1896 15 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN EMILY F 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

1901 The Rookery nr Hazel hill
Amos Brain abt 1869 Horsepool Bottom, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Brain abt 1874 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Brain abt 1896 Horsepool Bottom, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Marjory Brain abt 1898 Horsepool Bottom, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Brain abt 1900 Horsepool Bottom, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

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Hi Slowhands

Thanks for that. I reckon she is the daughter of Amos Brain 1867 & Ellen Mary Hulbert 1874.

As an interesting aside; Amos Brain 1867 had a brother Flower, who is shown as a daughter on the Census of 1881 & 1891 - 1881 shown below. However I don't believe they were into sex changes in those days He married Julia Elizabeth Barnard 1875 and they had a son Maurice Thomas Brain 22 Mar 1898 !!

1881 Census
Dwelling:
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341609 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2524 Folio 21 Page 16
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John BRAIN M 48 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Iron Miner
Milindra BRAIN M 44 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Leavitt BRAIN U 21 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Martin BRAIN U 18 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Albert BRAIN U 16 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Amos BRAIN U 14 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Charles BRAIN U 12 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Thursa BRAIN U 9 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Flower BRAIN U 8 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar

Thanks again

Jim Ashton

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You can almost see the enumerator writing up his notes - "Flower ? Boy or girl ? perhaps its was Fluere - daughter then "

Year: 1872
Month: Nov
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: BRAIN
Child_Forenames: Flower
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Melinda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: East Dean
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: John Senior Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of entered after childs Christian name
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 42
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall

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There are other 'male' Flower's on various census including

Flower FISHER on the 1841 census for Ruardean with his father Thomas

1841 Census, Lydbrook

FISHER

Thomas (Foregeman) - 30
George - 15
Thomas - 13
Flower - 8
William - 5 (10 Jan 1836 - Thomas & Elinor) - Ruardean
Elleanor - 35
Amelia - 2

Flower FISHER married Maria JORDAN 28 December 1850, Newland

1841 Census, Ruardean
Lydbrook

Flower FISHER - 20 - Fireman, born Ruardean
Maria FISHER - (wife) age 19 - born East Dean
Thomas HUGGERY - age 20, Fireman, Wales N.K.
William FISHER - 17 - Furnaceman, born Ruardean

But there are ....... FLOWER FISHER, so sometimes the christian name was at one point a surname in the family

1851 Census, Monmouthshire, Tintern

Thos. FISHER - 45 - Foreman, born Monmouthshire, Tintern
transcribed as HELLEN - but is Eleanor - FISHER age, 42, born Monmouthshire Tintern
Amelia FISHER - age 13, born. Glos. Ruardean
George FISHER - 13 - born Glos. Ruardean

+ two lodgers (Isaac & Amelia GLEMWOOD? both age 28, born Monmouthshire, Tintern

1861 Census, Monmouthshire, Tintern Parva
Old Furnace
FISHER
Thomas 55 - Foregman, born Lydbrook
Ellen - 60 , born Mon, Tintern
William 28, George 21, & Amelia 23 - all born Lydbrook
William FISHER, Grandson age 5 - born Tintern

1861 Census, Lydbrook

Flower FISHER - 29 Foreman, born Tintern Abbey, Monmouth
Maria - 28 - born Lydbrook
Harriot 9, Mary Ann 6, and Thomas 1

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Thanks M P Griffiths

I have Flower Fisher & his wife Maria Jordon 1832 in my Family Tree as their daughter Harriett Fisher 1852 married Joseph Mountjoy Cinderey 1850. Joseph's parents were Henry Cinderey 1812 and Mary Ann Mountjoy 1820. Henry Cinderey had 2 siblings that are related to me; Samuel Cinderey 1816 who married Mary Ann Brain 1821 & William 1825 who married Esther Meek 1826.

Joseph Mountjoy Cindery and Harriett Fisher had 6 children including Henry Flower Cinderey 1888.

Jim Ashton

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Appears in one census transcript as Flomer Bram.....

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Name: Amos Brain
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1886
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1712

Year: 1911
Month: Apr
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: BRAIN
Grooms_Forenames: Amos
Grooms_Age: 24
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Puddlebrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: BRAIN
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Deceased
Brides_Surname: GRIFFITHS
Brides_Forenames: Alice Mary
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hazel Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: GRIFFITHS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: William Archie Smart
Witness_2: Florence Griffiths
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1911 (probable members of household)
BRAIN AMOS M 1887 24 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
BRAIN ALFRED BENJAMIN M 1891 20 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD BRAIN MABEL CONSTANCE F 1888 23 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD BRAIN SARAH F 1847 64 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

1901
Benjamin Brain abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Brain abt 1853 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Annos Brain abt 1887 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith E Brain abt 1890 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred B Brain abt 1891 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

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The only inconsistency I see with Annie Delores being the daughter of Amos Brain 1867 is her middle name. The older Amos did not marry until 1911, and Annie Delores was born 1808. Can only fin 2 Annie Brains in 1911 of age 3-ish, one being Annie Mary (dau of Amos) and the other has a father Albert. Nor does a search for Amos Brain throw up anything that contradicts - so I'm going to assume Annie Mary is one and same as Annie Delores......

KNEW I'd be related somehow to Hartley, but researching him only came up with very distaant connections until now.

Cheers
Bob Jenkins

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Thanks Bob

I agree this must be the Annie Delores Brain that was born 1908 with possibly a slip up by the enumerator. Sometimes a person is shown on the census with a different name, it usually being a "chosen" preferred name, but not for a second name.
I think the birth reg. as per Slowhands details is probably her:

Name: Annie Delores Brain
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 288

Jim Ashton

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John,

I have the children of Miles Meek and Mary Jane Phillips as:-
Ellen b Sep qtr 1888, Mary b abt 1891, Enoch b Dec qtr 1893, Albert b abt 1899, John b abt 1899, Miles (Tom) b Dec qtr 1882 d 23 Dec 1950, Israel b Sep qtr 1877, William b abt 1881, Simeon b Dec qtr 1875, Ermest Edwin b Dec qtr 1878, and Beatrice b abt 1890.

.....Danny

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For info.
Miles and Mary Jane were my Maternal Great Grandparents. My Grandfather was Simion Meek (b 31/09/1875. He was a coal miner. He was married to Helen Meek nee Nelmes. They lived at Westbury House , Plump Hill , Mitcheldean.

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For info.

Miles and Mary Jane were my Maternal Great Grandparents. My Grandfather was Simion Meek (b 31/09/1875. He was a coal miner. He was married to Helen Meek nee Nelmes. They lived at Westbury House , Plump Hill , Mitcheldean.my name is trace delance meek my dad is william hararld meek dont know if we are related if i can help let me no

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