Parish Record Check Please Lucy & Alfred Meek marriage

Is it possible to check the detail of a Parish Record Transcription please. The item in question is pasted below.

According to my records Lucy Meek was the daughter of Moses Meek and Lucy Parsons and Alfred Meek was the son of Richard Meek and Hannah Harrison.

Record_ID: 3154
Entry_Number: 290
Year: 1878
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Grooms_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Forenames: Alfred
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Woodside
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Meek
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MEEK
Brides_Forenames: Lucy
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woodside
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Meek
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Meredith
Witness_2: Ann Baldwin
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 145
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns
Soundex_Groom: M200
Soundex_Bride: M200

It would be quite easy to transpose the details when transcribing as both had the same surname.

Jim Ashton

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I have already checked this for another researcher and the transcription is correct. Maybe the Minister got the father`s names transposed.

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Thanks Graham.

Unless I hear to the contrary, I think I agree that the minister got them transposed.

Thanks too M P Griffiths

As you can imagine, I already have all the Census data and you are right Moses Meek is the son of Beriah Meek who was in turn the son of Moses Meek 1779 and Anne Brain 1781. I am related to both Moses and Anne, and to add to those relationships, it was a first marriage for Anne Brain, her second when Moses died in 1827 was to a second cousin Henry Roberts 1777.

Thanks also to Colin Fenton
As you know it was quite common for two or more children to be baptised on the same day, indeed her siblings Jane (who married Alfred Meek's brother John **), Tryphena, Moses, Rhoda & Bessie were all baptised on 16 Jan 1870.

** When Jane Meek married John Meek, the minister managed to get their parents Richard Meek & Moses Meek the right way around !! Perhaps it was easier because Richard was dead by then.

Jim Ashton

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No problems finding family links with a name 'Tryphena' - which means (by looking up on the 'net') 'Delicate' and of Greek origin.

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Thanks

I have always thought it an odd name, I have 12 in my Family Tree, including 3 Meek's, 2 Marfell's and 2 Wilce's

Jim Ashton

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=26047

May be other links to..... however.....

1861 Census, Ruardean Hill - District 9, page 14 of 17

MEEK

Moses - 31 - all born East Dean
Lucy - 32
Mark A 9
Giles - 7
Lucy - 5 (1871 Census, Lucy working in Christchurch as a Dom.Serv. to Margaret HIGGINS, Lodging House Keeper)
Lydia A - 3
Jane - 1

1871 census for Moses - already in thread - with a daughter Tripheona age 8).....

Next door to Moses & Lucy MEEK on 1871 census, is Beriah? MEEK age 63, wife Tryphena age 62 and Sarah aged 40

1841 Census, Dean Forest, Ruardean Hill

Beria MEEK - 35 - Coalminer
Moses - 12 (christened 23 November 1828, Drybrook, parents Beriah & Tryphenia)
Trephena - 36
Sarah 10
Ann - 8
Jane - 6
Leah - 4
NK (Son) - 7 weeks

Beriah MEEK married Tryphenia WILLIAMS - 20 April 1828, Walford

1861 Census, Ruardean, District 7, page 6 of 25
Morse Lane

MEEK

Richard - 37, born East Dean
Hannah - 32 - born East Dean
Richard 10 - children all born Ruardean
Thomas - 8
Alfred - 5
Enos - 3
John - 1

1871 Census - East Dean
Morse Road

MEEK

Richard - 47
Hannah - 42
Richard - 20
Thomas - 18
Alfred - 15
Enos - 13
Mary - 7
Albert - 11 months

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I agree - census information supports Jim's original information.

There is also a baptism (Drybrook) for Lucy on 31Mar1861 on the same day as her sister, Lydia, though ages shown in the censuses show that Lucy was probably born in 1856 (Westbury on Severn 1856 Q1 6a 186) and Lydia in 1857 (Westbury on Severn 1857 Q4 6a 175).

-Colin

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While checking the census entries for this family I found a gap (no 1891 record) and from the birth locations given in 1901 it would seem that the family moved to the USA around 1882 and returned sometime before 1896. Albert and Earl were born in the USA c1883 and c1888 but Ray was born in Cinderford around 1896.

1901 Census - Bilson Green
Alfred Meek 44 - head - Coal Miner/Hewer - b Drybrook
Lucy Meek 44 - wife - b Drybrook
Flora M Williams 22 - daughter - b Drybrook
Lily Meek 20 - daughter - Draper's Assistant - b Drybrook
Albert Meek 18 - son - Coal Miner/Hewer filling - b USA
Earl Meek 13 - son - b USA
Ray Meek 5 - son - b Cinderford
Myrtle Williams 8 months - grand-daughter - b Cinderford

My records suggest that Alfred was my first cousin 3 times removed and Lucy my third cousin twice removed (plus other more distant connections for both of them ! )

Anyone have any further information about where they went?

Thanks

-Colin

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Colin

Their return is on Ancestry - 5 September 1894

under listed MECK/& also MEEK - at least this shows where Alfred MEEK was working - will see if I can find their outward trip.

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MEEK

Port of Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

Arrival Date: 5 September 1894

Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England

Ship: The 'Ohio'

Shipping Line - No Owner or agent listed

Offical Number : 19376

Alfd MEEK age 39, Miner
Lucy - 38 - Wife
Flora - 14 - Scholar
Lillie - 11
Bertie - 9
Earl - 5

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Thanks Colin, also M P Griffiths for shipping detail.

Interesting that Florence is shown as a Williams with daughter Myrtle in 1901, I cannot find a marriage on parish records or Free BMD, perhaps she married him in USA, Myrtle does sound "American" - with apologies to any British or other nationality Myrtle's !!

Jim Ashton

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Jim on Ancestry:

There is an Earl MECK (which looks like MEEK) - age 22 and a Miner, (3rd Class) arriving in Liverpool, on the 17 May 1910 aboard the Maurentia, (Cunard Line) from New York to Liverpool via. Fishguard

Lots of MEEK's going backwards and forwards across the pond - and can see quite a few people with occupation: MINERS

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Marriage on FreebMD

William WILLIAMS married Flora Jane MEEK - A/M/J Qtr 1899 - Westbury on Severn

1911 Census - Merthyr Tydfil, Glam

Flora Jane WILLIAMS age 32, born Gloucestershire

Lucy Myrtle WILLIAMS - age 10 (1901) - FreeBDM - J/A/S Qtr 1900 Westbury S **
Albert Owen WILLIAMS - age 8 (1903) - FreeBDM - J/F/M Qtr 1903 - Merthyr T
William WILLIAMS - age 36 - (1875)

** Listed on deaths (Ancestry)

Lucy Myrtle WILLIAMS - born 23 July 1900 - death - October 1987 FOD - age 87

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Well that seems to fit in with other info I have. This William Williams was my great-uncle (his father and grand-father were also called William). I am sure I recall my mother talking about her cousin Myrtle which would fit too.

-Colin

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