Timothy Cooper St.Whites Flaxley. Help (General)

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Monday, August 23, 2010, 04:25 (5212 days ago)

I am trying to find more informtion on the will of Timothy Cooper 1814-1884. All I have found so far is a Probate and it states:

Cooper Timothy.
Personal Estate £431 16s 6d.
30 September. The Will of Timothy Cooper late of St.White's Flaxley in the County of Gloucester Farmer who died 31 January 1884 at St. White's was proved at Gloucester by George Frederick Church of Cinderford in the said County Butcher and Joseph Hague of Monk Hill Flaxley Farmer the Executors.

If his personal estate was worth so much why (and I may have this wrong) have I found his widow Eliza Cooper (was Turner)in the 1891 census working as a housekeeper at 157 Bedford Street, Liverpool.

Mary

Timothy COOPER 1814 -1884 Mousell Farm St.Whites

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, August 23, 2010, 06:35 (5212 days ago) @ beav2012

Year: 1814
Month: Nov
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: Timothy
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: RG4/766
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Littledean Independent


1841 Woodside
Timothy Cooper abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Beer House Keeper
Ann Cooper abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire


1851
Timothy Cooper abt 1815 Hinden Lane, Gloucestershire, England Head Extraparochial, Gloucestershire
Ann Cooper abt 1818 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Extraparochial, Gloucestershire

1861
Timothy Cooper abt 1814 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Ann Cooper abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Allice Cooper abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Flaxley, Gloucestershire

1871 Mousell Farm Flaxley
Timothy Cooper 57
Ann Cooper 56
Georgina Hay 16 Niece
Emma Davis 49 Visitor

1881
Timothy Cooper abt 1815 Cinderford (Eastdean) Head Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Eliza Cooper abt 1844 Deerhurst, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxley, Gloucestershire

Year: 1884
Month: Feb
Day: 4
Surname: COOPER
Forenames: Timothy
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 70 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 135
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns


1891
Eliza Cooper abt 1849 Deerhurst, Gloucestershire, England Housekeeper Liverpool, Lancashire

Eliza had been married to Timothy for 5 or 6 years.

What about any children of Timothy's marriage to Ann ( or were they childless ?) - is this where the bulk of the money / estate went ?

In 1880, £431 16s 0d would have the same spending worth of today's £20,860.26 { approx US$30,000 or AUS$ 35,000 }

1904 St. White's farm, which comprised 101 a., came into the possession of Thomas Harrison Burdess by his purchase of the moieties held by F. M. Lloyd and Eleanor Phillips. Eleanor's moiety derived from Elizabeth Bradley and in 1865 had been vested in, as trustee for sale under Elizabeth's will, her husband Thomas Adams Phillips (d. c. 1892), (fn. 24) the owner by 1870 of Mousell farm (44 a.). (fn. 25) T. H. Burdess died in 1915 and after his wife Hannah surrendered St. White's farm in 1954 Sir Launcelot Crawley-Boevey sold the freehold to the tenant farmer, Jesse Virgo. (fn. 26) The farmhouse, on the site of the medieval grange, (fn. 27) dated from a rebuilding in the 19th century. In the mid 20th century it was occupied by the Cinderford golf club (fn. 28) and in the later 1980s it contained several dwellings.

From: 'Flaxley', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 138-150. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23256 Date accessed: 23 August 2010.

Mousell Farm was also known as Mousell Barn farm.

Today its roughly the land to the east of Doubleview Cinderford, coming down the hillside towards Littledean

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Timothy COOPER St.Whites Farm

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Monday, August 23, 2010, 06:50 (5212 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi Slowhands

I cannot find any children for Timothy from either of his marriages. His first marriage was to Ann Pritchard in 1841, she died in 1876 and Timothy married Eliza two years later. From the Parish records he was at least 30yrs older than Eliza so maybe he was hoping for children but for one reason or another it never happened.

Mary

Timothy COOPER St.Whites Farm

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Monday, August 23, 2010, 11:49 (5211 days ago) @ beav2012

Hi David

I got your email, thank you so much. I wasn't sure if you wanted me to reply via this website or my own email, can you let me know.

Kind Regards
Mary

Timothy COOPER St.Whites Farm

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 08:22 (5211 days ago) @ beav2012

Thank you all, once again for all your help. I now have the document and it makes for a very interesting read indeed.

Mary

Timothy COOPER St.Whites Farm

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 09:32 (5211 days ago) @ beav2012

Ok so now I have another query arising from Timothy's will and that is, he has Mary Ann Cooper, wife of Walter Harry but I have her sister Emma Yates Cooper as Walter's wife. They married on the 3rd May 1874. I also have Walter in the 1871 census, lodging with Emma and her Mother Ann. He is a widow and has a daughter Ada Mary Harry. So my question is who did Mary Ann Cooper marry? Sorry I should add that Mary was born c1842 in Bilson Green and the last residence I have for her is in 1861 Breconshire, Wales. occupation: servant. Working for Thomas and Alice Rogers (not sure if they were her Mother's parents/family).

Mary

Walter HARRY , 1841 Chepstow & Emma COOPER 1850

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 16:03 (5210 days ago) @ beav2012

Year: 1816
Month: Jul
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: John Evan
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: Ed[war]d Probyn Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Base son
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

1851
John Cooper abt 1815 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Cooper abt 1816 Middlestown, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Oliver S Cooper abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma G Cooper abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
George S Cooper abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
John Cooper abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Cooper abt 1817 Middlestown, Glamorgan, Wales Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter J Cooper abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Cooper abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Cooper abt 1848 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Cooper abt 1850 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1841 Bilson Green, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cathedine, Breconshire

1861
Walter Griffiths abt 1788 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Charles Griffiths abt 1816 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Walter Harry abt 1841 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Grandson Chepstow, Monmouthshire


1871 Cinderford
Ann Cooper 52 Widow
Emma Cooper 21
Walter Harry 29 Widower
Ada Mary Harry 8

1871 Hinders Lane, Cinderford
Jabez Cooper 75
Susan Cooper 70
George Cooper 46
Mary Ann Cooper 35


Name: Walter Harry
Name: Emma Yeats Cooper
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 436

1881
Walter Harry abt 1841 Chepstow, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Harry abt 1850 Wales Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Flora Harry abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Harry abt 1877 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Caroline Harry abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire


1891
Walter Harry abt 1841 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Flora A Harry abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George T Harry abt 1878 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Caroline Harry abt 1881 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Cooper abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger East Dean, Gloucestershire


Year: 1900
Month: Mar
Day: 19
Surname: HARRY
Forenames: Walter
Residence: Bilson Green
Age_at_death: 58
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 129
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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Mary Ann COOPER 1835 -1921 Dockham, Cinderford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 16:55 (5210 days ago) @ beav2012

Year: 1823
Month: Oct
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: COOPER
Grooms_Forenames: Jabez
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Little Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BAMFORD
Brides_Forenames: Susannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Little Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Joseph Sier
Witness_2: Elizabeth Thompson[?]
Other_Witnesses: Tho[ma]s Bamford
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s R Garnsey Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Littledean


Year: 1824
Month: Feb
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: George Bamford
Fathers_Forenames: Jabez
Mothers_Forenames: Susan
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little Dean
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: Maxwell Phayre Off[iciatin]g Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 46
Parish_Chapel: Littledean


Year: 1835
Month: Mar
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: COOPER
Child_Forenames: Mary Ann
Fathers_Forenames: Jabez
Mothers_Forenames: Susan
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Occupation: Coalminer
Officiating_Minister: J Parsons Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 96
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

1841
Jabez Cooper abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Susannah Cooper abt 1803 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Cooper abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Cooper abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
Jabez Cooper abt 1798 Hinden Lane, Gloucestershire, England Head Extraparochial, Gloucestershire
Susannah Cooper abt 1801 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Extraparochial, Gloucestershire
George Cooper abt 1824 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son Extraparochial, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Cooper abt 1832 Dockham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Extraparochial, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1835 Dockham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Extraparochial, Gloucestershire

1861
Jabez Cooper abt 1797 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Susanah Cooper abt 1801 Exfernhial, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
George Cooper abt 1824 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1836 Experochial, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham, Gloucestershire


1871 Hinders Lane, Cinderford
Jabez Cooper 75
Susan Cooper 70
George Cooper 46
Mary Ann Cooper 35

Year: 1871
Month: May
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: PHILLIPS
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Flaxley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Phillips
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: COOPER
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Flaxley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Cooper
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Jabez
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Reuben Meredith
Witness_2: Phoebe Sophia Meredith
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Arthur E Hill B A Curate of Newnham
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 111
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

Name:Edmund Evans Chivers
Name: Mary Ann Phillips
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 407

1881
George Cooper abt 1826 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edmund Chivers abt 1831 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Chivers abt 1836 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
Edmund Chivers abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Chivers abt 1836 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1909
Month: Mar
Day: 5
Surname: CHIVERS
Forenames: Edmund Evan
Residence: Bilson Green Cinderford
Age_at_death: 79 years
Officiating_Minister: F. W. Cresswell Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 160
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns


Year: 1921
Month: Jan
Day: 14
Surname: CHIVERS
Forenames: Mary Ann
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 85
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 65
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Mary Ann COOPER 1835 -1921 Dockham, Cinderford

by beav2012 @, Adelaide, South Australia, Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 01:49 (5210 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you for that. I do have all the census and marriage (but not baptism) records for this family, except for Mary Ann.I cannot find her after 1861. I have her parents as John Cooper c1815-1863 and Ann Rogers c1816-1900. John and Ann married on the 12th May 1836 (information sourced from the parish records). His brother Timothy was a witness as was his future wife Ann Pritchard. John and Ann's children were: Walter J Cooper 1839-1914. Mary Ann 1842. Oliver T. 1844-1866. Emma Y. 1847-1887 and George Samson Cooper 1850-1914.

Mary

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