NICHOLSON William, Coleford, Newland from 1830s (General)
by normalkiwi 
, Sunday, August 29, 2010, 11:55 (5205 days ago)
Looking for info on family of William Nicholson, Baptist minister & postmaster of Coleford. It seems that he first married Martha Nicholson (cousin) in 1834. Son William (Patrick) b 1835 went to Queensland, Australia and daughter Eliza b 1837 married Edward Davies & went to NZ in 1875. Eliza was my gggmother.
William’s wife was shown as Ann, b Plymouth, in Censuses from 1851 to 1871, then wife in 1881 is Mary Clayton. Did Martha die before 1839 – that would fit a marriage to Ann Ayre of Plymouth. And was Mary the third wife?
I have a fair amount of info on the Aus & NZ families, and a transcript of Eliza’s shipboard diary (have not been able to discover who posted it on net).
Would be grateful for any info.
Sue
1851 Census - Nicholson
by m p griffiths , Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:13 (5205 days ago) @ normalkiwi
1851 Census - Newland, High Street
William NICHOLSON - Mar, 45 Postmaster - born Devenport
Ann NICHOLSON - Mar - 42 - born Devonshire, Plymouth
William NICHOLSON - Son - unmarried age 16 - Clerk, born Gloucester, Coleford
Eliza NICHOLSON - daughter - unmarried age 15, born Gloucester, Coleford
Sarah NICHOLSON - Sister - unmarried, age 49, born Devonshire, Devenport
Mary NAMEWELL - Lodger, Widow, age 90, St Stephens, Cornwall
Thomas TUCK ?- Assisant, unmarried, age 20 - Assistant, born Chepstow
Joseph CHIVERS - Assistant, unmarried, age 17, born Gloucester, Newnham
Joseph JAMES - Assistant, unmarried, age 24 - born Gloucester, Lea
Phoebe JONES - General Servant, unmarried, age 18, General Servant, born Monmouth, Penrose
Anne MATTHEWS - General Servant, unmarried, born Gloucester, Coleford
1851 Census - Nicholson
by normalkiwi , Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:25 (5205 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Many thanks.
Sue
Mary NAMEWELL/NANKIVEL(L)
by m p griffiths , Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:32 (5205 days ago) @ normalkiwi
William and Eliza NICHOLSON (parents William & Martha) were (as you know) both baptised at Coleford Baptist
There is a death on FOD records of a Mary NEWKIVEL - age 93 - residence (near Coleford) - date of death 1 Jul 1854 (assume this is Mary NAMEWELL!!!)
FreeBDM
J/A/S Qtr 1854 - Monmouth District
Mary NANKIVEL
Looking on 'Probate records' on Ancestry - this lists 'folk' from Devon/Cornwall/Gloucester
Nicholson - Plymouth DOCK
by m p griffiths , Sunday, August 29, 2010, 19:17 (5205 days ago) @ normalkiwi
'Looking for info on family of William Nicholson ..... would be grateful for any info'
On later Census, William c 1806 and his sister Sarah c 1802
1881 Census, Newland
William NICHOLSON - 75 - Retired Baptist Miner, born Devon, Plymouth Dock
Mary C NICHOLSON -67 - Derbyshire, Fairfield, Buxton
Sarah NICHOLSON, Sister, unmarried age 78, born Devon, Plymouth Dock
IGI Batch Numbers for Devon,
Liberty Street - Now Pembroke Street - Baptist, Plymouth DOCK (various NICHOLSON christenings) including children of
William & Sarah NICHOLSON
Sarah - 12 June 1802
Joseph - 9 November 1803
William - 14 August 1805
This family is well documented on Ancestry Public Member Family Tree - going back to John NICHOLSON, 1670 Port au Pugh, Scotland
Nicholson - Plymouth Dock
by normalkiwi , Monday, August 30, 2010, 12:52 (5204 days ago) @ m p griffiths
The McKay/Rose Public Family Tree has Martha Nicholson deceased in 1837, but no detail. Is there another that I should be looking for?
Many thanks
Sue
Nicholson - 1841 census
by m p griffiths , Monday, August 30, 2010, 13:08 (5204 days ago) @ normalkiwi
FreeBDM - have two Martha NICHOLSON deaths in Monmouth in 1837
J/A/S Qtr 1837
O/N/D Qtr 1837
Is this possibly???? Sarah NICHOLSON, sister, with her parents William & Sarah + Niece and Nephew, William & Eliza (the ages/names match quite well...)
1841 Census, Northumberland, St John St Nicholas
Clayton Street
Sarah NICHOLSON - age 35 c1806 - Schoolmistress - not born in County
William NICHOLSON - age 65 - Independent - not born in County
Sarah NICHOLSON - age 65 - not born in County
William NICHOLSON - age 6 - not born in County
Eliza NICHOLSON - age 5 - not born in County
Nicholson - 1841 census
by normalkiwi , Friday, September 03, 2010, 12:53 (5200 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Yes, it looks as though you could be right! So, by 1841, William is married again, to Ann, & already postmaster at Coleford. But children from first marriage to Martha, (Eliza & William), are not shown there. Sarah (sister of William the postmaster) later moves to Coleford & the children are back with their father again in 1851. In 1861 Eliza is married. Sarah stays with William & Ann (then Mary, his 3rd wife) until 1881 census.
I had the deaths of the 2 Marthas, was thinking that they may be related to childbirth. The frustrating thing was not to be able to get ages or find burial records. At that time William & his family seemed to be very active in establishing the Baptist Church in Lydney etc. And still can't find death/burial record for Ann.
Now that it seems to be adding up, will put ordering death certs for the Marthas on my list.
Many thanks for putting the pieces together
Sue
NICHOLSON
by m p griffiths , Friday, September 03, 2010, 13:33 (5200 days ago) @ normalkiwi
William Nicholson is in the Correct District District 2 i.e. Whitehall) on the 1881 census
'Part of the Civil Parish of Newland in the Tything of Coleford, comprised in High Street, Cinder Hill, Pingrey Lane, Bricknock Court, Tufthorn Lane, Milkwall, Edenwall/Upper & Lower) Coalway Lane End, Whitehall, Lord's Hill, Coalway Road and Market Place'
Looking at the Probate Records on Ancestry
William NICHOLSON - died 19 December 1881 - Probate Year 1882 (21 September)
The Will with a Codicil of William NICHOLSON late of Higher Lord's Hill, Coleford in the County of Gloucester who died 19 December 1881 at Coleford, was proved at Gloucester by Thomas NICHOLSON of Yorkley in the said County, Gentleman and Benjamin Wilmot PROVIS, Draper and Betram Herbert Taylor, Ironmonger, both of Coleford and Executors.
Personal Estate £1,270
Thomas NICHOLSON is a Widower age 75, born Coleford, Baptist Minster, on the 1881 census
As a Codicil is an alteration or a condition to a Will - wonder whether the two Wills of a William NICHOLSON in 1835 and 1836 (non-conformist) Newland on the Gloucestershire Genealogical Database - belong to William NICHOLSON, the Baptist Minister after the birth of his two children.
Hopewell in Wimberry (Thomas & William NICHOLSON) - William NICHOLSON mentioned 15 January 1846