Fanny and Alice Louise CAPENER

Has anyone any information on a Fanny Capener and Alice Louise Capener

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Context please.

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A relative of mine, Gilbert Capener, is looking for his paternal granfather. He has the name of Fanny as his father's sister and Alice Louise as his father's mother. He doesnt have the name of his father's father. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Debbie

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We have discussed this family for you in the past in the following thread.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5392

What specific information are you seeking?
Providing us with some dates and location of the people always helps.
See → Posting Guidelines

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A Gilbert Capener born 1930 does not know who his paternal granfather is. His father is either Elias or Edward capener (B1877. He seems to have 2 names for his father which is where a lot of the confusion is. He was told his aunt Fanny capener was his dad's sister - she was possibly born in dursley workhouse 1888. He thinks if he can find her, then he might be able to find out who his grandfather is.

Debbie

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Not sure if this has come up in this link before..... but on the Cinderford 2 photographs (page 33 or 50) on this site is Gladys CAPENER, marrying Hubert BRAKE in 1922 - with the Bride's Father, George CAPENER (Safety Officer at one of the mines) + mother Bessie and brother Raymond CAPENER.

This census information is on a previous thread......

1891 Census, North Nibley

Millend

CAPENER

Thomas - Head - 47, Agricultural Labourer, born Gloucestershire, Sandhurst
William - Son - 28 - Under Gardener - born Gloucestershire, Cam
Louisa Alice - daughter - age 19, born Cam
Charles - Son - age 11 - born North Nibley
Arthur R - Son - age 9 - Scholar, born Glos. Stinchcombe
Ernest - Son - 7 - born Stinchcombe
Fanny - Gr. Dau - age 2 - born Dursley

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thank you for your reply, however Gilbert says his father was called Christopher - all very confusing....and that Fanny went on to marry a Mr Tyler in Kingston Surry in 1919? Any more info?

Debbie

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On Ancestry

National Probate Calender

CAPENER: George Christopher of 94 High Street, Cinderford, Glos. died September 1933 at the Royal Infirmary, Gloucester.
Adminstration: Gloucester 17 October to Bessie CAPENER - Widow. Effects £257 6s.4d.

Which are the names on the wedding photo on FOD

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ah yes, but i put those photos on the site. George Christopher is my great grandfather, and Bessie my great grandmother - so no joy there - thank you though.

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If your Gilbert CAPENER was born J/F/M Qtr 1930 - Hammersmith, London, mother's maiden name BATTS -

and Christopher C CAPENER (died 1959 age 56 in Hammersmith)- married Violet A. BATTS - September 1928, Hammersmith -

One birth of a Christopher C CAPENER (FreeBDM) J/F/M Merthyr Tydfil (District) 1903

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Francis Gilbert CAPENER (+ his military service on Ancestry)
Reg. No. 9289
3rd Gloucester Infantry
discharged 13 May 1919 (Malaria) and transferred to Reserves

worked for Harry LISTER, Long St. Dursley (General Labourer)

Heigh 5 feet - 6 and a quarter inch (weight 114 lbs)

Home address

31 Council Buildings, Dursley

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War records

Edward CAPENER - born North Nibley
died 11 March 1917
Mesopotamia
of Wounds

Son of William CAPENER, husband of Annie E CAPENER - 11 Mercy Place, Southgate Street, Glos.

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Yes, his mother's maiden name was Violet Batts. So that is the correct one at last! Gilberts relations lived in teh forest of dean and he said that Fanny, his father's sister was born in the workhouse in Dursley. I will let Gilbert know that hsi father was born in Merthyr because he hardly knows anything about him. thank you very much.

Debbie

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seems to "fit" some of the names and places that you describe. there are variances - not unusual ! ( and links back to my original responses http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5392 )

Looks like Thomas with a mix of children / grandchildren....

1911
INSTITUTION CAPENER THOMAS M 1845 66 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER ANNIE F 1901 10 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER CHRISTOPHER M 1901 10 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER CLARA F 1905 6 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER GILBERT M 1900 11 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER MARY F 1898 13 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER PERCY M 1903 8 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION CAPENER RICHARD M 1897 14 Dursley Gloucestershire
INSTITUTION JAMES FREDERICK M 1909 2 Dursley Gloucestershire
plus others

I wonder if this is Clara "Capener" - servant Jane JAMES in 1901
Name: Clara James
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 693

1911
CAPENER EDWARD M 1879 32 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire
CAPENER DOROTHY F 1898 13 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire
CAPENER ANNIE F 1877 34 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire
CAPENER CHARLES M 1905 6 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire
CAPENER HELEN F 1910 1 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire
CAPENER WILLIAM M 1902 9 Wheatenhurst Gloucestershire

1901 New Inn
Edward Capener abt 1878 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head Painswick, Gloucestershire
Annie Capener abt 1875 Cenderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Painswick, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Capener abt 1898 Cenderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Painswick, Gloucestershire
Louisa Capener abt 1872 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Painswick, Gloucestershire
Charly Capener abt 1896 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Painswick, Gloucestershire

1901
Thomas Capener abt 1846 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Head Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Fanny Capener abt 1895 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Arthur Capener abt 1896 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Mary Capener abt 1897 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Gilbert Capener abt 1898 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Anne Capener abt 1899 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Percy Capener abt 1900 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Frank Capener abt 1892 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Kingswood, Gloucestershire
Jane James abt 1866 Marshfield, Gloucestershire, England Servant Kingswood, Gloucestershire

Name: Percy Capener
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 265

Name: Gilbert Capener
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 218

Name: Francis Gilbert Capener
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 236b

1891
Edward Capenor abt 1876 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Servant Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire

1891
Thomas Capener abt 1844 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Head North Nibley, Gloucestershire
William Capener abt 1863 Cambridgeshire, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Louisa Alice Capener abt 1872 Cambridgeshire, Gloucestershire, England Daughter North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Charles Capener abt 1880 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Arthur R Capener abt 1882 Stinchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Ernest Capener abt 1884 Stinchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Fanny Capener abt 1888 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter North Nibley, Gloucestershire

Name: Fanny Capener
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 227

1881
Thomas Capener abt 1845 Sound Ress, Gloucestershire, England Head North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Fanny Capener abt 1854 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Wife North Nibley, Gloucestershire
William Capener abt 1868 Cam, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Louisa A. Capener abt 1871 Cam, Gloucestershire, England Daughter North Nibley, Gloucestershire
George Capener abt 1874 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Edward Capener abt 1877 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Charles Capener abt 1879 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire

Name: Edward Capener
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 246

1871 Cam nr Dursley
Thomas Carpenter 26
Fanny Carpenter 21
William Carpenter 3

1861
Thomas Capener abt 1860 Santers, Gloucestershire, England Servant Eastington, Gloucestershire

1851
Comfort Capener abt 1818 Elmore, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Sandhurst, Gloucestershire
Thomas Capener abt 1845 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Sandhurst, Gloucestershire

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An obituary for Edward CAPENER was printed in the Dean Forest Mercury 1917, exact date not known, which read "Private Edward Capener, also of the Gloucestershire Regiment, has died from wounds at one of the fronts. He was born at North Nibley 40 years ago, but had resided in Cinderford from the age of 12 till about 10 years ago working as a collier at Crump Meadow Colliery. He had since lived at Frampton. Volunteering for his country's service in May 1915...."

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Yes, the Edward Capener mentioned in the Obituary was from my family line and not Gilbert's apparently.

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Name: Fanny Capener
Spouse : James E M Tyler
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919
Registration district: Kingston
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1295

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Yes this is the Fanny Capener we are looking for. Is there any way we can find out who her father is?

thanks very much

Debbie

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Is it on the marriage cert ?

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this is where it gets confusing - His Aunt Fanny's marriage certificate states her father to be Edward Capener who was a farmer. However his father's marriage certificate shows an Elias Capener. Gilbert says his father said his family's livelihood was farming and that there was a family who lived next door to them called Pick in North Nibley.

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in 1881 next door to Thomas & Fanny CAPENER http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=27323

Edward Pick abt 1821 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Mary Pick abt 1831 Kingswood, Gloucestershire, England Wife North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Edward Pick abt 1861 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire

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thank you slowhands

i have sent Gilbert the info and see what he says.

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