Baptism of Edwin John WILLIAMS 1880 - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

I have located the Marriage and Death of the named above but can't find an entry for his birth / baptism...I think it was around 1880 and would like to clarify his mothers maiden name from certificate..Any ideas on a quick way to get details. Think she was an Elizabeth Watkins who married Edwin Williams but can't find any ref to that either..
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sarah

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Birth: March Qtr 1880, Edwin John WILLIAMS - Monmouth Vol: 11a - Page 18

Elizabeth Christiana WATKINS - 8 October 1865, Lydbrook, parents Giles (Blacksmith) & Susannah - this seems to be the only baptism of children - parents Giles & Susannah WATKINS

FOD records - marriage 8 October 1854 - Lydbrook

Giles WATKINS age 24 (Bachelor) Blacksmith of Lydbrook
father: William WATKINS (Smith)
married
Susannna CULLEY age 23 (Spinster) of Lydbrook
father : John CULLEY (labourer)
witnesses: William WATKINS and Sarah CULLEY

1851 Census - Newland

William WATKINS - 52 - Blacksmith - born Herefordshire
Mary WATKINS - 47 - Gloucester
Charlott WATKINS - 27 - born Lydbrook
Giles WATKINS - 21 -Blacksmith - born Monmouth
Tom WATKINS - 12 - born Monmouth
Mark WATKINS - 9 - born Monmouth

1861 Census - English Bicknor
Lydbook

Giles WATKINS - 30 - Blacksmith, born Monmouth
Susanah WATKINS - 29 - born Lydbrook
William WATKINS - 6 born Lydbrook
Edwin J WATKINS - 3 - born Lydbrook
Mary Ann WATKINS - 1 - born Lydbrook

(no luck so far finding Giles WATKINS and family 1871 census)

1881 Census, English Bicknor
Lydbrook

Edwin WILLIAMS - 41 - Coalminer, born Monmouth
Elizabeth WILLIAMS - 39 - Dressmaker, born Glos. Lydbrook c 1842
Edwin John WILLIAMS - 1 - born Lydbrook

1891 Census East Dean

Giles WATKINS - 60 Blacksmith - born Monmouth
Susana WATKINS - 58 - born Lydbrook
Edwin WILLIAMS - brother-in-law - age 53 Coalminer, born Monmouth
Elizabeth WILLIAMS - 49 - born Lydbrook
Edwin John WILLIAMS - age 11 - born Lydbrook
Joseph CRISP - Grandson age 13 - born Lydbrook

1901 Census, East Dean
Well Tump

Edwin WILLIAMS - 63, Collier Labourer, born East Dean
Elizabeth WILLIAMS - 58 - all born East Dean
Edwin J WILLIAMS - Son, 21 Stationary Engine Stoker
Susan WATKINS - 68 - in law -
John WATKINS - 39 Son General Labourer

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Elizabeth was a CULLEY - (as was Susanna WATKINS - nee CULLEY) and they are sisters

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Ross - J/A/S Qtr 1879 - Vol 6a Page 814

Elizabeth CULLEY married Edwin WILLIAMS

1871 Census, Lydbrook

Elizabeth CULLEY - 69 - born Glos. Saul
William CULLEY - son - unmarried- 39 - Colliery Labourer, born English Bicknor
Sarah CULLEY - daughter - unmarried - born English Bicknor
Elizabeth CULLEY - daughter - unmarried - age 29 - born English Bicknor (ages ties up with 1881 census)
William WATKINS - Grandson - age 16
Thomas WATKINS - Grandson - age 13

1861 Census. Glos Ruardean, Lydbrook

Sarah LUGG - 65 - Servant's wife, born Monmouth, Trastrey?
Elizabeth CULLEY - Visitor - unmarried, age 19, Tin Plae Leower? - born English Bicknor

1851 Census, English Bicknor, Drybrook

John CULLEY - 57 - Shearer, born Oxenhall
Elizabeth CULLEY - 50 ditto
William CULLEY - 21 - all born E.B.
Susanah - 20
John - 18
Sarah - 16
Elizabeth - 9

1841 Census, Bicknor English
Lydbrook

listed as CALLEY

John CULLEY - 40, Tin Factory - all born in County
Elizabeth - 40
William - 11
Susan - 10
John - 8
Sarah - 6
Elizabeth - 4 days

FOD recordsABENHALL marriage.

John CULLEY - of Hundred of St Briavels, married Elizabeth DYKE - of Hundred of St Briavels - Abenhall - 25 October1828
with consent of friends- witnesses: Samuel DYKE and Elois DYKE

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I am now a bit confused..Was she Elizabeth Culley or Watkins?? She is listed in 1911 census as the head of the household and her sister Susannah Watkins?

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In previous message : 1841 census + Susanna CULLEY and Elizabeth CULLEY's marriages.

Susan (Susanna) CULLEY - is aged 10 - married Giles WATKINS, -..... FOD records, Susanna CULLEY married Giles WATKINS - 1854 Lydbrook

and her sister Elizabeth CULLEY is 4 days - although Elizabeth 'chops'a few years off her year of birth. ........Elizabeth CULLEY married Edwin WILLIAMS. Ross District J/A/S Qtr 1869

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(no luck so far finding Giles WATKINS and family 1871 census)

Year: 1829
Month: Nov
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: WATKINS
Child_Forenames: Giles
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Monmouth Forge
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: Richd Davies Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AM2/4
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Dixton

1841 Monmouth Forge
William Watkins abt 1801 Monmouth, Monmouthshire Blacksmith
Henry Watkins abt 1806 Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary Watkins abt 1811 Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Sarah Watkins abt 1828 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Giles Watkins abt 1831 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Ann Watkins abt 1833 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Thomas Watkins abt 1838 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Martha Watkins abt 1839 Monmouth, Monmouthshire

1871 Lower Lydbrook
John Watkins 40 Mommouth Blacksmith
Susanna Watkins 39 Eng Bicknor
John Watkins 10 Eng Bicknor
Elizabeth Watkins 6 Eng Bicknor

1881
Giles Watkins abt 1832 Monmouth, Wales Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Susan Watkins abt 1833 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Watkins abt 1858 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Watkins abt 1866 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
John Watkins abt 1862 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1901
John Crisp abt 1857 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Graig, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Crisp abt 1867 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Graig, Monmouthshire
Joseph Crisp abt 1879 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Graig, Monmouthshire
Ethel Crisp abt 1892 Rhiwderin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Graig, Monmouthshire
Ada Crisp abt 1896 Rhiwderin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Graig, Monmouthshire
Arold Crisp abt 1899 Rhiwderin, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Graig, Monmouthshire
Giles Watkins abt 1831 Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales Father-in-Law Graig, Monmouthshire
Oliven Watkins abt 1880 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Graig, Monmouthshire

Year: 1907
Month: Oct
Day: 4
Surname: WATKINS
Forenames: Giles
Residence: Lydbrook Hill nr. Lydbrook
Age_at_death: 77
Officiating_Minister: C.F.Doddrell Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: from 1813
Page_No: 194
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

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Year: 1865
Month: Oct
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: WATKINS
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Christiana
Fathers_Forenames: Giles
Mothers_Forenames: Susannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lydbrook
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: L [illegible]ington
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 20811
Page_Number: 51
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

Name: Mary A Whatkins
Name: John Dyke Crisp
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 63

Year: 1877
Month: Jul
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: CRISP
Child_Forenames: Joseph William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lydbrook
Occupation: Wire Roller
Officiating_Minister: H T Hoitt
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 20811
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

1881 Worrall Hill Lydbrook
John Crisp abt 1855 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary A. Crisp abt 1858 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph W. Crisp abt 1878 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah W. Crisp Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1884
Month: Jun
Day: 14
Surname: CRISP
Forenames: Mary Ann Lewis
Residence: Worrall Hill Lydbrook
Age_at_death: 25 years
Officiating_Minister: H. T. Hoitt Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/11
Page_No: 96
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

Name: John Dyke Crisp
Name: Elizabeth Christianna Watkins
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 372

1891
John Dyke Crisp abt 1856 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Graig, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Crisp abt 1866 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Graig, Monmouthshire
Sarah Eunice Crisp abt 1881 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Graig, Monmouthshire

1911
CRISP JOHN M 1868 43 Newport Monmouthshire
CRISP ELIZABETH F 1873 38 Newport Monmouthshire
CRISP ETHEL ELIZABETH F 1893 18 Newport Monmouthshire
CRISP AD LOUISA F 1896 15 Newport Monmouthshire
CRISP HAROLD COURTENEY M 1900 11 Newport Monmouthshire

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