Grosvenors in the Forest (General)
I'm researching my family history and would welcome any information about my Grandfather John R Grosvenor and his father James who both lived in Longhope from around 1840. John lived ib Parish Mill in 1901 but it is not the current Parish Mill. Where was it?
Grosvenors in the Forest
by m p griffiths 
, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 22:21 (5152 days ago) @ philgro
John R GROSVENOR - father James - of Longhope
Not complete..... but it's late!!!!
1901 Census, Gloucestershire, Longhope, District 7
'All that part of the Parish which lies on the west side of the Great Western Railway and also all that part of the parish which comprises the houses lying on the west side of the Velshouse ? Lane the village of Longhope, Fetchen ? Marshes Farm, Parish Mill Chestgrove, Bilburh?Farm, Bradley Grove Upper End, the cottages near to Blenheim House, Furnace Mill and all the houses within the above boundaries'
Parish Mill House
GROSVENOR
John - 53 - Woodturner - born, Gloucester, Bristol
Mary - 50 - born Newham
Leslie - 19 - all born Longhope
George - 17
Millie - 13
Gladys - 11
Harry - 9
Albert - 7
1891 Census. Glos. Longhope
Village Yew Tree Cottage
GROSVENOR
John R - 43 - (c1848) Wood Turner - born Bristol
Mary - 40 - born Bewdley Eath?
Martha - 14
Herbert E - 12
Leslie - 9
George - 7
Alice - 5
Milie - 3
Gladys - 1
1881 Census, Glos. Longhope
Yew Tree Cottage
GROSVENOR
John R - 33 - Wood Turner, born Glos. Bristol
Mary A - 30 - born Glos. Sudeley
James W - 9 - born Sudeley
Blanche K - 6 - born Longhope
Martha - 4 - born Longhope
Herbert E - 2 - born Longhope
1881 Census, Westbury on Severn
Soudley
GROSVENOR - James Snr.
James - 62 - Wood Turner, born Gloucester
Margaret - 68 - born Liskard, Cornwall
Joseph - unmarried Son, 28 - Iron Miner, born Bristol
James - unmarried Son, 25 - Coal Miner, born East Dean
Margaret GROSVENOR, Granddaughter - age 9, born East Dean
1851 Census, Gloucs. Bristol St Philip & St Jacob
GROSVENOR
James - 30 - Brush Turner. Glos
Margaret - 35 - born Cornwall, Liskerd
Elizabeth - 9 - Nursemaid - born Bristol
Ellen - 6 - born Bristol
John - 4 - born Bristol
Thomas - 1 - born Bristl
John Richard GROSVENER 1847 -1917 Bristol -> East Dean
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 07:13 (5152 days ago) @ philgro
Name: John R Grosvener
Death Registration Month/Year: 1917
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 218
Year: 1917
Month: Sep
Day: 22
Surname: GROSVENOR
Forenames: John Richard
Residence: Pound House Longhope
Age_at_death: 70
Officiating_Minister: Maurice Maltby Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11
Page_No: 88
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
photo of Pound House :-
http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/history/houses.asp
1911
GROSVENOR JOHN RICHARD M 1848 63 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR MARY F 1850 61 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR ALBERT M 1894 17 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR GEORGE M 1884 27 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR GLADYS F 1890 21 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR HARRY M 1892 19 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
GROSVENOR MARJORIE LILIAN F 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
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Year: 1871
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Grooms_Surname: GROVENER
Grooms_Forenames: John Richard
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Wood-Turner
Grooms_Residence: East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Grovener
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Wood Turner
Brides_Surname: TAYLOR
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Taylor
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Alfred Taylor
Witness_2: Ellen Parkyn Grovener
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Geo[rge] Al[exander] Allan Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 63
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
1871 Sewdley
James Grovenor 52 Wood Turner
Margaret Grovenor 56
John Grovenor 24
Elizabeth Grovenor 28
Hellen Grovenor 26
Joseph Grovenor 19
James Grovenor 15
Emily Grovenor 4
Rose Grovenor 1
1861 Saw Mills
James Grovenod abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Wood Turner
Margret Grovenod abt 1815 Cornwall, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Grovenod abt 1842 Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Grovenod abt 1845 Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Grovenod abt 1847 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Grovenod abt 1852 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Grovenod abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Name: John Richard Grovener
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 314
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James GROSVENER 1819 - 1906 & marriage in Bristol
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 08:00 (5152 days ago) @ slowhands
1841 ????
Issac Grovenor abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Margarett Grovenor abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Name: Peggy Parkyn
Name: James Grovenner
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 158
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Year: 1877
Month: Jul
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: GROVENOR
Child_Forenames: Margaret Martha
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Ellen Parkyn
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Soudley
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: Elias Edw[ar]d Tayett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: (Aged 5)
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 161
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
and
Year: 1906
Month: Sep
Day: 18
Surname: GROSVENOR
Forenames: James
Residence: Stone Cottage Bondley Near Newham
Age_at_death: 87
Officiating_Minister: George Barr
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11
Page_No: 75
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
1901
Ellen Jefferies abt 1849 Bristol Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Grosvenor abt 1819 Gloucestershire, England Father East Dean, Gloucestershire
Name: Peggy Grosvenor
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 78
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 177
Year: 1893
Month: Mar
Day: 25
Surname: GROSVENOR
Forenames: Peggy
Residence: Longhope
Age_at_death: 78
Officiating_Minister: EB Shekell Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/11
Page_No: 55
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
1891
James Grosvenor abt 1820 St Mary, Gloucestershire, England Head Longhope, Gloucestershire
Margaret Grosvenor abt 1814 Liskeard, Cornwall, England Wife Longhope, Gloucestershire
Annie G Grosvenor abt 1857 Beomrberron, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Longhope, Gloucestershire
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Parish Mill aka Longhope Corn Mill, Brimps Hill
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 07:26 (5152 days ago) @ philgro
Longhope Mill ( corn) :-
between Harts Barn and Brook Farm
http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=g&...
Parish Mill,
Monmouth Rd,
Longhope,
Gloucestershire
GL17 0QD
Old Parish Mill was built in 1649 and at that time there was already an existing building, believed to date from 1580,this was consequently used as the family living quarters by the miller.
The mill was one of the most important watermills in Gloucestershire in producing flour and continued to do so until the end of 1946. Henceforth it tragically became derelict.
Lord and Lady Hollingrove have rescued the 'sleeping beauty' and have painstakingly, transformed it into what it is today,a luxurious and comfortable family estate,oozing character and history.
Many historical pilgrims visit this important site and enjoy a glimpse into the history of the mill by viewing the mill wheel and internal workings, thankfully still intact today, nurtured to life again by Lord Andrew, a renowned historian.
Lord Andrew is happy to recount the legend of Prince Rupert of the Rhine,who was aided and abetted by supporters concealing him at the mill after the battle of Worcester. To enable him to escape repercussions after the battle, by Oliver Cromwell's troops.
It is also believed that the Duke of Monmouth commandeered flour from the mill,for his soldiers during the conflict with James II.
Old Parish Mill has allegedly taken part in many historical events over the centuries and it is a privilege to be able to visit this magical site,nurtured for future generations and imagine the famous footprints of history gone before
http://www.englishhomestays.co.uk/history.php
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Parish Mill Longhope - for sale
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 07:28 (5152 days ago) @ slowhands
Old Parish Mill for Sale
http://www.uk-property-finder.com/en-4/8%2Bbedroom%2Bdetached%2Bhouse%2Bfor%2Bsale%253A...
Old Parish Mill comprises a delightful and historic 4 Bedroom country residence dating back to c. 1649. Well appointed throughout, together with a luxurious detached 2 Bedroom holiday cottage, beautiful gardens and grounds, garaging, stabling and further pasture land, extending in all to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified). Old Parish Mill is situated approx 3/4 mile from the centre of . . .
Old Parish Mill comprises a delightful and historic 4 Bedroom country residence dating back to c. 1649. Well appointed throughout, together with a luxurious detached 2 Bedroom holiday cottage, beautiful gardens and grounds, garaging, stabling and further pasture land, extending in all to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified).
Old Parish Mill is situated approx 3/4 mile from the centre of Longhope, which provides a comprehensive range of local amenities. The property is convenient for a whole number of local and regional centres, including Monmouth (13 miles), Gloucester (12 miles), Ross - on - Wye (7 miles), Hereford (17 miles) and Cheltenham (16 miles). Easy access is gained to the A40/M50 giving excellent road links to the Midlands, South Wales and the West.
Outside: The property is approached via a gravelled driveway that sweeps around to an extensive car parking and turning area. Alongside both the main house and the cottage, the gardens to the property do form a very special feature, being extensively lawned and interspersed with mature trees and shrubs including pampas, eucalyptus and oak. To the far side is a bridge across the Hope Brook, leading to an additional garden area with Summer House and timber climbing frame. There is also a pleasant Orchard with pastureland beyond. Vegetable area. Stone faced Double Garage 23'5" x 14'10" (7. 14m x 4. 52m) with under - roof storage, personal access, up and over door, concreted floor. Additional level lawned area with tree lined surround and range of Stables 24'10" x 11'9" (7. 57m x 3. 58m) overall comprising two stables with kick panelling and hayrack, power, lighting and water, plus tack room. Additional level lawned area from there the driveway continues over a further bridge to the Pastureland which is situated largely at the rear of the property and we are informed that the property extends to approximately 5. 5 acres (to be verified). StreamGardenGarden. Garden. . Garden. . . GaragePasturelandStablesMain
HouseDirections: From Ross - on - Wye proceed north on the main A40 towards Gloucester. Continue for approx 5. 7 miles and upon reaching Longhope itself, turn right towards the village centre. Continue through the village and then upon reaching the old Monmouth road turn right. After a short distance the old Monmouth road leads to a T - junction with the A4136. At this point turn right towards Monmouth and continue for exactly 0. 3 miles where the entrance to the property can be found on the right hand side. Property Features 8 bedroomsDetached houseGarage for 1 car5 - 10 acres garden
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Parish Mill Longhope, & other watermills of Eastern FoD.
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, August 13, 2016, 20:23 (3031 days ago) @ slowhands
I meant to post to this old thread when it was still active, apologies for being so remiss.
Anyone researching the history of the many old mills of the eastern Forest should read this excellent article produced by the Gloucestershire Society for Industrial Archaeology. It shows that since medieval times there have been scores of water-powered mills and furnaces built to harness the power of streams feeding the Severn at Westbury, including Longhope Brook and it's tributaries.
http://www.gsia.org.uk/reprints/1974/gi197408.pdf
The map at the head of the article shows the old Longhope Parish Mill as number 10, located just where Slowhands described; later in the article the history of each numbered site is described in detail. Comparing this map and early Ordnance Survey maps against modern satellite imagery is an interesting exercise !
Google Earth images clearly show the old mill pond at nearby Harts Barn (Grist mills 8 and 9 on GSIA map), but the ponds at the Parish Mill have long been filled-in. However the line of trees between these sites shows the eastward course of the old mill-race streams which fed-them before joining the main Longhope Brook on it's southward route past Blaisdon to Westbury.
The Grist and Parish Mill are on this 1878 O.S. Map, lower R/H corner.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453097
The adjacent map shows the route of Longhope Brook thro' the village, past Furnace Mill etc.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453124
John GROSVENOR's parent - JAMES
by m p griffiths , Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:50 (5152 days ago) @ philgro
Baptisms at Gloucester St Mary De Crypt
James GROSVENOR - 18 January 1820 - parents: John (labourer) & Susannah
address: Gloucester - Sudbrook
Mary Ann GROSVENOR - 8 January 1818 - parents : as above
address: St Owen
Marriage at Gloucester St Nicholas - 25 August 1816
John GROSVENOR to Susanna BAICKNELL
? Death:
Susannah GROSVENOR age 84 c1791
J/F/M Qtr 1875
Clifton - Bristol
Susan GROSVENOR age 78 - is living with her Son William age 40 and his family on the 1871 census, St Philip and St Jacob, Clifton (born Worcester, Worcestershire)
1861 Census, Bristol St Philip & St Jacob
Gloster Road
GROVENOR - (sometimes on the census without the S)
William - 30 - Comb Maker, born Bristol St Philip & St Jacob
Esther - 27 - born ditto
James John - 7 - born Sheffield
Mary Ann - 3 - born Bristol St Philip & St Jacob
Harry - 1
Susan - mother - 57, Scripture ....des? born Worcester
1851 Census, Bristol St Philip & St Jacob
Susan GROSVENOR - Widow - age 58, Laundress, born Worcester
Eliza GROSVENOR - unmarried daughter - age 19, Dressmaker, born Bristol
1841 Census, St Philip & St Jacob, Laurence Hill
GROVENOR
John - 50 - Lab. born in County
Susannah - 50 - not born in County
William - 11 - born in County
Eliza - 9 - born in County
Joseph - 5 - born in County
I've sent an email via Ancestry Public Members Tree (Natasha) - who haven't got this above information and re your request