ALBERT EDWARD WILLIAMS B 1865 WOOLASTON - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

Looking for info regarding my great grandfather as detailed above. Only birth cert I could find of an Albert Edward Williams in Woolaston stated that the mother was ELIZABETH WILLIAMS but father was WILLIAM TAMPLIN a fisherman. Can find no record of Elizabeth ever marrying William Tamplin so wondered what the story was and if William did indeed stay Elizabeth and William stayed in Woolaston. Albert is found in the census for Wales in 1881 living with a GEORGE WILLIAMS who claims Albert is his son. Would like to know what happened to him between his birth and this time. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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1881 Census, Wales, Monmouthshire, Trevethin
Pentrepod

WILLIAMS

George - 42 - Coal Miner, born Woolaston c1839
Sarah - 36 - born Monmouth, Trevethin
Albert - 16 - born Gloucestershire, Woolaston

then a gap in ages of the children

Margaret - 9 - born Monmouthshire, Gardiffaith
George J - 6 - born ditto
William H - 3- born Pentrepod
Mary A - 1 month - born ditto

? 1871 Census, Wales, Monmouthshire, Trevethin

Margaret H MORGAN - Widow, age 63, Born Mon
James - son - unmarried age 40
William - son - 19
Francis - son - 17
George WILLIAMS, son-in-law age 35, born Gloucestershire *** no children yet of this marriage -
Sarah WILLIAMS - 32 - born Monmouthshire

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George WILLIAMS married Sarah MORGAN - A/M/J Qtr 1866 Pontypool District (which covers Trevethin)

1861 Census, Glos. Woollaston
Lower Hamlet - Page 19

Mary WILLIAMS - widow, 44, Farm Servant, born Bristol
Elizabeth - daughter, unmarried age 23 - born Woolaston (is this Albert's mother???)
George - son, unmarried, age 21, Ag. Lab- born Woolaston

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William TAMPLIN is aged 18 on the 1861 census for Woolaston, living with his unmarried mother Ann - and other siblings (approx 10 houses away from the WILLIAMS family)

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Hi, Thanks for all the info, this does concur with my thoughts. Does anyone have any info regarding William Tamplin who does indeed seem to be the father of Albert, if he did marry presumably his occupation would be on the marriage certificate?

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(previous reply - he was about 10 houses away on the 1861 census)

Woolaston
Lower Hamlet

Walter B HARRIS - Widower - 48 - Sail Maker (all born Woolaston)
Ann TAMPLIN - 40 - Mother
William TAMPLIN - 18 (labourer Ag,)
John TAMPLIN - 16 - Miller
Frederick TAMPLIN- 13 - labourer
Henry TAMPLIN - 11 - Scholar
Alma TAMPLIN - 6
Emily TAMPLIN - 4
Alfred TAMPLIN 1

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Name: Albert Edward Williams
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11A
Page: 13

Year: 1866
Month: Mar
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: Albert Edward
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Single woman
Officiating_Minister: Edward Salter Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 69
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

Does his mother marry :-
Year: 1865
Month: Feb
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: BAGGUS
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Mariner
Grooms_Residence: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Baggus
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: WILLIAMS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: Full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Williams
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Paper Maker
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark
Witness_1: George Smith
Witness_2: Mark of Harriet Batter
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Edward Salter Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 81
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

1861
William Williams abt 1811 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Head Woollaston, Gloucestershire Paper maker
Eliza Williams abt 1813 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1845 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire
William Williams abt 1850 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Fanny Williams abt 1854 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Alice Williams abt 1859 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire

<><><> probably not because the father of Elizabeth 1837 ish is George the Papermaker

1861
Margaret Williams abt 1817 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1838 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire
George Williams abt 1840 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire

1851 Woolaston
Margaret Williams 40 Papermakers widow Michel troy Monmouth
Esther Williams 18 Woollaston
James Williams 16 Woollaston
Elizabeth Williams 14 Woollaston
George Williams 10 Woollaston

1831 WILLIAMS Hester George Margaret Woolaston Paper Maker Woolaston
1833 WILLIAMS James George Margaret Woolaston Paper maker Woolaston
1840 WILLIAMS George George Margaret Woolaston Paper maker Woolaston

1841
George Williams abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire papermaker
Margaret Williams abt 1801 Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Esther Williams abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
James Williams abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
George Williams abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire

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Thanks slowhands, The birth record and baptism seem to tie in as I have the birth certificate stating Alberts father was William Tamplin, a fisherman, though don't know what happened from there. Know Albert went to live with his Uncle George Williams in Wales but wondered what happened to William Tamplin, if he did go onto marry and what happened to Elizabeth, did she marry and where did she end her days.
Thanks

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The family all went by the name of HARRIS in 1871 - Woolaston

Walter B HARRIS - 58 Master Sailmaker
Ann HARRIS - 50
Frederick HARRIS - 21 - Baker
Henry HARRIS - 18 - Fisherman
Alma HARRIS - 15 - Domestic Servant
Alfred HARRIS - 11
Sidney HARRIS - 9
Mary HARRIS - 3
William ROBBINS - Lodger, Wid - Form. Sail Maker

1881 Census, Glos. Woolaston

Netherend

Walter Barrow HARRIS - Head - Mar - 68, Sail Maker - born Glos. Woolaston
Ann HARRIS - wife - 61
Alfred HARRIS - son unmarried age 21 - Paper Maker
Sidney HARRIS - 19 - ditto
Mary HARRIS - daughter age 13

and next but one

William B HARRIS - Mar - 37 Fisherman, born Glos. Woolaston (William TAMPLIN)
Mary Ann HARRIS - wife - 39
Elizabeth E HARRIS - daughter - 12
Rosina HARRIS - 11
William B HARRIS- 9
Amelia HARRIS - 7
Lucy HARRIS - 5
Alma Ellen HARRIS - 6 month
Lucy COX - mother-in-law age 67 born Hewlesfield

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Hi there,thanks for all your info, this is very interesting with the sailmaking and fisherman occupation being a thread. Do you know if this kind of occupation was common at the time? It is also interesting to find that Albert did have half brothers and sisters, wonder whether they knew of their father's previous alliance?

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So close to the River Severn, there were many fishermen etc....

(tried to delete this as it is included in next message - won't allow me to do so....)

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Memorials at Woolaston

A16 - lists HUGHES/BARROW Sailmakers -

http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/GLS/Woolaston

Woolaston close to the River Severn -

1851 Census, Woolaston

Walter B HARRIS - 37 Sailmaker & Journeyman, born Woolaston
Ann TAMPLIN - Lodger, unmarried age 30 Housekeeper, born Woolaston
William TAMPLIN - 7
John TAMPLIN - 5
Frederick TAMPLIN 2

FOD records - christening

Walter Barrow HARRIS - 26 December 1814 - Woolaston, parents William (Sailmaker) and Mary

Anne TAMPLIN - 30 July 1820, parents Richard (Innkeeper) and Martha - Woolaston

1841 Census, Woolastone - Brookend

TAMPLEN (transcribed as)

Richard - 60 - Mason - born in County
Martha - 50 - not born in County
Amelia - 15 - born in County
John - 14
William - 11
William TAMPLEN - 55 - born in County

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