GRO Records -- William Clarke, death 1845 (General)

by mrsbruso @, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 00:10 (5115 days ago)

According to my Aunt, our family was in the Forest of Dean all the way back to the Domesday Book. While I had no reason to question her on this, it didn't occur to me to confirm the family line she was tracing was Clarke.

With the kind assistance of Slowhands I had numerous leads to follow up. One of them was a death for William Clarke. In the 1841 census he was living in Blakeney with two of his sons, Richard (20) and Henry (8). His wife, Elizabeth (nee Griffiths), and several other children were missing from the census and haven't been accounted for otherwise.

I was hoping the burial record Slowhands found for William Clarke would help confirm some of the info, and hopefully provide a few more leads. The FOD record shows a burial, in Awre, of William Clarke, age 70, on 3 January 1845. (Promising, it would explain why he's missing from the 1851 census). (Register Ref P 30 IN 1/10, page 119).

I sent for the death certificate from the GRO, and they say there is no record of this death, and they looked for a three year period without finding a record and therefore were cancelling the order and refunding my payment. I looked through the registration index and didn't meet with any success in locating the record on Ancestry UK either.

I seem to be stuck. Does anyone have any advice as to where I go from here? Or why the record wouldn't have been recorded? All of my leads appear to conclude at dead ends. Are there any Clarke or Griffith family members/researchers out there who have any information that would help jump start my research?

Thanks.

Sandra

GRO Records -- William CLARKE death 1845 Awre

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 06:37 (5115 days ago) @ mrsbruso

.... when tracing records between 1837 and 1874 bear in mind that from 1837 civil registration was voluntary, from 1874 it became mandatory.


I suspect its another of those frustrations for you . Sorry :-(

Thankfully you have the Parish record to work from !

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=28471

Year: 1845
Month: Jan
Day: 3
Surname: CLARK
Forenames: William
Residence: Forest of Dean
Age_at_death: 70
Officiating_Minister: J H Malpes Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P30 IN 1/10
Page_No: 119
Parish_Chapel: Awre

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GRO Records -- William CLARKE death 1845 Awre

by mrsbruso @, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 22:46 (5114 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks, Slowhands.

That was the record I was trying to confirm . . . I was hoping the official record would have a bit of info that would help me confirm William's birthdate and that I was on the right track going back to the next generation.

The other catch is that the parish records give me too many options for Elizabeth Griffiths, William's wife. I still haven't been able to discount more than one of the four Elizabeth Griffith's that could have been William's wife.

So I think I'm temporarily on hold in 1805 for the solid details, although I think the leads you found for the prior generation are likely the right folks. (Given the Richard Stephens/Richard Steven Clarke connection.)

I am still waiting for the rest of the certificates I ordered, and hopefully they will provide a few more pieces of the puzzle.

My aunt knew all of this -- but she died when I was 16 and although I remember some of the things she told me I wish I'd committed more of it to paper back then. There's no one from that generation left to ask.

Thanks for all your help.

There's no one from that generation left to ask

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, November 28, 2010, 07:56 (5114 days ago) @ mrsbruso

My aunt knew all of this -- but she died when I was 16 and although I remember some of the things she told me I wish I'd committed more of it to paper back then. There's no one from that generation left to ask.

I suspect a significant number of us empathise with this statement :-)

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There's no one from that generation left to ask

by mrsbruso @, Thursday, December 30, 2010, 19:27 (5082 days ago) @ slowhands

Just received the certified marriage certificate for Richard Stephen Clark(e) and Sarah Ann Vining (1 December 1849) and William Clarke's occupation is listed as deceased, so I think I'm going to hang my hat on the 1845 death as being the correct William. (Now if only I could account for Elizabeth and some of the younger children . . .apparently that's a mystery for 2011 . . . )

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