James Brown 1842/43 - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

James Brown married Frances Phipps at Parkend 17 Jan 1864. His father James was a collier. James was 21 when he married Frances and I'm trying to sort out who his parents were.

There are two possible baptisms on this site:

1. James, son of James and Eliza of Forest, a labourer, baptised 13 Sep 1842 at Coleford
James Brown married Eliza Phipps at Newland 24 Dec 1834

2. James, son of James and Margaret of Bream, a collier, baptised I Jan 1843 at Newland
James Brown married Margaret Phipps at Newland 20 Nov 1841

So which of these combinations were parents of James?? Neither birth appears on FreeBMD

I'm inclined towards James and Margaret as James snr was a collier at the time of his son's marriage to Frances

Any suggestions would be gratefully received!!

Regards
Anne

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I'm inclined towards James and Margaret

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=24537

Name: James Brown
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 71

Year: 1843
Month: Jan
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: BROWN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bream
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 71
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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Thanks Slowhands

I didn't have the details of the 1861 census with Emily and Annise as Margaret's daughters. I wonder who their father was as James was buried at Bream 11 Aug 1848 age 27. Margaret married George Wintle at Newnham 15 Oct 1866.
Do you have details of Margaret in 1871 by any chance?

Regards
Anne

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Year: 1820
Month: Aug
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: PHIPPS
Child_Forenames: Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Quarry Man
Officiating_Minister: Hen. G. Poole Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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Year: 1866
Month: Oct
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: WINTLE
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: full
Groom_Condition: widower
Grooms_Occupation: labourer
Grooms_Residence: Newnham
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Wintle
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Brides_Surname: BROWN
Brides_Forenames: Margaret
Brides_Age: full
Brides_Condition: widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newnham
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Phipps
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Edward Roberts
Witness_2: Mary Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: E.C.Brice perp. curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Full and Newnham centred in box
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 183
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

1871
George Wintle 66
Margrate Wintle 50
Henry Hewlett 11 Months
William Ruck

1881
Margaret Wintle abt 1821 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Henry Hewlett abt 1871 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1886
Month: May
Day: 30
Surname: WINTLE
Forenames: Margaret
Residence: Lydney Lane
Age_at_death: 66
Officiating_Minister: H. Barker
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/17
Page_No: 154
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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Thanks again Slowhands!

Henry Hewlett was the son of Thomas Hewlett and Sarah Morse. Henry was baptised at Bream 5 Jun 1870, his mother Sarah had been buried at Bream 2 Jun 1870. Thomas Hewlett remarried 9 Jul 1871 age 41 to Harriet Knight age 24.

It looks like Margaret and George Wintle brought Henry up from being a baby. I haven't found Henry after 1881.

Regards
Anne

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A contender

1891 Bream Eaves
James Shingles abt 1831 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Shingles abt 1836 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Shingles abt 1866 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sidney Shingles abt 1870 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Shingles abt 1881 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Hewlett abt 1870 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1884
Month: Jan
Day: 12
Surname: HEWLETT
Forenames: Henry
Residence: Aylburton
Age_at_death: 14
Officiating_Minister: R.Stevens
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/13
Page_No: 14
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Year: 1870
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: HEWLETT
Child_Forenames: Henry
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lydney Lane
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: J. F. Gosling
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Sponsors Thomas Hewlett Snr. Thomas Hewlett Jnr. Anise Hewlett Jane Hewlett
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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