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I am Rudi SELBY LIGTHERT, formerly of EVESHAM I now live in LYDBROOK.
My grandmother Janet WILLIAMS of the line from Richard WILLIAMS and Hannah READ married St Braivels 24.10.1794.
I hve seen in the blogs reference to Enoch SELBY, brother of Elizabeth SELBY b.1849/d.4.03.1936 who married Thomas WILLIAMS b.28.09.1851/d.26.05.1928.
Elizabeth SELBY was a daughter of SHADRACH SELBY (mason) seen on old photo on this site of Hewlesfield SELBY and HILL families. Shadrach SELBY is mentioned on the marriage certificate of Elizabeth and Thomas Williams at Hewlesfield Church 06.08.1875. The name Enoch reappears as Allen Enoch WILLIAMS bap ST B.20.04.1889, son of Thomas and Elizabeth. Enoch SELBY was therefore his uncle
Thomas and Elizabeth also had more daughters than shown in the Forest Parish Records, these were
1.Janet WILLIAMS my granmother.
2.Nellie WILLIAMS, married ? Jones, policeman in Blackwood Wales.
3.Nancy WILLIAMS (m.? HAWKINS>Marion HAWKINS mother of Nigel BYRD, remarried Harry ROWLANDS with Edwin and Elizabeth ROWLANDS of St B. resulting.
4.Emma Williams who married Frank TIMBREL (IL?) of Cheltenham who worked at NORMAN PRINTERS in Cheltenhan. (no children)
These St Braivels WILLIAMS worked at what is now LINDORS HOTEL and lived in MORK VILLA, MORK HOUSE and THE FENCE a road in Mork by LINDORS.
Thomas WILLIAMS 1851 looked after the electrical generator and batteries at LINDORS.
I am a little concerned as to the link of Richard WILLIAMS (who married Hannah READ in 1794) to his possible fore-fathers back to Richard WILLIAMS and Jane NICHOLAS (or NICHOLSON)as Richard WILLIAMS 1687 (married Rachel ROBERTS 1715) St Braivels has MARY not JANE as his mother at his baptism at St B. Perhaps someone can clarify how this appears in the WILLIAMS family tree with boxes shown in archives on this site. Whoever posted this I can fill in the dates and more information from Elizabeth and Richard's time.
I see a blog from someone in Somerset ref to SELBY family and also see photos from Sheila SELBY, perhaps they can add more to this thread or make contact?

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Hi Rudi

I am the Sheila Selby you refer to. I do not know too much about the Williams family but I can point you to a man who does! Peter Williams now lives in New Zealand and is related to Emma Elizabeth Selby who married William Gatfield, from Mork Villas. I will e-mail him in case he does not see your post. My husband is the great grandson of Enoch Selby and I have done the Selby family history so I can let you have any information you require. I will e-mail you privately when I have time to look more closely at your message.

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It is a bit early in the morning and I have just realised you are referring to another part of the Selby family. Elizabeth did marry Thomas Williams. I am not sure whether they are related to Peter Williams family but I have e-mailed him and no doubt he will sort it out. I can see your Janet Williams in my research born in 1891 but I have done no further research on her yet. I do not have any contacts with this part of the Selby family so I will be able to pick your brain! Sorry about misinformation in first reply. I see you live in Lydbrook. The last remaining person of our part of the Selby family still living in the Forest also lives in Lydbrook. I will be in contact again later.

Sheila

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Hello Sheila.
Thank you for the quick reply! I can give you have the family to present date for Janet Williams. My mother AUDREY, her daughter is still alive and assists with info. I am still confirming research to my father RUDOLF (RUDI) AUGUST LIGTHERT and somehow got deep into my mothers family WILLIAMS last winter. To be honest I am in the middle of piles of papaers that need sorting and confirming. If I am a little slow with any replys it is because of this.
Refering to to EMMA ELIZABETH SELBY who married WILLIAM GATFIELD ,the link to MORK VILLAS and our WILLIAMS family in the same house I will enquire of my mother for any info regarding dates when they lived there.
Kindest Regards, Rudi.

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Rudi

I have sent you a private e-mail. Perhaps you can respond to me on that. Mork Villas refers to Elizabeth not to Emma Elizabeth - that was my mistake before I was properly awake this morning! The Gatfields lived opposite the church in St Briavels. I think Mork is just round the corner - I remember seeing a road sign when we were last there.

Sheila

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Mork and Mork Hill are just to the North of St Briavels village, on the road leading down to Bigsweir

Lindors Country House is "on" Mork Road
http://www.christianguild.co.uk/lindors/history.php

In the horseshoe valley below St. Briavels village a place called Lindhurst was settled by 1310, (fn. 33) and in 1608 apparently comprised a number of dwellings. (fn. 34) Later there was only a single farmstead, the name of which by the 19th century was corrupted to Lindors Farm. (fn. 35) Further north a hamlet called Mork, of which little survived by the 20th century, grew up on the Bigsweir-Stowe road around the junction with the old road descending from St. Briavels village through Allen's grove. By the mid 14th century it had three or more houses, a mill, and a roadside chapel, (fn. 36) and in 1608 it comprised c. 13 small dwellings, most of them grouped loosely around a green on the Stowe road east of the junction. (fn. 37) A farmhouse called Mork Farm below the junction belonged during the 17th and 18th centuries to the Dale family, whose enlargement of their farm caused the disappearance of at least some of the other houses of the hamlet. (fn. 38) In 1846 the farm was bought by James White (d. 1871), a land agent of Coleford, who replaced the house with a large residence in an elaborate Tudor style, named Lindors, and formed a garden with an ornamental pond on Mork brook below. (fn. 39) A smaller house in a similar style, called Woodlands, was built nearby, on the north side of the road, c. 1850. (fn. 40) Further up the road to Stowe, where the road and the brook were crossed by the St. Briavels-Wyegate road, a settlement was established near another small green. In 1608, when the place was known as Mork Green, there were three or four houses there. (fn. 41) A farmhouse standing close to the road junction and known as Mork Farm by 1880 (fn. 42) apparently occupies the site of a dwelling recorded in 1376. (fn. 43) It is a gabled, stone building of the early 17th century, built on an L-shaped plan and entered beneath a newel-stair turret in the angle of its two ranges. Internally many of the original fittings survive. At the head of the valley St. Briavels included two farmhouses attached to the hamlet of Stowe, which is otherwise in Newland parish. Stowe Grange, on the south-east side of the road, is on the site of a medieval manor. (fn. 44) There was a farmhouse at Stowe Farm, further down the hill on the other side of the road, by 1608 when the farm belonged to the Clearwell estate; (fn. 45) in the late 17th century and until c. 1780 it was part of a scattered estate that the Foley family of Stoke Edith (Herefs.) owned in the parish. (fn. 46)

From: 'St. Briavels', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 247-271. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23262 Date accessed: 12 January 2011.

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Thanks Slowhands. I mine of information as always! Will have a look for Lindors and Mork next time we are in the area.

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I am a little concerned as to the link of Richard WILLIAMS (who married Hannah READ in 1794)

The chart referred to :-
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/downloads/Miscellaneous/Descendants_of_Richard_Williams_S...
suggests Richard is son of a Richard & Martha but no dates etc to help confirm this step.

Richard Williams and Hannah Read/Pead
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22439
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=16994
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22963

Year: 1794
Month: Oct
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: WILLIAMS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Parish of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PEAD
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Parish of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 14 21 28 Septemb
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: The mark of Wroth Evans
Witness_2: The mark of Rebecca Jones
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thoma]s Edmunds Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: In this record the surname of the bride was not clear so best guess given
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 41
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

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Name: Rudolf A Lightert
Spouse: Audrey B M Walker
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Registration district: Evesham
Registration county (inferred): Worcestershire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 281

Year: 1919
Month: May
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: WALKER
Grooms_Forenames: William George
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Ship's Carpenter
Grooms_Residence: Hardwicke Lodge Gloucester
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Walker
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farm Labourer
Brides_Surname: WILLIAMS
Brides_Forenames: Janet
Brides_Age: 28
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Mark Villa St. Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Williams
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Electrician
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Emma Selby Williams
Witness_2: Maude Elizabeth Constance
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Hayes Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

1911
WILLIAMS THOMAS M 1852 59 Chepstow Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS ELIZABETH F 1849 62 Chepstow Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS MAUDE F 1877 34 Chepstow Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS JANET F 1892 19 Chepstow Monmouthshire

1901
Thomas Williams abt 1852 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1849 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Maude Williams abt 1877 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Ernest Williams abt 1883 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Ellen Williams abt 1885 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Myra Williams abt 1887 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Allen Williams abt 1889 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Janet Williams abt 1891 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavels, Gloucestershire

1891
Tomas Williams abt 1852 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1849 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Maud Williams abt 1877 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Annie Williams abt 1879 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Emma Williams abt 1881 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Ernest Williams abt 1883 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Ellen Williams abt 1885 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Myra Williams abt 1887 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Allan Williams abt 1889 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire

1881
Thomas Williams abt 1852 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head Lydney, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1849 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lydney, Gloucestershire
Maude E. Williams abt 1877 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Annie Williams abt 1879 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Emma S. Williams St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire

1871
Williams Williams 60
Mary A Williams 50
Ann Williams 27
Henry Williams 25
Thomas Williams 19
Alfred Williams 14

1861
William Williams abt 1811 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Williams abt 1803 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavel, Gloucestershire
William Hy Williams abt 1845 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
George Williams abt 1847 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Thomas Williams abt 1852 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Alfred Williams abt 1857 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire

1851
William Williams abt 1814 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Mary A Williams abt 1823 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Ann Williams abt 1843 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Briavels, Gloucestershire
William H Williams abt 1845 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavels, Gloucestershire
George Williams abt 1847 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavels, Gloucestershire
Thomas Addis abt 1824 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England St Briavels, Gloucestershire

1851 ???
Hanah Williams abt 1789 Hewersfield, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1841 St Briavels Common
Richd Williams abt 1781 St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire Ag Lab
Hanah Williams abt 1786 St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire
Richd Williams abt 1806 St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire
William Williams abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire
Joseph Williams abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire
Edwin Williams abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England St Briavells Common, Gloucestershire

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I wonder if this is either the correct Richard or one that the Richard / Martha "step" has been based on ?

Year: 1854
Month: Sep
Day: 13
Surname: WILLIAMS
Forenames: Richard
Residence: Chepstow
Age_at_death: 80 years
Officiating_Minister: John Kynaston
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/19
Page_No: 87
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

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The chart posted is one that I made and posted as I struggled to find all the connections and so when I finally had information I posted it to aid others...
Date wise I put everything I had though I may have since had more information, though I have a horrible feeling it may have been lost with the laptop that crashed over christmas - I will have a dig and a look through my folder and post an updated one if this would help?
As for the steps working back from Richard and Hannah Read I have had to rely heavily on information sent from other memebers of the family to build up from so I cannot back these links up with records - though I am working on it! The records seem to go a little hazy around this part of the tree for unknown reasons so bare with me!
Another note for a previous thread - Peter Williams is indeed linked to this tree, I was talking to him only two days about this very thread and a previous email someone has sent me about the Williams tree, he has told me when he gets the time he will have a look at this thread.
Alice

P.S. I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction of contact information for someone by the name of V Hagart? I recieved an email that I have been unable to respond to as of yet as I cannot for some reason respond to the email address that has been sent from!
Thanks!

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april 26th 2011. V (ictoria?) Hagart has posted on forum, regards, Rudi.

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I know many users of this site are interested in the many WILLIAMS of St Braivels.

Ref Hannah PEAD, wife of Richard WILLIAMS 1774(?) it has been unsure if surname was Pead or Read on their marriage record 22.10.1794. I am now sure it is PEAD.

Hannah PEAD, bap 16.12.1773 in Lydney as Hannah Hiet PEAD as 2nd base (illegitimate) child and 1st daughter of a Susannah Pead. This implies Hannah should have a brother and unless they were twins he would be older than Hannah but there seems no record of him. If a twin of Hannah he may have died at birth and no record exists.

Hannah's middle name spelt as Hiet (could be miss-spelt to hide father, ie;Hiat, Hyatt, Hiatt, Hiat, Hyett as all appear around Lydney) No other female record of PEAD with any derivations of Hiet or Susannah appears for 30 years prior to baptism of Hannah. I am sure this is correct Hannah as all dates/ages with her records tie to above info. Hannah WILLIAMS, buried ST B, 29.12.1850 aged 76. (was just 77)

The registrar was favourable to the mother of Hannah in another way> as the record indicates the mothers name has been expanded so the mother Susannah could actually be Ann, Anna, Susanna or similar. Only one record fits and that is Anne PEAD, born 1755 in Lydney who would have been 18yrs old at Hannahs birth. Anne PEAD, daughter of John and Anne PEAD (who had a previous daughter named Anne in 1753 who died soon after her birth)

Now Richard WILLIAMS husband of Hannah Pead. There is a record of his possible burial in St B 13.9.1854 aged 80 years so birth 1774. Only record that ties with this is Richard Williams, bap 2.3.1774, son of William and Elizabeth Williams of WOOLASTON not St B as all researchers inc me seemed to assume. This assumption comes from male christian names of Richard, William, Joseph and Thomas running through one line of St B Williams around this period. Some researchers have this Richard as born around 1782 but this means he married aged around 11 to 13 at most to Hannah who was then 21. If we assume Richard born 1774 Woolaston he would have been around 21yrs at his marriage, hinted from by marriage record (not listed a minor) plus the burial in 1854 I now have this Richard Williams not from St B but from Woolaston. !!!???
Refering to decendents tree in this sites docs named Decendents of Richard Williams while the names follow the dates shown seem incorrect and I can find no records to confirm it is correct so I am asking, has anyone out there have info to collaborate either of the above possible origins of Richard WILLIAMS husband of Hannah PEAD ???

Richard Williams and his son William Williams 1810 were Hoopmakers, these were not steel hoops but wood hoops used primarily for barrels and pails. The hoops were made of hazel or willow, split, steamed, curved on or inside a former and pinned thro a shallow chamfer. They could make 400 per day for 90 barrels that were used on sailing ships as barrels are strong,could be rolled up gang plank by one man and stood on end in hold. They did not have to be watertight as sugar, fruits, potatoes were shipped in them. Hoops were also used in ladies dresses and as hoop and stick toy. Hoop makers also made tool handles as a side line. There are at least 2 female dressmakers in this family WILLIAMS at this time. Hannah 1817 plus Hannah her mother.

I also have this William Williams 1810 possibly married aged 32 on 13.6.1842 to Mary Ann KEAR, a minor, so under 16, I think 14 or just 15. (at this time legal 1823 to 1929 for girls at 12 and boys at 14 to marry) but that will be a different thread at a later time !

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To re-cap the 1841 census St Briavells Common

Ricd WILLIAMS - Ag Lab - age 60 - not born in County
Hanah - 55 - not born in County
Ricd - 35 - not born in County
William - 30 - born in County
Joseph - 13 - born in County
Edwin - 7 - born in County

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1851 Census, Monmouthshire, Chepstow

Union Workhouse

(in order on census form)

Richard WILLIAMS - Widr - 80 - Ag. Lab. born Glos. St Briavels (c1771)
Christopher HULIN - 48 - House Painter, born Glos. St Briavels
Richard WILLIAMS (transcribed on Ancestry as WILLIAM) unmarried - 45 - born Glos. St Briavels

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FoD records

Burial at St Briavels - 23 June 1845

Hannah WILLIAMS - age 78 (Chepstow Union) c1767

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Thank you for the prompt reply and information. I think however that the information relates to another Williams family in St B.

At this period there were at least 4 if not 6 WILLIAMS families in St B. At least one of these families were headed by a Richard and Hannah and one family originated in Monmouthshire (Penallt?) and I think this may refer to that family, slightly older by 5 years or so who have confused me before!

We know for definite our Richard WILLIAMS married Hannah PEAD on 24.10.1794 at St B. Hannah PEAD born Lydney 1773, so in the County and they had sons
Richard 1796 who died approx 6 days later,
Joseph 15.4.1798,
Richard 12.9.1800, died 2 yrs later 20.10.1802, (so no Richard would have been in 1841 cencus)
John 2.1.1803,
George 4.4.1806
William 29.4.1810 (who I think married Mary Ann Kear who was only 13/14yrs old Thomas 5.4.1814 then a daughter,
Hannah 1817 (dressmaker) who married 20.4.1840 to George Edwards, labouer from Hudnalls.
These records from St B Parish records.
From the wedding of our Richard and Hannah PEAD we can trace with certainty by records to roots that have spread very wide in the Forest, surnames PRITCHARD, WORGAN,PAGE, CRUM, HART, JONES (Coleford), TIMBRELL, ADDIS, BIRD, ELSMORE, DOUGAN, NURSE, GATFIELD, CLACK, BEDNEY, JAMES, CROTE/CROAT, WHITE, SELBY to mention a few.

I am now however in doubt as to the correct burial at St B of our Richard as the record put the Richard in my initial post as residing Chepstow aged 80 so probably refers to the Richard of the family in your reply ref 1841 cencus. This is the dilema with the St B Williams!! All I can confirm is our Richards marriage to Hannah PEAD.
Perhaps now our Richard was a son of Richard WILLIAMS and Martha ? both born around 1756 and residing in St B/Hewelsfield/Mork area. I can find no records of these 2 or link our Richard to them, its all guesswork by reoccuring christian names.

Prior to this period a WILLIAMS link can be traced to Richard WILLIAMS and Jane NICOLAS married St B 24.6.1672. There seems a void in St B parish records around 1780 with several other persons who I know were born in St B around 1780 and have no records in Parish. If only they had put age of groom/bride on marriage records it would give a clue when they were born and age buried. I have worked on this Richard's birth/death dates for 8 years now and its one step foreward then one step back in increased confusion.

Any help from anyone out there would help, I suspect anyone with a Richard and Hannah WILLIAMS from St B should recheck if they have correct family. Its possible these WILLIAMS mostly relate from the Richard WILLIAMS and Jane NICHOLS/NICKOLSON/NICKOLAS married St B 1672 mentioned above but I am sure not all do!

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{starting to piece this together}

Name: Marion Hawkins
Spouse :Roy E Bird
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Registration district: Bridgend
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1575

Name: Marion E Hawkins
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Williams
District: Bridgend
County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1931

1911
HAWKINS HENRY M 1878 33 Pontypool Monmouthshire
HAWKINS ANNIE F 1879 32 Pontypool Monmouthshire
HAWKINS NORAH F 1905 6 Pontypool Monmouthshire

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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Hawkins Henry Charles Chepstow 11a 7
Williams Annie Chepstow 11a 7

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I am corresponding with Rudi privately but as regards the children of Elizabeth Selby and Thomas Williams, they were:

Maude Elizabeth Williams b June q 1876, Chepstow 11a 17
no baptism can be found in the Parish Records
m Roland Constance at St Briavels Church on 22.3.1913, March q 1913 Chepstow 11a 21
Roland's sister Maud married Alfred John Selby, son of Enoch.

Annie Williams b March q 1879, Chepstow 11a 3
no baptism can be found
m Henry Charles Hawkins at St Briavels Church on 24.4.1902, June q 1902, Chepstow 11a 7
Daughter Norah Maude b June q 1904, Chepstow 11A 12 (on 1911 Census)
Presume Marion Hawkins mentioned is their daughter as well.

Emma Selby Williams, June q 1880, Chepstow 11a 15
no baptism can be found
m Francis W Timbrell in Sept q 1927, Cheltenham 6A 103B

Ernest Thomas Williams, b Sept q 1882, Chepstow 11a 13
baptised on 16.7.1882 at St Briavels Church
possible burial on 6.11.1965 at St Briavels
Can't be found on the 1911 Census - can anyone help with this?

Ellen Sarah Williams, b Sept q 1885, Chepstow 11a 9
baptised 22.2.1885, St Briavels
Is this her marriage to a policeman called Jone - Gordon Jones in Dec q 1911, Newport 11A 403?
In 1911 a Gordon Jones was a police constable in Newport, so could be the right person.

Myra Williams, b March q 1887, Chepstow 11a 15
baptised 27.3.1887 (Mira) at St Briavels Church
m William C Jones at St Briavels Church on 23.9.1912, Aug q 1912, Chepstow 11a 9

Allen Enoch Williams, baptised 28.4.1889 at St Briavels Church. Can't find a birth registration for him or a 1911 Census entry.

Janet Williams, b Sept q 1891, Chepstow 11a 13, baptised 17.6.1891 at St Briavels (Jeannette)
m William G Walker in June q 1919, Chepstow 11a 22
children:
Selby W Walker, b June q 1921, Gloucester 6a 609
Raymond A Walker, b Dec q 1924, Gloucester 6a 426
Audrey Barbara Maud Walker, b 25.8.1927, birth registered as Barbara M Walker, Sept q 1927, Bradfield 2c 525 (Berkshire)
m Rudolf August Lightert on 23.10.1948, Dec q 1948 Evesham 9d 2811
third child being Rudolf Selby Ligthert, b Sept 1950, Evesham 9D 110

If anyone could help fill in the missing bits, I would be grateful.

Sheila

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