Edmund FLETCHER born abt 1885

I am only just getting started, but have already found what looks like a brick wall. My mother Patti was born in the Forest of Dean in 1912 and lived (I think) in Yorkley. She had an older sister Mary (abt 1911)and a younger brother William (abt 1914). My grandparents were Edmund Fletcher (abt 1885) and Emma Jones (b 1886). I have found a census record of who I think is my grandfather born in Lydney - and the 1911 summary shows an E Fletcher living with two others (both female) in Avening - so I guess this could be my grandmother and aunt Mary. This is as far as it goes. Like so many people I wasn't taking notes when my mother recounted her history and she is sadly not here to tell me these stories any more. Can anyone help with more information please.

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Name: Edmund L Fletcher
Death Registration Month/Year: 1938
Age at death (estimated): 54
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 337

1911
FLETCHER EDMUND M 1885 26 Pontypool Monmouthshire
FLETCHER EMMA F 1887 24 Pontypool Monmouthshire

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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FLETCHER Edmund Bedwellty 11a 189
JONES Emma Bedwellty 11a 189

1911
FLETCHER WILLIAM M 1852 59 Monmouth Monmouthshire
FLETCHER CAROLINE F 1850 61 Monmouth Monmouthshire
FLETCHER MARTHA F 1889 22 Monmouth Monmouthshire

1901
William Fletcher abt 1852 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Caroline Fletcher abt 1850 Burton, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Edmund Fletcher abt 1885 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1888 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Martha Fletcher abt 1889 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Settia Fletcher abt 1827 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Mother Newland, Gloucestershire

1891
William Fletcher abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Caroline Fletcher abt 1850 Docks, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Edmund Fletcher abt 1885 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1888 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Martha Fletcher abt 1889 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

Name: Edmund Lewis Fletcher
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 21

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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Fletcher William Westbury S. 6a 476
PICTON Caroline Westbury S. 6a 476

1881
Caroline Picton abt 1850 Burton, Pembrokeshire, Wales Servant Leckhampton, Gloucestershire

1881
Letitia Fletcher abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Fletcher abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Fletcher abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1869 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Letitia Flitcher 44
William Flitcher 19
Sarah Flitcher 11
Charlotte Flitcher 7
Geo Fletcher 5
Elizabeth Ann 2

1861
Edmund Fletcher abt 1824 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Letitia Fletcher abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Fletcher abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England West Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Fletcher abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Fletcher abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Fletcher abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edmund Fletcher abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
Edmond Fletcher abt 1824 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lettia Fletcher abt 1826 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Fletcher abt 1847 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Roseletta Fletcher abt 1849 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Fletcher abt 1832 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Brother West Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Dobbs abt 1832 Pillowillweston, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1846
Month: Aug
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: FLETCHER
Grooms_Forenames: Edmund
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Pillowell
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: FLETCHER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: RUCK
Brides_Forenames: Letitia
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Pillowell
Brides_Fathers_Surname: RUCK
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Morgan
Witness_2: Phoebe Elway
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: The bride signed Letisha
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 28
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1841
James Fletcher abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Fletcher abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Edward Fletcher abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Fletcher abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Harriett Fletcher abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Fletcher abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Fletcher abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1823
Month: Oct
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: FLETCHER
Child_Forenames: Edmund
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecroft
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: D[avi]d Jones Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 10
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

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Name: Patti Fisher
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 2005
Age at death (estimated): 92
Registration district: New Forest
Inferred County: Hampshire, New Forest
Register number: 8B
District and Subdistrict: 494/1B
Entry number: 195

Name: Patti Fletcher
Spouse : Alfred L Fisher
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 2177

Name: Patti Fletcher
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Jones
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 36

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Name: Mary Fletcher
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypool
County: Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 175

Name: Mary Fletcher
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2000
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register number: C17D
District and Subdistrict: 4271C
Entry number: 202

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Two little snippets to add to Slowhands' encyclopaedic replies.

Edmund's parents, William Fletcher and Caroline, got married on 24th December 1881 at St John's Cinderford. On the same day at the same place William's younger sister Sarah (my Great Gran!) married George Nelmes. Each couple acted as witnesses to the other's marriage. In those days, with people allowed very few days off work, it was quite common to get married on holidays such as Christmas. Sarah and Caroline were both in service (1881 census) in Leckhampton, just outside Cheltenham; maybe Sarah introduced Caroline to her brother!!

A tricky question! William and Sarah's mother was Letitia Fletcher (nee Ruck). Her parents were John and Susannah Ruck who got married on 21st May 1826, less than five months before Letitia was born (Baptised 8th October 1826). Records of their wedding show the bride as Susannah Brain, spinster, but the birth certificate of their daughter Mary Ann (1839) indicates that she was originally Susannah Clifton and had been married before to a Mr Brain.

This is confirmed by records for Letitia's older sister Jane (shown as Jane Ruck in the 1841 census) which show that she was baptised on 27th July 1823 as Jane Brain with parents John and Susannah Brain. I have raised a question before about the date of death of John Brain; knowing this might give us a clue as to whether Letitia's father was John Brain or John Ruck! A tricky and interesting question!!

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I remember that my grandmother who married Edmund had a cousin called Maud Nelmes. Where is he in your tree?

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If I have the right Edmund, his father was William Fletcher and William had a sister Sarah who married George Nelmes at Cinderford on 24 Dec 1881. George and Sarah had a son Albert Nelmes (born c 1891) who had a wife called Maude; I know that this is correct because they both signed a card at the 80th birthday party for Albert's older sister Miriam in December 1962.
I am not sure when Albert got married. It might be to Florence M Jones in the September quarter of 1925 (Monmouth 11a71); there were lots of Florence Maud(e) Jones born in Mon and Glos at about the right time.
Is this cousin Maud?

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It was Albert Edward Nelmes who married Florence May Jones in 1925. The following would appear to be death registration for each:
Name: Albert E Nelmes
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1968
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 951

Name: Florence May Nelmes
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1904
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1970
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1552

Albert son of George and Sarah was born 1891 and Florence's second name was not Maude so you can eliminate this marriage.

This could be death registration for Albert:
Name: Albert Nelmes
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1890
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1973
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Richmond upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5d
Page: 1613

The date of birth fits.

A possible marriage for him is:
Name: Albert Nelmes
Spouse Surname: Elsie Landers
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Abergavenny
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 113

Albert was in Aberbargoed (in Bedwellty Registration District) with parents and some siblings at time of 1911 Census and this would appear to be Elsie's death registration:
Name: Elsie Nelmes
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1968
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Bedwellty
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 46

So who is Maude?

Mike

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Thanks, this confirms that the man on the 1891 and 1911 census records is almost certainly my Edmund, but I can find no trace of their marriage in the area. My mother's birth was registered by my grandmother Emma Jones - was it customary for the mother to enter her maiden name when registering, or could it be they were not married at that point. That would have been surprising in their case.

As I am so new to this, I am not sure where to look next for the marriage or establish whether the family in Avening is my grandparents and my aunt (mum's older sister. I am trying to find out more about my grandfather who died relatively young and also to trace the Welsh side of the family (Emma Jones was Welsh and my mother spent her youth in the Newport area. I will probably try and find the death record for Edmund which would have been about 1945 in the Newport area.

Any tips? I am determined not to give up!

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The Avening family is a red herring, yours are in Wales

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Name: Emma Fletcher
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1886
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: South East Hampshire
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1667

Emma Jones 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Chrickhowell Breconshire, Monmouthshire
Emma Jones 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Bridgend Glamorgan
Emma Beatrice M Jones 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Abergavenny Herefordshire, Monmouthshire

Any names of Aunts or Uncles from Emma's side ?

A few possibles including :-

1891
Richard Jones abt 1856 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Head Newcastle Higher, Glamorgan
Martha Jones abt 1854 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newcastle Higher, Glamorgan
Lilian Jones abt 1881 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Newcastle Higher, Glamorgan
Maud Jones abt 1882 Tonder, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Newcastle Higher, Glamorgan
Emma Jones abt 1887 Tonder, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Newcastle Higher, Glamorgan
or

1891
James Jones abt 1851 St Weonards, Hertfordshire, England Head Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Ellen L Jones abt 1860 London, England Wife Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
George F J Jones abt 1885 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Emma B M Jones abt 1887 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Charles R Jones abt 1889 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Beatrice Plowman abt 1871 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister-in-Law Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Suzanne Clamagnan abt 1863 France Boarder Abergavenny, Monmouthshire

1891
John Jones abt 1853 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Head Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Mary A Jones abt 1854 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Wife Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Sarah E Jones abt 1879 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Mary H Jones abt 1881 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llangattock, Monmouthshire
George H Jones abt 1883 Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Emma Jones abt 1886 Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Annie Jones abt 1888 Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Thomas J Jones abt 1889 Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llangattock, Monmouthshire
James A Jones abt 1891 Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llangattock, Monmouthshire

1901
Thomas Mosley abt 1847 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Head Blackwell, Derbyshire
Eliza Mosley abt 1858 Pontypool, Wales Wife Blackwell, Derbyshire
John Mosley abt 1885 Ripley, Derbyshire, England Son Blackwell, Derbyshire
Lilly Jones abt 1891 Pontypool, Wales Stepdaughter Blackwell, Derbyshire
James Jones abt 1881 Pontypool, Wales Stepson Blackwell, Derbyshire
Fred Jones abt 1884 Pontypool, Wales Stepson Blackwell, Derbyshire
Emma Jones abt 1887 Pontypool, Wales Stepdaughter Blackwell, Derbyshire
Robert Jones abt 1890 Pontypool, Wales Stepson Blackwell, Derbyshire
Henry Jones abt 1894 Pontypool, Wales Stepson Blackwell, Derbyshire
Samuel Mosley abt 1889 Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Son Blackwell, Derbyshire

1891
James Jones abt 1856 Llangibby, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Elige A Jones abt 1858 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Trevethin, Monmouthshire
James W Jones abt 1881 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Edith Jones abt 1883 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Fred Jones abt 1885 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Emme Jones abt 1887 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Robert Jones abt 1890 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire

1891
Thomas Jones abt 1861 Glamorgan, Wales Head Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Caroline Jones abt 1862 Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Emma Jones abt 1888 Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Ann Jones abt 1886 Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
David Jones abt 1890 Glamorgan, Wales Son Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
John Robins abt 1835 Monmouthshire, Wales Father-in-Law Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Geo Robins abt 1865 Monmouthshire, Wales Brother-in-Law Bedwellty, Monmouthshire

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My grandmother may have had a sister called Maud. I can't remember the name of Emma's mother, but I believe she had a twin called Lydia (Aunt Lydd who I don't believe ever married. My mother's siblings were Mary (an older sister by a year or two) and William, her younger brother by a year or two. Mary died in 2000 and William died at the age of 52 - so in the 1960s.

Thank you for finding the marriage record. Do you have any information about the Fletcher family from your area that's related to my Edmund. Sorry to ask for so much information at once!

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Looks promising or just a coincidence...
Sisters Maud and Lillian

1911
JONES RICHARD M 1856 55 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JONES MARTHA F 1854 57 Monmouth Monmouthshire
(JONES MAUD F 1885 26 Monmouth Monmouthshire ?)

1901
Richard Jones abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Martha Jones abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
Lilian Jones abt 1881 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Emma Jones abt 1887 S Wales; Aberkenfig, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

1881
Richd. Jones abt 1856 Parkway, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Martha Jones . abt 1854 Parkway, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Lillia Jones Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire

Year: 1880
Month: Jul
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Lilian
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Martha
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Chepstow
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm. Males
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes: Born: Jun 28th 1880
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 31
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow Wesleyan Methodist

1871
Thomas Jones 50
Mary Jones 51
William Jones 20
Richard Jones 15
Eliza Jones 13
Angelina Jones 11
Elizabeth Jones 9

1861
Thomas Jones abt 1822 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1822 Penhow, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas Jones abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
George Jones abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Richard Jones abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Eliza Jones abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Angelina Jones abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1851 Yorkley Lane - Jones Wood
Thomas James abt 1822 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary James abt 1822 Penhale, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas James abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary James abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
William James abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

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This could well be Richard's wife - Martha and sister in law Lydia ( and another Emma)

Twins ?

Name: Martha Jones
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 28

Name: Lydia Jones
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 27

1851 Yorkley
George Jones abt 1816 Aisby, [CITY] Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Cordwainer
Sarah Jones abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jones abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Susan Jones abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Jones abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Yorkley
George Jones abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jones abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Susan Jones abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Allice Jones abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lydia Jones abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Jones abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Jones abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hanna Jones abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Yorkley
George Jones 57 Gloucester St Mary Cordwainer & Inn Keeper
Sarah Jones 55 West Dean
Mary Jones 20 West Dean
Emma Jones 15 West Dean
Hannah Jones 11 West Dean

a possible marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
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JONES Martha Llanelly 11a 890
JONES Richard Llanelly 11a 890

or even given Martha is in London with sister Lydia

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
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Jones Martha Chelsea 1a 497
Jones Richard Chelsea 1a 497

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This is all fantastic. I think you have found my grandmother's family, because I remember she had a sister, Maud, but I didn't remember a Lilian. I think the marriage record for Llanelli is correct, because I don't remember any conversations that were not about the family either in Wales or Gloucestershire. Richard would make sense as my gg grandfather - my mother may have named my brother after her grandfather. The Emmas live on too - I named my daughter after my grandmother.

This brings me back to Edmund, who died before I was born and whose family is a complete mystery to me. It would be wonderful if you could hand me a few more clues about his siblings, parents etc.

You are very quick coming back with this information - you must have been doing it for years, as every search seems to take me forever.

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This brings me back to Edmund, who died before I was born and whose family is a complete mystery to me. It would be wonderful if you could hand me a few more clues about his siblings, parents etc.

I suspect most of what you are after is in the reply titled :-

Edmund Lewis FLETCHER 1884 - 1938 Whitecroft from about 6:30 this morning

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Sorry. I hadn't studied the reply you sent this morning - I am just amazed at how much information you've come up with. I will let you know if I find anything remarkable. Thanks again.

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Aunt Lydd who I don't believe ever married

Name: Lydia Jones
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 27

1871 Conduit St
Lydia Jones abt 1854 Sydng, Gloucestershire, England Apprentice Dressmaker St George Hanover Square, London
Martha Jones abt 1854 Sydng, Gloucestershire, England Apprentice St George Hanover Square, London

1881 Conduit St
Lydia Jones abt 1853 Yorkshireley, Gloucestershire, England Boarder St George, London Dressmaker

1891
Lydia Jones abt 1854 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Visitor St Marylebone, London Dressmaker

1901 Conduit St
Lydia Jones abt 1854 Wydney, Gloucestershire, England St George Hanover Square, London

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I've been trying to find a bit more information about Lydia. The address is 20 Conduit Street and a lot of fashion houses were located in this area. How can I find out the history of the building?

I have also got very stuck and confused by the number of Fletchers and Jones in your area, many with similar christian names. Can you give me any information about the migration of people between Forest of Dean and the Newport area in Wales. My grandparents (Emma and Edmund Fletcher ran the post office in Rogerstone near Newport and lived at the same address - my mother and her siblings grew up there - but I can't find any trace of this in the records. Thanks

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