Marriage of Eliza JONES states Christopher JONES as father (General)

by Simone @, Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 22:01 (5055 days ago)

I have Thomas Howell married to Eliza Jones 1843, St Briavels, marriage is on this site. Eliza states dad as Christopher Jones, labourer.

Anyone know who he is.. I can't find him anywhere :(

Eliza is here in 1851 Lane End, West Dean
HO107; Piece: 2444; Folio: 269; Page: 7
Thomas Howell 35
Eliza Howell 32
Ovinah Howell 6
Comfort Howell 4
Noah Howell 3
Agness Howell 1
Charles Meredith 14


Thanks

Simone x

Eliza JONES 1819 Clearwell, Newland

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 06:42 (5055 days ago) @ Simone

I wonder if this is your Eliza ?

Year: 1819
Month: Dec
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Eliza
Fathers_Forenames:
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: P M Procter-Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [illegit D of Mary]
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 42
Parish_Chapel: Newland

with possible sister:-

Year 1811
Month Aug
Day 11
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames Margaret
Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Clearwell
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda illegit[imate]
Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 1/5
Page Number 46
Parish Chapel Newland

<><><> However, Eliza's age is "variable" !


1851
Thomas Howell abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Howell abt 1819 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ovinah Howell abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Comfort Howell abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Noah Howell abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Agness Howell abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Meredith abt 1837 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Howell abt 1814 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Howell abt 1824 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Comfort Howell abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Noah Howell abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Anness Howell abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Howell abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Howell abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Howell abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Howell abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Howell abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Meredith abt 1837 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Thomas Howell 50 [1821]
Liza Howell 46 [1815]
Noah Howell 23
Comfort Howell 24
Thomas Howell 19
Henry Howell 16
Harriet Howell 14
Sarah Howell 12
John Howell 10


1881
Thomas Howell abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Howell abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Howell abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Howell abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Howell abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Hale abt 1862 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Howell West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 07:04 (5055 days ago) @ slowhands

Again this might be your Eliza :-


1841 Joyford
Mary Jones abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Jones abt 1822 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jones abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Noah Jones abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest,

with the added complication of young Noah

Year: 1841
Month: Aug
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Noah William
Fathers_Forenames:
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Joyford
Occupation: Single Woman
Officiating_Minister: T Morgan Off[iciating] Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 145
Parish_Chapel: Newland

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by Simone @, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 09:42 (5055 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks Slowhands, very interesting..

I have just noticed a marriage at Newland between Christopher Jones and Mary Williams in 1776 at Newland... I wonder if she could have used grandad's name on the marriage. Maybe Mary b c 1776 is the daughter of Christopher and Mary.

Also Noah Jones is interesting too... she did have a son Noah but born 1848, I have the certificate, so I wonder if first son Noah died?

Thanks for all you help :)

I will have to have a play later... got to go out now :(... doesn't life get in the way of what you want to do sometimes !!!

Simone x

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by holly @, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 19:18 (5054 days ago) @ Simone

Found, on here in the parish records, Noah Jones aged 3 was buried 27 March 1844 at Newland.

Noah JONES 1840- 1844 Coleford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:08 (5054 days ago) @ holly

Year: 1844
Month: Mar
Day: 27
Surname: JONES
Forenames: Noah
Residence: Coleford
Age_at_death: 3 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: C W Grove Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Son of Eliza
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/16
Page_No: 275
Parish_Chapel: Newland

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by Simone @, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:11 (5054 days ago) @ holly

Thanks for that... looking good that Slowhands found the correct one:)

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by holly @, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 21:40 (5054 days ago) @ Simone

thanks Slowhands - I didn't know how to do it all out in full like that.

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by Simone @, Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 22:15 (5054 days ago) @ holly

Hi :) just in case you want to do it another time ;-)

Just highlight it all, then press 'CTRL'key & 'C' key at same time, then put curser where you want to paste it and press CTRL key and V key :)

Simone x

Eliza JONES 1820 ish Joyford

by Simone @, Saturday, January 29, 2011, 09:06 (5052 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi again

still trying to tie this family up for definite, but can't see anything for Christopher :( not even a death

However, wondering about this entry

31061
Entry Number 515
Year 1822
Month Mar
Day 16 [?]
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames Eliza
Fathers Forenames [illegible]
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence [illegible]
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Charles D. Blyth Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P175 IN 1/4
Page Number 25
Parish Chapel Hewelsfield


would Hewelsfied be considered West Dean, as Eliza puts West Dean as place of birth?
would it be possible to see this entry?

also I can't find Sarah who is listed in 1841 as age 4, can't work out who she is.
advice gratefully accepted :)

Thanks

Simone x

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