James Brown and Rhoda Hook

I am trying to trace my husbands family history and am looking for information on James and Rhoda. They were married Mar-Jun 1875. James was born abt 1851 in Tintern and died 1911 Rhoda was born abt 1857 in Whitecroft, and died 1917. They lived at Darkhole Farm/Saunders Green Farm. James was a Stone Mason. Any information would be a great help especially on Rhoda.

Many thanks

Barbara

Post reply

2397 views

Please see previous discussion in this thread: http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=9948

Post reply

2358 views

Year: 1851
Month: Feb
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: BROWN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tintern
Occupation: labourer
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Tintern Monmouth

1851 Tintern
James Brown 50
Eliza Brown 36
Elizabeth Brown 9
Bridgett Brown 6
Ann Brown 3
James Brown 2 MO

1861
James Brown abt 1801 Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire
Eliza Brownabt 1816 Trelleck, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Coleman abt 1842 Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire
Bridgett Brown abt 1845 Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire
Ann Brown abt 1848 Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire
James Brown abt 1851 Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Tintern Parva, Monmouthshire

1871 Tintern
James Brown 70
Eliza Brown 55
Bridget Brown 25
Annie McColeman 9

1881
James Brown abt 1848 Trelleck, Monmouth, Wales Head Chepstow St Arvans, Monmouthshire
Rhoda Brown abt 1857 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow St Arvans, Monmouthshire
William Brown abt 1877 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Chepstow St Arvans, Monmouthshire
Albert Brown abt 1880 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Chepstow St Arvans, Monmouthshire
Kate Brown St Arvans, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow St Arvans,

1891
James Brown abt 1851 Tintern Abby, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Brown abt 1855 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Brown abt 1876 Elwood, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Brown abt 1881 Elwood, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Kate Brown abt 1882 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Brown abt 1884 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Paul Brown abt 1885 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Brown abt 1886 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Brown abt 1887 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Brown abt 1888 St Briabels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Margret Brown abt 1890 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1901 Darkhole farm, Saunders Green
James Brown abt 1853 Tintern, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Rhode Brown abt 1857 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
Paul Brown abt 1885 Tintern, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Fanny Brown abt 1886 Tintern, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
James Brown abt 1887 St Arvans, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Sarah Brown abt 1890 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Mary Brown abt 1891 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Matilda Brown abt 1894 Lamrdus Green, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
May Brown abt 1895 Lamrdus Green, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Tom Brown abt 1896 Lamrdus Green, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Clara Brown abt 1898 Lamrdus Green, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Stanley C Brown abt 1900 Lamrdus Green, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire

1911
BROWN RHODA F 1856 55 Monmouth Monmouthshire
BROWN JAMES M 1887 24 Monmouth Monmouthshire
BROWN MARY F 1890 21 Monmouth Monmouthshire
BROWN MATILDA F 1893 18 Monmouth Monmouthshire
BROWN PAUL M 1884 27 Monmouth Monmouthshire
BROWN TOM M 1895 16 Monmouth Monmouthshire

--
Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Post reply

2308 views

Thank you Andrew and Slowhands for all the information, you are great.

Barbara B

Post reply

2254 views

Hi Barbara,

We must be cousins as James Brown 1846 who married Rhoda Hook was my g.grandfather, my grandfather being Paul Brown. James was the son of William Brown and Sarah Hoare. If you would like further information on the Brown ancestry please contact me.

Best wishes from a hot steamy day in South Africa.
Carol Brown

Post reply

2211 views

Hi Barbara,
I have only just started in the past few months tracing my family tree.My great-grandfather was james Brown and Rhoda Hook was my great-grandmother.My grandfather was there son Tom Brown who was born in 1895. Unfortunately I have been unable to trace Rhodas side of the tree but if I can help with any details of James side please ask. I have been trying to find where Dark Hole farm was but cannot find any details.I know that James was a stone mason and farm supplier and they had 9 children ( I have names and dates for all the children). I hope this is of some use to you and would be pleased to share any information

Laura (from Australia)

Post reply

1844 views

Hi Laura,

Dark Hole Farm was just outside Whitecroft, adjacent to the Bream road and on the way to Brockhollands. We are first cousins. I am the granddaughter of our grandfathers brother Paul. I knew your father. Please email me as I would love to hear from you.

Best wishes
Carol Brown (from South Africa)

Post reply

1852 views

Hi Carol,

Hope all is well in South Africa.
You will see the reply I have sent to Laura.
Do you know if Dark Hole Farm, is the same place as what is shown as Saunders Green Farm today?? I have looked through lots of old records on line, but to no avail.
I have uploaded my latest tree to Ancestry, when they have released it I will send you an email, as it is not public.

Love
David & Barbara.

Post reply

1802 views

Hi Laura,

I am David Brown, Barbara's husband. I have taken over doing my family tree a while ago, while Barbara is busy with her transcribing and doing her family side of a tree.
James Brown & Rhoda Hook are also my Great GrandFather & Great GrandMother.
My GrandFather was Paul Brown, but my GrandMother was Edith Kate Lawrence.
As Paul Brown's previous wife Cora Ann Edwards died in 1914. She was Cousin Carol's ( who has also replied to you ) Grandmother.
On the Hook side I have got back to :
Jacob Hook. 1798-1868
George Hook. 1745-1830.
Richard Hook. 1715-1793.
Richard Hook. 1685-1772.
John Hook. Still Searching?
Christopher Hook. Still Searching?

If I can help you further with more info, contact me by email.
Best Wishes
David Brown. ( Cornwall,UK.)

Post reply

1850 views

This might through some light on the Father of Rhonda.
I have been given this information on good authority from a Wintle family member. i.e. Birth cert viewed.
Elijah was my G Grandfather who married Martha Price 1859.

In 1851 Matilda (aged 12) was living with her parents at Upper Row, Whitecroft. Elijah and family were living at
Lower Row. Elijah was aged 16.

Rhoda WINTLE OR HOOK-3046 was born 3 Nov 1856 in Whitecroft, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England.

Elijah Wintle is given as her father on the birth certificate.

Elijah WINTLE-20 was born1 1834 in Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England and was christened2 14 Sep 1834 in Parkend, Gloucestershire, England. He died3 13 Apr 1914 in Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England.

I can fill in information re the Wintle family.
Ancestry search looks as if Matilda married George Guest 1859 and Rhonda then used his name but I have not spent a great deal of time researching Matilda and Rhonda so happy to be proven incorrect.

Cheers Gill (NZ )

Post reply

1792 views

Hi Gill,

Thank you for the very comprehensive information, especially them living in Upper Row & Lower Row in Whitecroft, concerning Elijah Wintle & Matilda Hook.
I see Elijah Wintle is showing on my tree, as my 2nd Great Grandfather.
I presume that you already have his Baptism details on 14th September 1834 at Parkend & his burial details 18th April 1914 at Cinderford St.Johns.
You are correct about Matilda, married George Guest 11th June 1859 & Rhoda married James Brown in 1875 at Bream Chapel.
I have expanded my tree now to include the Wintle Family.
If I can help you with your Family Tree, please don't hesitate to ask.

Best Regards

David Brown. (Cornwall,UK.)

Post reply

1709 views

Hi David,
Thankyou so much for the information you passed to me.I have only just started researching my family tree and have a huge amount to sort through correctly after using ancestry.com to get started.It is lovely to hear from you as I have not got many details of the Brown/ hook family at all.Tom Brown was my grandfather and I have very little information about him.I was wondering if you have information of their other siblings also

Many Thanks

Laura Martin (Perth Australia)

Post reply

1729 views