Beneficiaries and Others - Harriet CLARK (General)
Forest of Dean Wills & Administrations Index 1858-1941
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=27675
I saw with great interest one of the updated wills belongs to an ancestress of mine, an 86 year old spinster and youngest sister of my gg grandfather. Harriett Clarke's will is listed as 1874/9. I wanted to order it from the Gloucestershire Archives but it doesn't seem to be coming up on their list. Is there somewhere else it might have been filed, ot is it likely that the Archives on line data might be incomplete?
For others who may be interested, Harriett was the daughter of William Clarke and Mary (Stephens) of Blakeney Hill (Awre).
Harriett CLARKE - Probate Records (Ancestry)
by m p griffiths , Monday, March 14, 2011, 17:34 (5007 days ago) @ mrsbruso
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Adminstrations)
CLARKE Harriett
4 January 1875
Adminstration (with the Will and Codicil) of the effects of Harriett Clarke late of Blakeney Hill in the Township of East Dean in the County of Gloucester, Spinster, who died 30 November 1874 at Blakeney Hill was granted at Gloucester to William MORSE of Blakeney Hill, Labourer, the Nephew one of the Residuary Legatees sus-stituted.
Effects under £800
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1871 Census, East Dean
Blakeney Hill
William MORSE - 55 - labourer, born Viney Hill, Glos
Jemima MORSE - 58 - born ditto
George Edward MORSE - Son, unmarried - 27 - labourer, born East Dean
family of VIRGO's
then
Charles MORSE - Head married 58 - Coal Miner, born East Dean
Jane MORSE - 50 - born West Dean
Mary Anne - dau - unmarried 18 - Servant (out of employ) - born East Dean
Sam - son - 15 - Coal Miner
Ruth - 12
Dan - 10
Martha - 5
William Charles MORSE, Grandson - 1
Charles MORSE Junr - married 27 - Coal Miner
Mary MORSE - wife - 22
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1851 Census, Harriot CLARK, unmarried age 62 - Landed Proprietor, born Awre
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Lydney marriage
My x Grandfather John WICKENDEN of Awre married Ann STEPHENS of Lydney - 9 April 1777 - witness Henry STEPHENS
Ann STEPHENS christened 25 September 1757 - daughter of Henry & Elizabeth STEPHENS
Harriet CLARK 1788 - 1874
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, March 14, 2011, 17:57 (5007 days ago) @ mrsbruso
Year: 1874
Month: Dec
Day: 4
Surname: CLARK
Forenames: Harriet
Residence: Blakeney
Age_at_death: 86
Officiating_Minister: John J.Trollope
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/12
Page_No: 144
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
1861
Harriet Clark abt 1789 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
1851 Gibraltar
Harriot Clark abt 1789 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Land Proprietor
Year: 1788
Month: Oct
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: CLARK
Child_Forenames: Harriet
Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Sandiford Vicar & Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: D[aughter] of
Notes: Blakeney Chapel
Register_Reference: P30 1 IN 1 Part 2
Page_Number: 461
Parish_Chapel: Awre
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Harriet CLARK 1788 - 1874
by mrsbruso , Monday, March 14, 2011, 19:02 (5007 days ago) @ slowhands
Thank you both for your information. This may help me move beyond Richard Stephens. I am currently "stuck", with three possible births in the 1719-1728 time period which his age at death suggests as his time of birth. (Age 81 when he died in 1805 at Blakeney/Awre)
What does landed proprietor mean exactly? I would have thought this would be unusual for an unmarried woman who is a youngest child with four elder brothers.
Her neighbors make great sense when you consider that her neices married into both the Morgan and Virgo families.
Harriet CLARK 1788 - 1874
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, March 14, 2011, 19:04 (5007 days ago) @ mrsbruso
landed proprietor mean exactly
Someone who owns land ( and property) - and in all probability earns their living by charging rent.
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Harriet CLARK 1788 - 1874
by mrsbruso , Monday, March 14, 2011, 19:46 (5007 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks. Sorry you had to state the obvious but I didn't want to presume that the terms had remained constant across time. I had always been under the impression that 19th century England was more of a patriarchal society than Harriett's situation suggests. Her eldest brother lists his occupation as labourer. Harriett was the youngest of seven children, with four older brothers. Apparently times, and my ancestors, were more enlightened than I had been lead to imagine. (Three cheers for Harriett?)
Harriet CLARK 1788 - 1874
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 06:46 (5007 days ago) @ mrsbruso
I agree its a little obvious - however what the title doesn't give us is any idea of scale - it may have been a very small paddock and small income - or something bigger :-)
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Obtaining copies of Wills (proved from 1858 onwards)
by admin , Forest of Dean, Monday, March 14, 2011, 22:54 (5007 days ago) @ mrsbruso
Harriett Clarke's will is listed as 1874/9. I wanted to order it from the Gloucestershire Archives but it doesn't seem to be coming up on their list.
You can only order copies of Wills from Gloucestershire Archives which are prior to 1858.
Details of how to obtain a copy of any of the Wills that are listed in the index is on the bottom part of the
Forest of Dean Wills Index 1858-1941 page.
Obtaining copies of Wills (proved from 1858 onwards)
by mrsbruso , Monday, March 14, 2011, 23:46 (5007 days ago) @ admin
Thank you, Admin.
I had an email from Glos Arch today. They can sent me William Clarke's 1845 will, but the three more recent wills are in hard copy only, and will be thirteen pounds per page. Since I don't know how many pages there might be that is a little too dear for me at the moment. I will send to York for the other four.
George Morse's will has also been helpful. So I would like to thank everyone involved in making this information availabe.