John Ball/Thomas Globe - a foundling with two names (General)
Hello. I'm a newbie to this site and my name is Richard Globe.
I'm in need of guidance.
My 6x great grandfather was Thomas Globe born in 1759, died Yorkshire (Wentworth) 25th October 1820 aged 60. Thomas was admitted to the London Foundling Hospital on July 20th, 1759. I have from the London Met. Archives (LMA) his complete records.
This week I heard from the London Foundling Museum who did a look up for me in the Billet Books they had on loan from the LMA. (The Billet Books sometimes contain information about the mother and tokens taken from a foundling child for purpose of identification).
There was no token taken for Thomas Globe, however there was a note attached to his name that reads:
This is to certife [sic] that John the baseborn child of Sarah Ball was baptised in th Parish church of Westbury in the County of Gloucester on the first day of July 1759. (signed) Wm. Hawkins, Curate
I've searched and found a William Hawkins who was curate at the Parish Chapel: Westbury-on-Severn, Gloucestershire around this time. I've searched the parish records on this site, however there are no transcription entries for a Sarah or John Ball around this date. Now I'm stuck.
I wonder if all the parish chapel records for Westbury-on-Severn have been transcribed?
Am I searching in the right place?
Should I ask for a look up in the Gloucester archives?
As I live in Copenhagen any suggestions and/or help will be gratefully received.
Many thanks
Richard Globe
John BALL 1756 The Leigh
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, March 18, 2011, 12:31 (5003 days ago) @ amlet
The Leigh http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Leigh/Gaz1868.html
nr Deerhurst north of Gloucester
Year 1756
Month May
Day 30
Parents Surname BALL
Child Forenames John
Fathers Forenames not stated
Mothers Forenames Sarah
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda base child
Notes
Register Reference P199 IN 1/3
Page Number
Parish Chapel The Leigh
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John Ball/Thomas Globe - a foundling with two names
by grahamdavison , Friday, March 18, 2011, 23:59 (5003 days ago) @ amlet
I have just looked at the original parish register for Westbury on Severn for 1 July 1759 and there is the following entry:
John son of a stranger born of Thos Marshal.
This could be the baptism you are looking for with the stranger being Sarah Ball. If so then you also know the father`s name.
The other possibility is that the Westbury is Westbury on Trym which is near Bristol, I note that the IGI doesn`t contain the baptisms for this parish.
John Ball/Thomas Globe - a foundling with two names
Dear grahamdavidson,
Thank you so much. I can honestly say I hadn't expected this and am a little stunned.
Many thanks for taking the trouble to look in the parish register, as this for me is a significant find. I'll keep you updated on further findings.
Richard
Thomas MARSHALL/Wm HAWKINS - Curate
by m p griffiths , Saturday, March 19, 2011, 08:17 (5002 days ago) @ amlet
' John - son of a stranger born of Thos. Marshall' - 1 July 1759 - (which was a Sunday) same christening date as the London Foundling records and signed by William HAWKINS - curate.
and as you say, William HAWKINS is the Curate at the weddings in 1760 - Westbury on Severn.
???? - using the Advanced Search of children - baptised, father Thomas MARSHALL (Westbury on Severn)
Thomas MARSHALL and wife Elizabeth have children baptised at Westbury on Severn around that time.
Mary - 25 July 1754
Elizabeth 1 July 1756
Joan - 17 May 1767 (FOD records married Richard TRIGG at Westbury on Severn 18 October 1786)
Joseph - 22 July 1770
Phoebe - 27 July 1770
FOD records - burial at Westbury on Severn 8 March 1780 - Thomas MARSHALL
(a) Thomas MARSHALL marries in 1753
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, March 19, 2011, 10:04 (5002 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Year: 1753
Month: Apr
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: MARSHALL
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HAWKINS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence:
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Walwyn Morgan Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/2
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Walford
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Thomas MARSHALL - previous thread
by m p griffiths , Saturday, March 19, 2011, 10:54 (5002 days ago) @ slowhands
There are a couple of Overseers Reports on the Gloucestershire Records Office for Sarah Ball 1754 (Bisley).
This tree is on Public Members Tree (son Thomas 1761-1799) married Dinah COOK(E)
Thomas MARSHALL c1826 - Westbury on Severn, parents Joseph MARSHALL and Joan UNDERWOOD (family names)
previous thread
Baptisms 1st July 1759 Westbury on Severn
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, March 24, 2011, 07:38 (4997 days ago) @ m p griffiths
there have been 4 transcribed :-
1759 EVANS Ann [Base Born] Ann Westbury on Severn
1759 LODGE Thomas Thomas Elizabeth Westbury on Severn
1759 CADLE Ann John Hannah Westbury on Severn
1759 MARSHAL John Stranger not stated Westbury on Severn
Year 1759
Month Jul
Day 1
Parents Surname MARSHAL
Child Forenames John
Fathers Forenames Stranger
Mothers Forenames not stated
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda Son of
Notes Entry reads Anne Dau of Jacob Bullock and Elizabeth wife of Tho[ma]s Andrews.
In this record a surname was not clear so the best guess was given
Register Reference P 354 IN 1/3
Page Number 8
Parish Chapel Westbury on Severn
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Westbury on Trym
by Simone , Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:15 (5002 days ago) @ grahamdavison
There are a few on batch number C008475, but can't see one that fits John?
(my Pheobe Marsahll stated born Westbury on census, 1791, but couldn't find her..all her siblings bapt Hope Mansell, but found hers at Westbury on Trym. maybe dad was working there for a time )
Simone