Richard PHILLIPS born Lydney 1817 (General)
by jason750_1, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 00:28 (4966 days ago)
Hi
I've just found this site after a days visit to lydney and Aylburton without much luck on my searches and I wonder if anyone can help?
I have traced my Mother's line back to a Richard Phillips born in Lydney in 1817. He is listed as having married a woman named Ann (b. 1808?) but I cannot find her surname. It has been suggested that she may have come from Berkeley originally but I cannot corroborate this.
After having searched the Gloucestershire records office, I have found a surname of Tyler for a woman married to a Mr Phillips that had 3 children (William 1841, Charles 1843, & Jane 1845). This seems to work with the detail I have for the children but I can't seem to get anymore info.
The helpful census records on this site have a Richard Phillips living in Aylburton in 1841 and then Huntley in 1861. These seem to tie in with his age if born in 1817.
The final piece of info I found here this evening is that a Richard Phillips was killed at Parkend on the 21/09/1869 and a Charles Phillips also died there on 10/11/1883.
If anyone can help me get any further info I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers
Jason
Richard PHILLIPS - born Monmouth (Jane TILEY)
by m p griffiths , Thursday, April 28, 2011, 08:04 (4965 days ago) @ jason750_1
1841 Census, Aylburton
Richard PHILLIPS - age 25 - not born in County
Ann PHILLIPS - age 35 - born in County
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Gloucestershire BDM
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
PHILLIPS - mother's maiden name TYLER - Forest of Dean, Lydney
William 1841, Charles 1843, Jane 1845
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1851 Census, Aylburton
Richard PHILLIPS - age 34, born Monmouth
Ann PHILLIPS - age 43, born Berkeley
William - 10 - all children born Aylburton
Charles - 8
Jane - 5
1861 Census, Civil Parish Newland (original on Ancestry, very faint) - inc. Bream, Bream Eaves, and Pastors???
Richard PHILLIPS - age 55, born Langatock, Monmouthshire
Anne PHILLIPS - age 60, born Hams Green, Gloucestershire (which is Berkeley, Glos)
Charles PHILLIPS, age 18 - born (transcribed as... Ashburton, Glos)
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Lodger, Joseph SAINSAM age 66
NEXT DOOR
[b]William TILEY - age 30 c1831 ---- Coal Miner - born Bream[/b] IS THIS A RELATION OF ANN (nee TYLER/TILEY of) PHILLIPS
Jane TILEY - age 16 - born ditto
Thomas TILEY - 5 months, born ditto
Richard MORGAN, nephew age 4 - born ditto (FOD records, Richard MORGAN m Maria BEACH 10 November 1855, Newland)
(The only record so far is: William TILEY christened 24 April 1825, at Stinchombe - bas child of Maria - who possibly married Joseph FAWKE...)
Marriage on FOD records - 31 December 1860
William TILEY - Bachelor, full age - Collier, residence, Hundred of St Briavels,
father: William TILEY, labourer
married
Jane PHILLIPS, age 16, - Spinster, residence, Alvington
father: Richard PHILLIPS, labourer
married by banns
witnesses: John MORGAN and Phillis BEACH
other witnesses: Walter WILLIAMS
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1871 Census, Glos West Dean
Private House
Charles PHILLIPS, 28, Iron Miner, born Aylburton, Glos
Phillis PHILLIPS - 30 - born West Dean
Betty SMITH - age 63 - mother in law, formerly Chair woman, born Newland
1881 Census, Glos. Bream
Charles PHILLIPS - age 37 (place of birth, ditto from families above) saying born Bream
Phillis PHILLIPS - age 39 - born ditto
Elizabeth SMITH - age 73, mother in law, born ditto
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Marriage on FOD records at Bream - 14 June 1884
William ROBERTS age 60, Widower, Miner of Horreel Hill BREAM
father: Thomas ROBERTS, labourer
married
Phillis PHILLIPS, age 43, widow - residnece: Breams Meend
Brides Father's Surname : BEACH, Forename: Thomas, Collier, by Banns
witnesses: Richard WILDIN and Lucy Ann Wilden
1891 Census Bream
Phillis ROBERTS - age 50 - Head
Charles PHILLIPS
by m p griffiths , Thursday, April 28, 2011, 15:19 (4965 days ago) @ m p griffiths
When William ROBERTS, married Phillis PHILLIPS (widow) of Charles PHILLIPS - witnesses were Richard & Lucy Ann WILDIN
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar - 1884
PHILLIPS Charles
11 June.
The Will of Charles PHILLIPS late of West Dean in the County of Gloucester who died 5 November 1883 at West Dean was proved at Gloucester by Richard WILDIN of West Dean Innkeeper and George BATTEN of Newland in the said County, Quarryman, the Executors.
Personal Estate £5
1881 Census Glos
Breams Meand?
Public House
WILDIN
Richard 33 - Innkeeper born Bream
Lucy - 28
William - 7
Charles - 5
Federick - 4
Lucy - 2
Charles PHILLIPS
by mossup12 , Saturday, July 25, 2020, 18:47 (1589 days ago) @ m p griffiths
hi i am currently investigating richard wildin and which pub in fact he owned,
Charles PHILLIPS
by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Saturday, July 25, 2020, 20:37 (1589 days ago) @ mossup12
There is an association here of a Richard Wildin with the Miners’ Rest, Yorkley.
BNA Monmouthshire Beacon - Saturday 04 April 1891
COLEFORD. Police Court, Tuesday.—Before Col. Davies (in the chair), Isaiah Trotter, Esq, and F. Blandy Esq.
Transferred. —The license of the Ostrich Inn, Newland, was temporarily transferred from Mrs. Ann Perry to Mr. John T. Fido, also the license of the Nag’s Head Inn, Whitecliff, from Mr. Henry Miller lo Mr. John Jones; and the Miners’ Rest, Yorkley, from Mr. Richard Wildin to Mr. William Baker.
Charles PHILLIPS
by mossup12 , Saturday, July 25, 2020, 20:41 (1589 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin
Thats is so bizare. I just found a mention of the miners rest which was in the tufts bream . This is where richard wildin lives.
I wonder if yorkley was a mistake.
Thank you so much for replying
Charles PHILLIPS
by MPGriffiths , Sunday, July 26, 2020, 14:09 (1588 days ago) @ mossup12
Parkend Polling District - Township of West Dean, south 1878
WILDIN Richard - Place of Abode: Bream Tufts - house and garden - Bream Tufts
Morris & Co Commerical Directory & Gazetteer of West Dean 1876
WILDIN and HATHAWAY, limeburners, Breams Mesne
WILDIN Richard, jun., beer retailer, Bream Mesne
1881 Census, Gloucestershire, West Dean - Page 25 of 27
Tufts
Breams Mesne
Public house
Richad WILDIN aged 33, Innkeeper, born Gloucestershiure, Bream
Charles PHILLIPS
by MPGriffiths , Sunday, July 26, 2020, 14:30 (1588 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Under 'Inquests' on this site - and searching for WILDIN - there are quite a number and 3 for Richard (1880) (1881) and (1883)
1880 - was held at the Kings Head Inn, Bream Woodside
1881 - was held at the Rising Sun Inn Bream
1883 - was held at the Rising Sun Inn Bream
There may be other clues in these Inquests.
Charles PHILLIPS
by MPGriffiths , Sunday, July 26, 2020, 20:57 (1588 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Google:
The Tufts - Bream Heritage Walks
8 - The Tufts
The building 30 or so metres to the right is now a private house, but once a beerhouse or public houses and was called the Miner's Rest. etc etc.
..... later on in this article
An accident in 1864 was widely reported in the press. Stopping in for a drink three young men and their girlfriends were involved in a tragic shooting in the Miners Rest when one of the young men grabbed a gun from the wall and pointed it at another. The third pulled the trigger. Unfortunately the gun was loaded and the third young man, Charles Preest was killed.
etc.etc.
His burial is on FOD records
13 October 1864. Charles PREEST aged 16 - residence Bream
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British History on Line
'In the Bream area, the Rising Sun, on the edge of the Forest north of the old part of Bream village...... Later lincensed houses in the area included a beerhouse at Bream's Eaves in 1841, the Two Swans in High Street southwest of the Rising Sun in 1869, and the King's Head at Bream Woodside, the Miners' Rest at Bream's Meend, and the Miners' Arms on the Coleford road at Bream Tufts in the late 1870's. etc. etc.
Richard PHILLIPS- 1881/1891 census
by m p griffiths , Thursday, April 28, 2011, 15:36 (4965 days ago) @ jason750_1
1881 Census, West Dean, Mill Hill
Richard PHILLIPS - age 73 (c1808) General Labourer, born Monmouthshire Vibon-Avel **
Ann PHILLIPS - age 76 (c1805) born Gloucestershire, Berkeley
** which is LLangattock (ties up with earlier census)
1891 Census, Pillowell
West Dean
transcribed as MARGASON (but census, badly written, looks like MORGAN)
William MARGASON - 48 - born West Dean
Jane MARGASON - 45 (Jane's 2nd Marriage) - born Lydney
Richard PHILLIPS - 80 - father in law, born LLanattock, Monmouthshire
1881 Census West Dean, Pillowell
William MORGAN - 38 - born West Dean
Jane MORGAN - 35 - born Lydney Parish
Ann TYLER/poss TYLEY
by m p griffiths , Thursday, April 28, 2011, 18:03 (4965 days ago) @ jason750_1
Church of Latter Day Saints, baptism at Berkeley
Ann TILEY, 6 November 1808, mother Ann
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There is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry listing a
Mary TYLER, who married a Joseph FAWKE at Ledbury - 1838 - saying she was born in Berkeley - who in 1852, she marries a Robert JONES in Ledbury, Herefordshire
looking at the FOD records at Ledbury
Joseph FAWKE, Widower, of Falcon Lane, labourer
married
Maria TYLEY - Spinster, Servant of Falcon Lane,
father: John TYLEY, labourer - by Banns
Looking at the Gloucestershire Birth Index - there is a Maria TILEY - christened 7 December 1817 at Berkeley, mother Sarah
1841 Census Ledbury
FAWKE
Joseph - 50
Maria - 25
Joseph - 12
John - 10
Elizabeth - 1
James - 1 month
1861 Census, Herefordshire, Ledbury
Falcon Lane
JONES
Robert - 53 - Ag. Lab. born Castle Frome, Hereford
Maria - 40 - born Glos. Berkeley
David - 12 - born Herefordshire, Bosbury
Robert - 6 - all born Ledbury
Charles - 4
Alfred - 2
Sally - 7
Ann FAWKE, step daughter age 12 -
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Ann PHILLIPS (nee TYLER or TILEY) says she was born in Ham, Berekely
just in case....
1851 Census, Ham
Thomas TILEY - 33 c1818 - christening at Berkeley, 25 September 1817, mother Ann (labourer) no mention of father
Sarah - 29
Charles - 6
Sarah - 5
Fanny - 3
Richard PHILLIPS - born 1817, Monmouthsire Vibon Avel
by m p griffiths , Saturday, April 30, 2011, 14:35 (4963 days ago) @ m p griffiths
There are Public Members trees on Ancestry: William PHILLIPS married Dorothy PERKINS 10 September 1804 - Llangattock Vibon Avel
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Monmouthshire Parish Record Transcripts - Christenings at Monmouthshire Vibon Avel
Baptisms 1787 - 1812
No. 269
10 September 1809 - John & Jas - twins of Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS
No. 271
12 April 1812
Mary d/o Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS
Baptisms 1813 - 1877
No. 12
Sarah - d/o Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS otp labr
No. 40
Richd s/o Wm (ag Lab) & Dorothy PHILLIPS otp - 4 July 1816
No 89
Chas - ditto - 13 September 1819
No 181
Anne - ditto - 2 December 1825
No. 221
Jane - ditto - 11 October 1829
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1841 Census, Monmouthshire Llangattock, Vibon Avel, District 39
Perry Coed Cottage
William PHILIPS - 55 ag. lab. born in County
Dorothy PHILIPS - 50 - born in County
Jane PHILIPS - 10
Elizabeth PHILIPS - 85 - ag lab
Jane THOMAS - 40
John Cidley - 7
Edward THOMAS - 2 months
Burials on Monmouthshire Parish Record Transcript website
Burials 1813-1900 at Vibon Avel, No. 276
Dorothy PHILLIPS - Pentre Wood, itp - 31 August 1845, age 62
1851 Census, Monmouthshire, Llangattock, Vibon Avel
Perry Coed
William PHILIPS - (Widr) age 70 Ag Lab - born Llangattock
John WATKINS - 27 son-in-law - born Mon. Skenfrith
Ann WATKINS - 26 - born Mon. Llangattock V.A.
Jane - 5
John - 3
Eliza - 9 months
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No. 346
burial 11 May 1853, Wm PHILLIPS otp - age 76
William/Charles/Jane - family names given by Richard PHILLIPS to his children