Priscilla BALDWIN - Who were her ancestors?

At the time of the 1841 census Moses ROBERTS and Priscilla were living at Harry Hill (now Harrow Hill) with their five children. Births of four of their children are recorded in the Drybrook parish records. Moses is a coal miner. Although I have yet to confirm it it appears almost certain that Priscilla died at Nailbridge in 1846. An IGI submission by a LDS member states that Priscilla's maiden name is BALDWIN and that she married Moses at Abinghall on 26 Feb 1827. Jim Ashton also mentions in Forum that Moses married married Priscilla BALDWIN. I cannot find any record of this marriage or Priscilla's ancestors. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Peter I.

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Since posting this message I have found her marriage details. Her name was mispelt but I should have looked more thoroughly but I am still interested in her ancestors.

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Year: 1827
Month: Feb
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BALDWIN
Brides_Forenames: Pricilla
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St. Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Joseph Pane[?]
Witness_2: Ann Trigg
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 37
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall

1841
Moses Roberts abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Presilla Roberts abt 1808 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Lucy Roberts abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sophia Roberts abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Roberts abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Roberts abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Rebecka Roberts abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Meck abt 1814 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Milsom Hale Baldwin abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

<> looks like the correct Moses
Year: 1841
Month: Aug
Day: 21
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Moses
Residence: Harry Hill
Age_at_death: 34 years
Officiating_Minister: R.T.Budd
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/11
Page_No: 67
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Year: 1846
Month: Feb
Day: 11
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Priscilla
Residence: Nailbridge
Age_at_death: 35 years
Officiating_Minister: W.C.Badger
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Note in Name Column-1st row
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/11
Page_No: 90
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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Thanks Slowhands, I thought I might get a rapid response from you, but I did not expect one quite as quickly. Thanks particularly for the death record for Moses. Now I know why I could not find him in the later census records.

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Hi Isherwop

I couldn't reply as quickly as Slowhands, I was actually in Yellowstone when you posted this. I just had a quick look at the Forum and this one stood out.

Thanks Slowhands for the details. The marriage was the one I had for Moses and Priscilla. I didn't however have the burial details. I was at first a little confused as I have 1841 as the death of Moses Roberts father also Moses Roberts 1773/1841 - his burial on 31st Jul 1841 Drybrook, his wife Mary Hayward 1771/1841 was buried 17 May 1841 also at Drybrook. A sad year for them.

Unfortunately, this doesn't answer the original question regarding the ancestors of Priscilla Baldwin. A question I too would like the answer to, having 467 Baldwin's, it would be nice to make a connection.

Jim Ashton

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If you use the Advance Search for witnesses (and look for a Priscilla or Moses ROBERTS)

There is a marriage at Hope Mansell - 29 November 1834

when

Edward MEEK - the Hundred of St Briavels

married

Mary BALDWIN - the Hundred of St Briavels

witnesses: Moses ROBERTS and Priscilla ROBERTS

If you look at the 1841 census, there is a Mary age 27 Ind (c1814) (translated as MECK) living with them at St Briavels - and a Milsom Hale BALDWIN age 9

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FOD records

Baptism at Newland - 19 July 1832

Milsom Hale BALDWIN - father not stated

Mother : Mary

Residence: Workhouse Coleford

Singlewoman

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FOD records

Baptism at Ruardean - 11 November 1832

Milson Hale HALE

father's name: Milson

mother: Mary

Mother's Surname: BALDWIN

residence : Forest of Dean

Occupation: Collier

Natural son of

May also be known as BALDWIN

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1851 Census, Westbury Union House

Edward MEEK, age 39, Widower, Inmate, Collier, born East Dean

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Thanks for your help. You have taught me a new trick - how to use the witness option in the wedding search category to obtain additional information. Mary is without doubt Priscilla's sister and the story of her illegitimate son fascinating and improbable if I had not read it myself. I always thought you were only baptised once but it weems in Mary's case she was baptised twice so that her Fathers name could be added to her name. She than later marries someone else. Its all very interesting but unfortunately has not led me any closer to Priscilla's ancestors.

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Gloucestershire Record Office may also hold information of Milson HALE/BALDWIN

re (Born out of Wedlock) - and this in turn may give you more information of Mary BALDWIN and her background (or time in the workhouse)

The Gloucestershire Records Office Genealogical Database - show a Milson HALE, age 25, Collier Ruardean, Goal - 15 October 1834 (On Ancestry also, not guilty of Larceny)

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=7114

History of Coleford

'A sign that Coleford was the chief settlement in Newland Parish was that the Newland Parish Workhouse was sited in the town on the corner of St John & Banks Street'

http://www.colefordtowncouncil.gov.uk/info/history-of-coleford

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Jim, Thanks for your message. You will have seen from the contribution from mpgriffiths that we have discovered a sister for Priscilla but still no parents. I have recently requested two Moses Roberts wills dated 1842 from the Gloucester Archives Office. They are both from the Harry Hill Ruadean area and but I am not too optimistic they will be of relevance as I don't think coalminers normally had wills but if they contain anything useful I will let you know.

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