Harry Lambert Howell, died WW1, enlisted Lydney (General)

by ttd0 @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 15:03 (4892 days ago)

Am trying to find out more on this soldier.

War graves record shows:
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=871482

Gloucester regiment museum website says he was born in Welshpool and enlisted in Lydney. I have found his birth entry on FreeBMD (Jan 1893), have also found him on the 1901 census, living in Lancashire.

Am now trying to find his connection to Lydney, I assume he was living there or somewhere in the Forest when he enlisted.

My starting point was the 1911 census but I can't seem to find him anywhere on there.

Any help much appreciated.

Tim.

Harry Lambert Howell, died WW1, enlisted Lydney

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 15:30 (4892 days ago) @ ttd0

Tim

By Looking at the 1901 census- North Manchester,

Harry L HOWELL age 9 - born Welshpool, with staying with his Aunt - who was born in Clearwell, Glos.

Thomas PATES - age 47 - Walking Stick Worker, born Thrupp, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth E PATES - age 43 - born Glos. Clearwell
Henry PATES - age 23 - born Thrupp, Gloucestershire
Harry L HOWELL - nephew - age 8 - born Welshpool

Harry Lambert Howell, died WW1, enlisted Lydney

by ttd0 @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 15:55 (4892 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Thanks, so in 1901 was with his Aunt (in Lancashire I believe).

Just can't find him in 1911, which I was hoping would trace his prescense in the Forest.

Thomas PATES/Elizabeth A LAMBERT

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 21:03 (4892 days ago) @ ttd0

Elizabeth E PATES is Thomas second wife. - he is married to a Jane E - on the 1891 census


1891 Census, Stroud, Thrupp

3 Spring Cottages

PATES

Thomas - 37 - Wood Carver, all born Stroud
Jane E - 32 - Clother Weaver
Ellen - 24 - Spinnner
Ada - 16 - General Servant
Harry - 12


Looking at the Gloucestershire BDM site


Thomas PATES married Elizabeth A LAMBERT - Stroud Register Office - 1894.


http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

therefore..... Harry L HOWELL's mother Sarah (wife of William) should be a LAMBERT...

William HOWELL/Sarah Sophia Maria LAMBERT(PACKER)

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 21:18 (4892 days ago) @ m p griffiths

As Harry LAMBERT HOWELL - was in 1918 - the Son of the late William & Sarah HOWELL

Marriage on FOD records - at Clearwell - 21 May 1885

William HOWELL - age 27, Bachelor, residence Kilkenny, Ireland

Soldier


father: John (late) labourer

married


Sarah Sophia Maria LAMBERT age 25, Spinster, Clearwell

father: Edward LAMBERT, Quarryman


by banns


witnesses: Edward SMILES and Thomas HOWELL

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1891 Census, Newland

LAMBERT

Mary Elizabeth - 54
Edwin - 23
Harry - 16
Willie - 14

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1881 Census, Clearwell

LAMBERT

Edward - married - 50 - Stone Cutter - all born Clearwell
Sarah - daughter - 21 - General Servant
Edwin - Son - 13 - Works in a stone quarry
Kate - 11 - Scholar
Harry - son -6 - Scholar
Willis - son - 3
Sarah PACKER - Lodger, Widow - 83 - no occupation - born Newcastle, Monmouthshire


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1871 Census, Clearwell
Newland

Sarah E PACKER, Widow - 72 - born Newcastle, Monmouthshire
LAMBERT

Edward - 39 - Stone Cutter
Mary - 3 - 34
Sarah S - 11
Harriet - 9
Mary J - 7
Edwin J - 3
Catharine A- 1

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1861 Census, Clearwell

LAMBERT

Edwin - 29 - Stone Cutter, all born Clearwell
Mary - 24
Elizabeth - 4 (assume who married Thomas PATES)
Sarah - 1


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FOD records - Marriage at Newland - 28 February 1856

Edward LAMBERT, Bachelor, age 24 - Tradesman, residence- Clearwell
father: Thomas LAMBERT, Tradesman

married

Mary Elizabeth PACKER, age 19 - Spinster, residence Clearwell

father: Thomas PACKER, painter, by Banns


witnesses: Thomas PACKER and Eliza Emma REED

Harry Lambert Howell, died WW1, enlisted Lydney

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 22:41 (4891 days ago) @ ttd0

Tom

On Ancestry

British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index Cards - give a couple more Reg. Numbers for Harry L HOWELLS apart from 242379 - quoted in your reference.


18086 and 20400 - all 3 Gloucs - Pte

and

Victory L/101.B14 - and British (ditto underneath)


and

Harry Lambert HOWELLS

birthplace: Welshpool, Yorks


24 June 1918

death location : France & Flanders


Lydney, Glos

Private

Gloucestershire Regiment

12th (Service) - Bristol, Battalion

Killed in Action

Western European Theatre

Harry Lambert HowellS, 1911 census

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, July 07, 2011, 22:54 (4891 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Here he is 1911 census....


Address: Clearwell Near Coleford

Elizabeth Ann PRITCHARD - married 5 years - age 53, Housekeeper, born Clearwell, Glos
Mary E LAMBERT - Mother, Widow - female - age 73 - born Clearwell Glos
Harry L HOWELLS - Nephew, Single - age 18 - Motor Haulage Driver, born Welshpool, Wales

Great War Forum - list HOWELLS Harry Lambert 3


http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=129864

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