John & Eleanor GRINDELL c1790s Newland (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 00:32 (4880 days ago) @ Jefff

James' parents John & Elinor,
From this site's PRs:

Record_ID: 64954
Entry_Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Jan
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: GRINDEL
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: EVANS
Brides_Forenames: Elinnor
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Of the parish of Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John Bennett
Witness_2: Robt Turney
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Griffith Davies Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG52/4
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Lea
Soundex_Groom: G653
Soundex_Bride: E152

Is it unusual for marriage to be at the Groom's home Chapel, not Newland ?.
Why no parents ?

Record_ID: 100158
Entry_Number: 80
Year: 1789
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elinor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 263494
Entry_Number:
Year: 1789
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 792
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 263709
Entry_Number:
Year: 1791
Month: Dec
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Henry
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 808
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 264081
Entry_Number:
Year: 1795
Month: May
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 835
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 264436
Entry_Number:
Year: 1798
Month: Nov
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 859
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 100382
Entry_Number: 309
Year: 1798
Month: Nov
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Ele[text missing]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: date sequence is 1798
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 264718
Entry_Number:
Year: 1801
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Jeremiah Evans
Fathers_Forenames: Jno [John]
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 100471
Entry_Number: 398
Year: 1802
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Jeremiah Evans
Fathers_Forenames: Jno [John]
Mothers_Forenames: Elinor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: The year is brought do from missing text but dated nearest entries are 1802
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653

Guess John Senior born abt 1758 if not before, but still uncertain which Baptism is his, there are three possibles from FoD PRs:

Possibility 1 ?

Record_ID: 166152
Entry_Number:
Year: 1755
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

Or Possibility 2 ?

Record_ID: 245372
Entry_Number:
Year: 1753
Month: Jul
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: GRINDEL
Child_Forenames: Jno John
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name. Father John
Register_Reference: P227 IN 4/1
Page_Number: 263
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

NB: A John GRINDALL of Newland Parish married Mary Aston 24 years later in 1777, so perhaps this isn't our John.

Or Maybe Possibility 3 ?

Record_ID: 222472
Entry_Number:
Year: 1752
Month: Jan
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: GRINDAL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Will[iam]
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John Lewis Priest
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes: Old style date 1751/52
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: G653

NB: A John GRINDAL of W-o-S Parish married Margaret Gibbons 21 years later in 1773, perhaps this isn't our John either.

Conclusion:
From the FoD PRs, there's only one John Grindle(et al) Marriage in the right time era, and thats Possibility 1 above, so I think he's PROBABLY "our" John.

So James father is John b June 1, 1755, parents John & Mary: