Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy (General)

by cchuggins, (5208 days ago)

I have two publications which may be of interest to people researching the Mountjoy family. in the Forest. I would dearly love to share them with the site but I do not seem to be able to determine how to contact the authors and was wondering if anyone could help so that I could share them? I have drawn a complete blank with the internet. Perhaps I need to be contacting descendents of the authors but again no idea who they might be or where to start.

The first is: Joseph & Rosanna Mountjoy's Family by Barbara Owen, April 2003

The second is a chapter from : A Mountjoy Family at Clearwell Meend by Cyril R Mountjoy, 1989.

I have tried to contact a well-known Mountjoy researcher, Brian Mountjoy in NZ, as I thought he might know how to contact these people, but have been unsuccessful in receiving a reply.

Many thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.

Cerys

Barbara Owen - website regarding the surname KEAR

by m p griffiths, (5208 days ago) @ cchuggins

http://www.nockamixon.us/BC/surnames/kear.htm

This website by Nancy (email address at end of article) seems to talk about 'her sister' Barbara OWEN - who appears to have written a books on FOD inc James KEAR of Cinderford...... (Owen 1989)

Barbara Owen - website regarding the surname KEAR

by cchuggins, (5204 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Thank you - I had found the website you talk of, but had missed the part where it said about Barbara being the sister!

Appreciate your help and will continue to try to track the family down :-)

Cyril Ronald MOUNTJOY 1912 - 1992 Clearwell - Cwmbach

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5204 days ago) @ cchuggins

Name: Cyril R Mountjoy
Mother's Maiden Name: Watts
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1912
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 34

Name: Cyril Ronald Mountjoy
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1912
Date of Registration: Apr 1992
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 346

of Pant Villa, 55 Aberdare rd Cwmbach, Aberdare died 27th April 1992

15 Oct 1938
First name(s) Cyril R
County Monmouthshire
Last name Mountjoy
Country Wales
Marriage quarter 4
Volume 11A
Marriage year 1938
Volume as transcribed 11A
Registration month -
Page number 125
Marriage
Cyril R Mountjoy married Linda M James
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name James
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Bedwellty
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce


1939 131 Pennant Street, Ebbw Vale
Benjamin J James 10 Jun 1893 Male Colliery Hewer Married 225 1
Beatrice E James 14 Sep 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 225 2
Linda M Mountjay - Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 225 3
Winifred M Beynon (James) 01 Sep 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 225 4
The record for this person is officially closed.

siblings ?
Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Mountjoy Cyril R Watts Monmouth 11a 34
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Mountjoy Eunice I A Watts Monmouth 11a 33
Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
MOUNTJOY Dorrien H Watts Monmouth 11a 28
MOUNTJOY Gilbert D Watts Monmouth 11a 28
Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Mountjoy Grenville T Watts Monmouth 11a 28

possibly :-

Year: 1915
Month: May
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: MOUNTJOY
Child_Forenames: Cyril Arnold
Fathers_Forenames: Harry
Mothers_Forenames: Florence
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Sling
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: W Robinson
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Aug 12 1912
Notes: The date in the Memoranda column is probably the birth date. Page Nos 90 - 99 were incorrectly numbered. The page number used here is the amended number.
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 93
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Barbara OWEN nee KEAR 1931

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5204 days ago) @ cchuggins

Name: Barbara Kear
Spouse Surname: Jack Owen
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Registration district: Staines
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5f
Page Number: 676

Births Dec 1953 (>99%) ?????
OWEN Gwyneth KEAR Cheltenham 7b 416

I think these are the Kear sisters and parents :-

Name: Ivor E Kear
Spouse Surname: Elizabeth J Marfell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 717

Elizabeth M Kear Jul-Aug-Sep 1927 Monmouth Wales

Barbara H Kear Apr-May-Jun 1931 Monmouth Wales

First name(s) Ivor Evans
County Gloucestershire
Last name Kear
Country England
Death year 1959
Linked persons Robert Thomas Kear
Death date 09 May 1959
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Probate year 1959
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Probate date 31 Dec 1959
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Probate registry Gloucester
Collections from Great Britain, England
Residence town France Lynch

1939 St Aldates Vicerage Finlay Road, Gloucester,
Rev? Ivor Evans Kear 09 Sep 1890 Male Clerk In Holy Orders Married 20 1
Eliz? Jane Kear 03 Nov 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 20 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed

First name(s) I
Number of volumes 1
Last name Kear
World War 1 records List of all members who served in the war, with more detailed lists of those who were killed or decorated
Year 1920
Information included None
Dates 1920
Archive Modern Records Centre
Union name National Union Of Teachers
Archive reference MSS.179/1/57/353
Union branch Forest of Dean
Source Trade Union Members, Service & Casualties 1914-1918
Union branch (transcription) Forest of Dean
Record set British Rolls Of Honour And Nominal Rolls, First World War
County Gloucestershire
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Country England
Subcategory First World War
Record title War Record
Collections from Great Britain, England
Publication National Union of Teachers War Record

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Year: 1925
Month: Aug
Day: 3
Grooms_Surname: KEAR
Grooms_Forenames: Ivor Evans
Grooms_Age: 34
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Schoolmaster
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: KEAR
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Confectioner
Brides_Surname: MARFELL
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth Jane
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Holy Trinity
Brides_Fathers_Surname: MARFELL
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Colliery Examiner
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: B Marfell
Witness_2: George Kear
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W M Bellamy Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Bride signs in her married name
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

George KEAR 1863 f/o Ivor E KEAR 1890

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (75 days ago) @ slowhands

1939 9 Wesley Rd Cinderford
George Kear 06 Jun 1862 Male Baker Retired Married 337 1
Emma Anna Kear 27 Nov 1868 Female Domestic Duties Married 337 2
Elizabeth Hart 03 Sep 1911 Female Domestic Service Teacher Single 337 3
Margaret Bromley English (Shann) 01 Aug 1912 Female Physical Training Teacher Married 337 4

1921
George Emma and Blanche


1911 Market St Cindeford
George Kear Head Married Male 48 1863 Grocer and baker Cinderford Glos
Emma Anna Kear Wife Married Female 42 1869 Assisting in business Cinderford Glos
George Howard Kear Son - Male 6 1905 - Cinderford Glos
Alice Glastonbury Servant Single Female 20 1891 General servant domestic Cinderford Glos


1901 Station Street, Cinderford East Dean,
George Kear Head Married Male 38 1863 Baker & grocer East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emma A Kear Wife Married Female 32 1869 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ivor E Kear Son Single Male 10 1891 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Henry F Kear Son Single Male 9 1892 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jessie M Kear Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ethel M Moore Servant Single Female 15 1886 Gen servant (domestic) East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1891 Bilson Rd Cinderford
George Kear Head Married Male 28 1863 Baker & confectioner Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Emma A Kear Wife Married Female 22 1869 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Ivor Evans Kear Son - Male 0 1891 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
William A Brown Boarder Single Male 22 1869 Clerk at colliery Redruth, Cornwall, England

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy

by breckenridge2020, (1935 days ago) @ cchuggins

Cyril R Mountjoy was my uncle; he was my fathers older brother. I have been trying to track down a copy of the book/pamphlet he wrote for a number of years. I moved away from the Forest in 1967 to join the Royal Air Force and never really returned as my father passed away in 1969.
He had two daughters Carole and Cheryl sadly Carol passed away last year , however, Cheryl is alive and well and lives near Coleford.

Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy

by cchuggins, (1934 days ago) @ breckenridge2020

Hi,
I posted the original enquiry in 2011 as I believed Cyril had researched the Mountjoy name.
Do you know the title of his pamphlet?
I was previously in touch with Barbara Owen & she had published her research. I think I have a copy of it somewhere so could see if it’s mentioned in that if you want.
I guess we’re probably distant cousins somehow - my grandmother was a Mountjoy, but born in South Wales, descended from a line which moved there in the 1850-60s.
Best wishes,
Cerys

Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy

by breckenridge2020, (1934 days ago) @ cchuggins

Hi - Yes he did a family history I believe it was called "A family Mountjoy at Clearwell Meend" or something similar which is what I am trying to track down as my own granddaughter is interested in our family history.

My cousin Carol (Cyril's daughter) lived in South Wales (Hirwaun) most of her life and when Cyril left the Army after the war (he was awarded the Military Medal for bravery during the war) he settled in South Wales although his mother and father, my grandparents, (Harry and Florence Mountjoy nee Watts) lived in the Forest of Dean initially in Clearwell then in Bream. Harry died around 1952 and was a miner and Florence in 1982.

Cyril was one of 4 children, Eunice, Grenville (my father) and Dorian who died during the 1918 flu outbreak.

Eunice married Eric Hawkins had two boys Philip and John my parents Grenville and Belinda nee Harris had two boys myself and Garrick. I was born in Aberkenfig.

We may be distant cousins it would be interesting to trace the family as Cyril did try however that was before the power of the internet resources available today.

regards

Roger

Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy

by cchuggins, (1930 days ago) @ breckenridge2020

HI Roger,

Thanks for the background. I don't have Harry Mountjoy on my tree, but I expect we are distant relatives. Have you or your granddaughter taken a DNA test? I have done and Ancestry one and a 23and Me.

According to my original post, somewhere in my house I have a chapter of the book you mentioned. I can't remember where I obtained it, but it may have been in the library The Gage Library at the Dean Heritage Centre, near Cinderford, which I visited some years ago.

I will try to have a look for it over the bank holiday weekend. Unfortunately I'm guilty of having paperwork in multiple boxes/locations!

my email address is cerys.baigent@gmail.com. If you could let me know yours I will email it if I can find it.

Best wishes,
Cerys

Seeking Barbara Owen and Cyril R Mountjoy

by Mariadm, (76 days ago) @ breckenridge2020

Hello

Was this the same Mountjoy who worked as a teacher at Finlay Riad Junior School?

Was his wife named Molly? Dis she work at Permali or Minalex/Midalex on the,Bristol Road, Gloucester and as an office worker?

Regards
Maria Del Medico
Mariadelmedico@gmail.com

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