James HARRIS probably abt 1845 (General)
by itzjoolz 
, Monday, October 17, 2011, 17:59 (4782 days ago)
Prior Thread http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=34072
Im really stuck, ive searched endlessly through the parish records.
Looking for James Harris, father of William George Harris 1870.
witness at the son williams wedding are Samuel and Elizabeth Harris, I was thinking this was another son of James but I cannot find any Samuel or James or Elizabeth (whom may be a harris by marriage)and do not know the name of James wife either.
Can anyone help please.
James HARRIS
by m p griffiths , Monday, October 17, 2011, 18:19 (4782 days ago) @ itzjoolz
'locked' previous thread
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1861 Census, East Dean, Ruspidge
HARRIS
James - 29 - all born East Dean
Emma - 27
James - 8
Elizabeth - 4
Belinda - 1
1871 Census, Glos East Dean
HARRIS
James - 39 - Collier, Newnham
Emma - 39 - born Glos
James - 17 - Collier East Dean
Balenda - 12
Samuel - 9
John - 7
Alfred - 2
William - 5 months
1881 Census, W-O-S East Dean
James - 49
Emma - 49
James - 27
Samuel - 19
John - 17
William - 10
Thomas - 8
Samuel CASTLE, Board, unmarried, 38, Stone Cutter, born Oxford
James Harris c 1831
by Simone , Monday, October 17, 2011, 18:24 (4782 days ago) @ itzjoolz
Hi
I reckon Samuel is William's brother too :)
1871 census
RG10; Piece: 2600; Folio: 32; Page: 12
all born East Dean
James Harris 39 bNewnham, Collier
Emma Harris 39
James Harris 17
Balenda Harris 12
Samuel Harris 9
John Harris 7
Alfred Harris 2
William Harris 5 Months
marriage for parents
37141
Entry Number 122
Year 1852
Month Nov
Day 13
Grooms Surname HARRIS
Grooms Forenames James
Grooms Age 21
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Miner
Grooms Residence Ruspidge
Grooms Fathers Surname Harris
Grooms Fathers Forenames John
Grooms Fathers Occupation Labourer
Brides Surname COX
Brides Forenames Emma
Brides Age 21
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Ruspidge
Brides Fathers Surname Cox
Brides Fathers Forenames James
Brides Fathers Occupation Cabinet Maker
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark He signs She marks
Witness 1 Mark of Ephraim Beach
Witness 2 Maria Beach
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister T. G. Smythies
Event Marriage
Elizabeth Harris
by Simone , Monday, October 17, 2011, 18:39 (4782 days ago) @ itzjoolz
I wonder if witness Elizabeth is grandmother?
1841 census at Newnham
HO107; Piece 364; Book: 5;Folio: 8; Page: 9
Elizabeth Harris 45
James Harris 10
baptism
133918
Entry Number 981
Year 1831
Month Jun
Day 26
Parents Surname HARRIS
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames John
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister T Morgan Off[iciatin]g Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes Register shows James as dau[ghte]r
Register Reference P50 IN1/1
Page Number 123
Parish Chapel Blakeney
HARRIS/BEACH- 1851 Census
by m p griffiths , Monday, October 17, 2011, 18:42 (4782 days ago) @ Simone
Here's the link to the witnesses at the wedding of James HARRIS to Emma COX in 1862
Ruspidge - 1851
John HARRIS, 71, labourer, born Glos
Elizabeth - 60 - born Blakeney
James Harris - 18 - Iron Miner, born Awre
Ephraim BEACH - Visitor, mar - 37 - born Awre
Maria BEACH (nee HARRIS) - Visitor, mar - 24 - born Awre
Elam BEACH - 25
Ann Maria BEACH - 1
Ephraim and Maria on FOD records - marriage at Cinderford St John 13 June 1846
HARRIS/BEACH- 1851 Census
by itzjoolz , Monday, October 17, 2011, 18:58 (4782 days ago) @ m p griffiths
oh wow, thankyou so much. Ive been searching through the inquests and wills
I havent got access to the census
HARRIS/BEACH- 1851 Census
by m p griffiths , Monday, October 17, 2011, 20:56 (4782 days ago) @ itzjoolz
for starters - As James' Mum was from Blakeney - you will find his baptism there 26 June 1831 (FOD records) along with Maria - 18 February 1827
siblings at Blakeney: Sarah 1814, Thomas 1818, William 1821, Mary Ann 1823, James 1831
HARRIS/BEACH- 1851 Census
by itzjoolz , Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 18:05 (4781 days ago) @ m p griffiths
ok ive got parents as John and Elizabeth dob inconsistant to the census results.
siblings at Blakeney:
Sarah 1814, Thomas 1818, William 1821, Mary Ann 1823,Maria 1827 James 1831
Then James and Emma Cox marriage
siblings
James 1953
Then theres an Elizabeth 1857(On Census) But I think she was a cousin
Belinda 1860
Samuel 1861
John 1864
Alfred 1869
William 1870
Have William George and Annie Reece (marriage 1893) siblings as
William 1898 (died at 8 months) Possibly
George James Samuel 1903
Lavinia 1906
Hedley Enoch 1908
Bernard Morgan 1909
Beatrice Winifred 1916
Edgar Alfred 1918
Some rather large age gaps Im wondering if ive missed some as there was apparently alot of them.
Can some one look up John and Elizabeth Harris up for me on the census please their first born was sarah 1814 I dont think they knew their ages themselves I found a marriage with an Elizabeth James but that was 1811. This cant be the witness at the grandsons wedding can it?????
Thankyou so much for all the help
HARRIS/BEACH-
by m p griffiths , Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 22:24 (4781 days ago) @ itzjoolz
Had a quick look for John HARRIS in Ruspidge 1841
? may be this is the family
John HARRIS - 55 - Engineer - all born in County
Maria HARRIS - 14
Thomas HARRIS - 20 - Engineer
not sure where Elizabeth and James were
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1841 Census, Dean Forest, Newnham
Two bridges
Elizabeth HARRIS - 45
James HARRIS - 10
HARRIS/BEACH-
by itzjoolz , Thursday, October 20, 2011, 19:08 (4779 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Many Thanks for looking that up for me. I am at a total dead end now though
John and Elizabeth Harris.
I belive the marriage is that of John Harris and Elizabeth James 1811 although I could be wrong however witness are Sarah James and Abraham White
cannot find Abraham White at all but Sarah James married John Beach so theres another Beach connection.
Aside from Maria I cannot get any info on the rest of their siblings marrying and no info from the baptisms.
I cannot find baptism for John Harris, there are numerous John Harris and im basing his dob 1786 plus or minus 10 years as I dont belive he knew how old he was when he filled out the census. Elizabeth would be approx 10 years younger than him.
Abraham WHITE (witness)
by m p griffiths , Thursday, October 20, 2011, 20:28 (4779 days ago) @ itzjoolz
FOD records
Burial at Newnham - 8 June 1831 (c1778)
Abraham WHITE age 53
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Baptism at Blakeney - 17 April 1815
Henry WHITE, parents Abraham & Anne
With so many WAITES and variations of in the FOD - Abraham's surname may evolved from
Marriage at NEWNHAM - 8 October 1809
Abraham WAIT/Sarah HAWKINS
Abraham WHITE (witness)
by itzjoolz , Thursday, October 20, 2011, 21:17 (4779 days ago) @ m p griffiths
LOL Thanks for that I wouldnt have thought of that being White. I think ive found Thomas wife married in 1845 to a Jane Cocks from cundiford! which could be relation to brother James wife Emma Cox. Witness at their wedding 1819 Thomas Simmonds and Susan Simmonds (Nee REICE)OMG!
Still struggling on John Harris and parents