Lucy Maria Hodges born 1892 Redmarley (General)
Is it possible there was a third sibling with Lily & Ethel, Lucy MARIA HODGES ?.
There's some similarities with "sister" Lily in her Marriage Records from FoD PRs:
Record_ID: 65452
Entry_Number: 475
Year: 1915
Month: Jul
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: TOWNSEND
Grooms_Forenames: William Vernon Read
Grooms_Age: 24
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Soldier
Grooms_Residence: Horfield Bristol
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Townsend
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Soldier
Brides_Surname: HODGES
Brides_Forenames: Lucy Maria
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Ledbury
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hodges
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Groom
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: G N Hill
Witness_2: Florence Townsend
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Arthur J Bannister Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BO92/21
Page_Number: 238
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury
Soundex_Groom: T525
Soundex_Bride: H322
So Lucy Maria born abt 1892, father William, etc..
And sadly soon re-married, possibly the War?
Record_ID: 102237
Entry_Number: 88
Year: 1922
Month: Apr
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: Harry
Grooms_Age: 32
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Goods Guard
Grooms_Residence: Undy-Magor Newport
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Morgan
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard Edward
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: HODGES
Brides_Forenames: Lucy Maria
Brides_Age: 30
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: 70 Albert Road
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hodges
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coachman
Licence_or_Banns: License
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Charles Cooke
Witness_2: Ethel Minnie Cooke
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Fred W. Carnegy (Rector)
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: The bride's father is deceased
Register_Reference: BO92/22
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury
Soundex_Groom: M625
Soundex_Bride: H322
Is it possible witness Ethel is her sister, now married ?.
From FreeBMD:
Surname Given Name Spouse District Volume Page Transcriber
Marriages Dec 1919
Cooke Willie C. Hodges Ledbury 6a 1231 rose
Suggesting that Lucy's Witnesses are Ethel and husband "Willie C".
From FreeBMD:
Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcriber
Births Jun 1893
Cooke Willie Charles Hereford 6a 514 jwh
This is the only Record on all of FreeBMD for any "Cooke / Ethel Hodges" Marriage, without date limits, and for all the UK !.
Not a coincidence methinks.
Searching FreeBMD nationwide for Ethel M Cooke, these stand out wrt the Atcham/Shrewsbury connection:
Surname Given Name Spouse District Volume Page Transcriber
Marriages Jun 1935
Cooke Ethel M. Harley Atcham 6a 1681 sr56
Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcriber
Deaths Mar 1937
Cooke Ethel M. 50 Shrewsbury 6a 971 MargaretS
Age abt right..
However Lucy's Baptism Record shows different mother than Lily !?
Record_ID: 369464
Entry_Number: 687
Year: 1892
Month: Feb
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: HODGES
Child_Forenames: Lucy Maria
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Kings Green Redmarley
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H Morton Niblett Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Privately
Notes:
Register_Reference: P265 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 86
Parish_Chapel: Redmarley
Soundex: H322
Whereas Lily Marie/Maria:
Record_ID: 21209
Entry_Number: 302
Year: 1887
Month: Dec
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: HODGES
Child_Forenames: Lily Marie
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bush Cottages Dymock
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: DOB 29/10/1887
Notes: Private
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/25
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Dymock
Soundex: H322
Both Private Baptisms though... stepsisters ??
Revisiting FoD PRs, searching all "W Cookes":
Record_ID: 102187
Entry_Number: 38
Year: 1919
Month: Dec
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: COOKE
Grooms_Forenames: Willie Charles
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Leading Seaman R.N.
Grooms_Residence: Sunrise House Catherine Street Hereford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Cooke
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Horsekeeper
Brides_Surname: HODGES
Brides_Forenames: Ethel Minnie
Brides_Age: 24
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: 70 Albert Road ledbury
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hodges
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: H. Morgan
Witness_2: W. Hodges
Other_Witnesses: Aida Cooke Florence Townsend
Officiating_Minister: Fred W. Carnegy (Rector)
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: The bride's father is deceased
Register_Reference: BO92/22
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury
Soundex_Groom: C200
Soundex_Bride: H322
CLEARLY "sisters", same Ledbury address, same father's name, etc.
AND a Royal Navy (Devonport ?) connection too.
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- Lily Maria Hodges -
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- Lily Maria Hodges -
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2011-11-04, 22:01
- Lucy Maria Hodges born 1892 Redmarley -
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- Lucy Maria Hodges born 1892 Redmarley -
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- Lily Maria Hodges -
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