William HIBBS OR HEBES SR (General)

by unknown, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 19:22 (4723 days ago)

I have information on William HIBBS/HEBES born 1630 in the Forest of Dean, Gloucester-shire near Coleford from ancestry sites. I do not have any concrete evidence to support this. It is also indicated that he was a Quaker who was imprisoned for his religious beliefs and that he was either hanged or beheaded on March 6, 1686 for his religious beliefs. I would like to know when he was born, and if he did die as documented above. Where is he buried? His wife's name is also a mystery--Joanne? They had a son, Jonathan, who was also hanged or beheaded for being a Quaker.
The children listed are:
1.Jane, born January 14, 1655
2.Jonathan, born May 26, 1657 died about 1686
3.Mary, born 1659
4.Sarah, born January 6, 1660
5.Hannah, born November 11, 1662
6.William II, born January 23, 1665; progenitor of the U.S. Hibbs
7.Joseph, born October 10, 1668

I do have information on William Hibbs II coming to New Jersey at the age of 11 with a group of Quaker Friends on the ship Kent. They arrived in 1677. It is said his father smuggled him out of England on the Kent as a cabin boy to the Captain of the ship. I have a list indicating he was on this ship. If you have any other information on William Hibbs II I would also appreciate it as well. He is our link to the above William HIBBS SR.

I also would like to know if William HIBBS SR worked in the iron mines or did he farm or was he employed with the lumber business of that time?

William HIBBS OR HEBES SR

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 20:07 (4723 days ago) @ unknown

Lynn

I've had a look at the Gloucestershire Records office online Catalogue (on the net)

and this turns up

FindingRef - DY2/7888.2GS*DY14/10952.16GS

Title: Cry of oppression and cruelty inflicted upon divers innocent people called quakers, in the County of Glocester, for peaceable meeting together to worship God.

Sub Title: being a copy of a paper directed to the judge of the late assizes in Glocester, presented to the tender consideration of such, who are in power to relieve the oppressed.

Date (1677?)

Content Notes: Include: quaker sufferings at Winterbourne, Olveston, Kings Weston - Westerleigh, Badminton - Forest of Dean

ISBN - 030547GS

Format: Pamphlet

Number of Pages 8 p

Dimensions: 18cm

Notes: Austin 738. Concerns the Society of Friends. It is stated that "The account was taken the 22nd day of the 11th moneth, 77, by us whose Names are hereunto subscribed. Henry Lloyd, Jenkin Hopkin, William HIBBS, John HIBBS, William HOWELL, John Gwyn: With postscript of William GIBSON


If you contact the Gloucestershire Records Office, you could obtain a copy of this.


http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives

or to call this information up yourself - google

Gloucestershire Archives Online Catalogue

try also National Archives - google A2A

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If you go onto the Church of Latter Day Saints site -

you will find these children's baptisms

William and Sarah HIBBS

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 20:27 (4723 days ago) @ m p griffiths

By using the search engine on the Church of Latter Day Saints site

Non-conformist baptisms at Frenchay, Gloucestershire - (so far)

HIBBS

Jonathan - 26 July 1657 - parents William & Sarah
Jane - 14 - March 1655 - parents William & Sarah
Hannah - 7 July 1662 - father William
Thomas Couitus HIBBS - 3 March 1665 - father William
Joseph - 10 December 1668 - father William


marriage at the Society of Friends Bristol

Hannah HIBBS - father William HIBBS - married Henry HOBBS - 1692


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The Church of Latter Day Saints has

William HIBBS - christened 23 January 1665 at Aylburton, Glos, (which is in the Forest of Dean) parents William & Joan or Joanne

William and Sarah HIBBS

by unknown, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 21:50 (4723 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Thank you so much for your time and search. I will try and go to the site you mentioned. The only difference I see so far is the birthday for William Hibbs II but it is in the same year. I feel like I am making some progress now. Thank you so much.
Lynn

William and Sarah HIBBS

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 22:19 (4723 days ago) @ unknown

Lynn

Obviously there is some work to be done here - but on Rootsweb connect - there is a tree with a Jonathan HIBBS - father William HIBBS - and a death given of 2 December 1698 in Coolford, (Coleford I assume, England). The tree says, Jonathan married Margaret COX - 8 July 1689, in Frenchay Friends Meeting, Bristol


Quickly looking at the Forest of Dean Records on this site - there is

at Westbury on Severn - burial of a Jonathan HYBBS, residence Flaxley, 'Burial of Jonathan HYBBS - of ye Parish of Flaxley - 16 April 1698.


But on Ancestry, Gloucestershire, England Extracted Parish Records

Text: 27 Jan 1684/5 Jonathan HIBBS, Ailberton, Glos yeoman and Margaret WILLIAMS, Stow, Caerwent (Kirwent) Mon. Bdm Rowland WILLIAMS, Slow, gent : at St Mark alias Le Gaunt

Book: Burialls 1604

Collection: Gloucestershire: Bristol Diocese - Marriage Bonds 1637-1700


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also - same source

Text: 10 Apr 1686 James DICKASON (DICKERSON) Bristol, Tiler, and Jeane HIBBS, Elberton, (Alberton) Glos: Bdm. Edward TURTLE, Bristol, shoemaker at St Michael (37)

Book: Burialls 1604

Collection: Gloucestershire: Bristol Diocese - Marriage Bonds 1637-1700


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back to the birth of William HIBBS - 23 January 1665 - at Aylburton, parents William & Joan or Joanne !!!

William and Sarah HIBBS

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 23:54 (4722 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Hi MPG,
regarding your searching of the Glos Archives site, you don't seem to have mentioned what I'm sure you found, namely they have the Will of William Hibbs from the hamlet of Aylburton, Lydney Parish, dated 1686. Their reference 1686/191.
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx

Which leads me to ask you, as the clear expert on this site judging by your sterling work this week, just HOW do you derive further details of this info ?.
I've been using this site myself for a long time when searching names, but haven't worked out how to delve deeper, please enlighten me ?. In the past I tried using the search engine from their homepage as per your hyperlink, but I thought perhaps mistakenly it was "timing out" without a hit?. Since then it seems the site's been updated but this numbskull still can't drive it !.

Thankyou in hopeful anticipation !

UPDATE !
Just tried using the site from your link again and eventually managed to get some hits when searching for "William Hibbs". Unfortunately those 11 hits were for a C19th WH from Bristol. I tried searching for the above Will using their own reference 1686/191 but no luck at all. I just wish I could interpret the various input fields, at this rate I may have to adopt last resort and read the instructions !! #
Please put me out of my misery and point out what I'm doing wrong ! I knew I should have asked you this question wrt the Larceny thread t'other night.

# I've just noticed they say some features don't work when using Internet Explorer 8. Typically for my renowned bad luck thats what I'm currently using. Which IE are you using, perhaps this is my problem ?. I really don't want to change IE as this upsets other aspects of my pc, so any suggestions gratefully received.

William and Sarah HIBBS

by m p griffiths @, Friday, December 16, 2011, 09:06 (4722 days ago) @ Jefff

Jeff

That's a bit technical for me, but I do find the Gloucestershire Records Office site - genealogical database temperamental and get the message you also receive , then when trying again, get the information requested. When I use the Gloucestershire Database (Wills) - there is no more additional information on William HIBBS 1686. The Will find is down to you. I was brain-dead last night after a day of looking after 4 of my grandchildren, and always find solving requests relaxing.

William and Sarah HIBBS

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, December 18, 2011, 05:03 (4720 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Dont underestimate you're own ability !.
So where did you obtain the extra detail re the Larceny case, I assumed this was from the Glos Archives site? Duh forget it, just re-re-read yr post and you clearly state "Ancestry". Sorry..

William and Sarah HIBBS

by unknown, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 01:38 (4721 days ago) @ Jefff

Hi Jeff,

I haven't found the will yet but I did find a site where I paid 10pounds and was able to get the birth dates of all the children to William Hibbs Sr and Sarah which was written at one of the Friends meetings. I also got a page of death records from the Ross Meeting of Friends which included William Hibbs Sr. I am puzzled where all of the trees from Rootsweb got the idea that William Hibbs Sr.'s wife was named Joanne. I assume you are researching Hibbs for your family tree? I do believe one person can indicate that Joanne is the proper name of his wife then 100 people copy it making it fact without proof.

Lynn

William and Sarah HIBBS

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, December 18, 2011, 05:01 (4720 days ago) @ unknown

Hi Lynn,
no I'm not researching the Hibbs at all except in the above respect attempting to help you, rather as MPG I do it for fun, far more so than suduko etc. SO sorry no I have no further info for you. And yes you're right I think where several people can sometimes make a theory into a fact; I think some consider the tinternet is a bit like the newspapers, if its there it must be true!

William and Sarah HIBBS

by unknown, Sunday, December 18, 2011, 05:22 (4720 days ago) @ Jefff

Thank you for your help too. I was going to share my new pages with you that I paid for if you were researching William Hibbs Sr. I've been a member of ancestry.com for 2 years now but they just take me so far then I need other sources. I was so happy to find all the children listed on the record I bought and the other one had the death date of William Hibbs Sr. I guess I need to go back and see if I can get a copy of the will for him. Anyway I just wanted to thank you for your help as well.

Merry Christmas,
Lynn

Wills

by ChrisW @, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 14:33 (4721 days ago) @ Jefff

Glos Archives only show an INDEX of the Wills they hold. To view a Will you either have to visit the Archives or contact them to send you a copy. There is a charge for this.

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