Barzillai MEEK- Speculative lineage (General)

by unknown, Monday, January 16, 2012, 22:52 (4698 days ago)

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Hello.

I am new to all this. Are Barzillai Meek and Elizabeth Jones parents of the Barzillai Meek who married Marry ann Sterry. I am a descendent of Barzillai and Mary's son Enoch.

Many Thanks
Natalie

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage

by Brian Meek @, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 12:27 (4696 days ago) @ unknown

Not sure if this will help. I have in one of my family trees Cornelius Meek, b 1766 married 19 April 1790, Newlands to Elizabeth Tayler.
Children of this marriage I have as
George b 1787
Susanna 1790-1865
Barzillai 1793-1863
William 1794
John 1801-1851

Susanna Meek married John Oakey born 1791 Aston Ingham. Married 8th June 1813 at St Philips and St James Church, Bristol.
John Oakey was in the North Gloucester Militia, and stationed in Bristol

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage

by jimashton @, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 12:56 (4696 days ago) @ Brian Meek

NOTE (deputy) Admin has created a fresh thread and pointer back to the original thread

Hi Natalie

Repeating your original irritatingly January 2012 locked thread :

Hello.

I am new to all this. Are Barzillai Meek and Elizabeth Jones parents of the Barzillai Meek who married Marry ann Sterry. I am a descendent of Barzillai and Mary's son Enoch.

Many Thanks
Natalie

The short answer is yes. Barzillai Meek 1823 who married Mary Ann Sterry 1827 was the son of Barzillai Meek 1794/1863 & his first wife Elizabeth Jones 1798 married 12 Jun 1819.

As Brian has said Barzillai 1794 was the son of Cornelius Meek 1766/1827 & Elizabeth Tailor 1797.

Having discovered your January 2012 posting was locked and unable to reply, I sent you an email.

Jim Ashton

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage

by unknown, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 21:41 (4696 days ago) @ jimashton

Hi Jim,
Thank you very much. I will post the information about Enoch and his descendents on the weekend. I am still trying to get my head around simple things like storing family tree info. I have double checked my info using the census and registration index.

I cant believe how much info i have got from this forum and cant wait to visit some of the area's. It would appear that so far i have got as far back as Francis Meek born c1655 in Ruardean. He married Charlotte Lamb in 1680.

Enoch married Charlotte Cadle and they moved to Abertillery in south wales which was the beginning of my welsh links.
Thank you for being so helpful.

Natalie

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by jimashton @, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 13:18 (4696 days ago) @ Brian Meek

Brian

Having spent the last week emailing each other trying to establish firmer Meek connections. I find that I didn't previously know that Susannah Meek married John Oakey 1791. Having entered that in my family tree, I noticed an Elizabeth Oakey 1796 who married John Meredith 1796. I then checked the baptism's for both and found parents of both John & Elizabeth Oakey (spelt differently) were William Oakey & Elizabeth.

My connection to Elizabeth Oakey was that John Meredith & Elizabeth Oakey had a son Thomas Meredith 1820 who married Elizabeth Trigg 1819, Elizabeth being the daughter of Benjamin Trigg 1787 & my GGGG Aunt Mary Marfell 1795.

Jim Ashton

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by Brian Meek @, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 16:28 (4695 days ago) @ jimashton

Jim.
On the Oakey side, John Oakey's father was as you say William Oakey, born 1756 in Aston Ingham, he married Elizabeth Sterry 5 December 1785 in Taynton.
His father was also William and he married Anne Stroud 14th October 1753 in St Mary de Lode.

The only siblings of John Oakey b 1791 at Aston Ingham I have found to date are:-

Hannah b 1786
William b 1789
Thomas b 1792

Do you have the date of Elizabeth birth please

Brian

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by jimashton @, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 17:08 (4695 days ago) @ Brian Meek

Hi Brian

I have Elizabeth as born 11 Sep 1796, baptised 2 Oct 1796 Hartbury. Her son with John Meredith - Thomas baptised 23 Jan 1820 Little Dean.

There has been controversy in the past as to the parentage of Thomas Meredith's wife Elizabeth Trigg 1819, there being 2 Benjamin Trigg's to choose from. Both are in my Family Tree as the "other" Benjamin Trigg 1791 married Elizabeth Roberts 1795, my 3rd cousin four times removed, they had a daughter Elizabeth 1822. I have a copy of the will of Elizabeth Trigg 1819's Grandfather John Marfell 1769 which satisfies me.

1851 Census East Dean
TRIGG Benjamin Widow/er 63 Lime Burner Dean Forest
MEREDITH Elizabeth 31 Wife of Coal Miner below Dean Forest
TRIGG Absolom 23 Coal Miner Dean Forest
Thomas 13 Scholar Dean Forest
MEREDITH Thomas Son in Law 30 Coal Miner Married Little Dean
Mary 9 Scholar Little Dean
Martha 6 East Dean
Samuel 4 Little Dean
Lucy 1 East Dean
EDWARDS Timothy Lodger 27 Hallier coal Forest of Dean

1861 Census East Dean
Thomas Meredith 40 CM Little Dean
Elizabeth 41 East Dean
Samuel 13 East Dean

1871 Census Cinderford Image Thomas Meredith
Thomas Meredith 51
Elizth Meredith 51
Lucy Meredith 21
Tom Meredith 10
James Taylor 50
Evan Morgan 28

Jim Ashton

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by unknown, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 21:47 (4696 days ago) @ Brian Meek

Hi Brian.

Yes thats linked to me. Cornelius was father to my Barzillai and he married Elisabeth Taylor. I have Cornelius' father as James Meek christened ? 08/06/1729 and he married Susannah Tollis/Tollisby.

Thank you

Natalie

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by jimashton @, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 14:53 (4695 days ago) @ unknown

Hi Natalie & Brian

I too have Cornelius's father as James Meek 1729 married to Susannah Tolisby 19 Dec 1763. James 1729 son of Basil Meek 1694 & Susannah Watkins 1695 married 22 Jan 1720. Basil was the son of Francis Meek 1655 & Margaret Lamb married 6 Sep 1680.

Natalie note the surname. See below, where you will see that Basil Meek had a brother Francis.

I have Francis Meek 1655 as son of John Meek.

Year: 1691
Month: Mar
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: Francis
Fathers_Forenames: Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Richard GREENWAY
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: 1690/1691 old/new date. Day illegible in PR but clear in BT.
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 175
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Year: 1694
Month: Jun
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: Basil
Fathers_Forenames: Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Richard GREENWAY
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Only wife's name is legible in PR but entry is clear in BT.
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 179
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Year: 1680
Month: Sep
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Forenames: Francis
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: LAMB
Brides_Forenames: Margrett
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence:
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: BT adds additional information: by banns
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 149
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Jim Ashton

Barzillai Meek specultive lineage (continued)

by Brian Meek @, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 16:08 (4695 days ago) @ unknown

Hi Natalie,
I have the same, James Meek married Susannah Follis. James's father was Basil Meek 1694-1747 who married Susannah Watkins 1695-1750. That's as far as I have got.
I think that James had a brother Basil (Bassel) Meek

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