Primitive Methodists (General)

by mrsbruso @, Saturday, January 21, 2012, 14:15 (4686 days ago)

If anyone has non-conformist ancestors, many issues of the primitive methodist magazine have been added to the internet. Two of my ggg grandparents were both primitive methodist ministers (active c. 1830s - 1860s), and lengthly obituaries were included in the magazine for both, so it might be worth an internet search for anyone with primitive methodist roots.

They are included as on line books, and not always the easiest to navigate, but if you get a "hit" it is well worth putting the time in to find the content you are seeking.

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by rookancestrybest @, United Kingdom, Saturday, January 21, 2012, 20:47 (4685 days ago) @ mrsbruso

Do you have the link to the correct web-page for it please? I've not found it when I've looked.

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Saturday, January 21, 2012, 21:58 (4685 days ago) @ rookancestrybest

This may be the site ?.
http://www.archive.org/details/primitivemethod00varigoog

If you click on the B&W page to the left, after it loads you can read, search etc.

Certainly I've found this and other US sites very useful, amongst other things I use it to read the Phillimores Parish Marriage Registers rather than buy the cds.
Searching "Gloucestershire" gives the following;
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=gloucestershire%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts

Or searching "Forest of Dean" gives;
http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924028028920

Hope this helps.

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by rookancestrybest @, United Kingdom, Monday, January 23, 2012, 22:39 (4683 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks I'll try the links.

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by mrsbruso @, Sunday, January 22, 2012, 00:04 (4685 days ago) @ rookancestrybest

the primitive methodist magazine - Google Books Resultbooks.google.com/books?id=jggFAAAAQAAJ...
1864
ELIZABETH BUSH VINING. Mrs. Elizabeth Bush Vining, of Garndiffaith, Pontypool circuit, was born at Batcombe, in Somersetshire, on October 13th, 1803. ...


I haven't used a specific website for this -- I did a google search for the Primitive Methodist Magazine and included the names I was interested in in my search string. It appears that a goodly number of issues of the magazine have been stored as google e-books, and are searchable.

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by peteressex @, Sunday, January 22, 2012, 06:51 (4685 days ago) @ mrsbruso

Growing up as a Methodist in London, and born 11 years after the branches of Methodism were reunited, I didn't realise what splits there had been until I spent school holidays with my grandparents at Lydney in the 1950s. They were stalwarts of the Methodist Church in Springfield Road (once "Ebenezer Chapel" as you can still see in the stonework) which until 1933 had been the "Prim", and they let you know it, comparing it with the other Methodist Church in Hill Street, which they told you was occupied by "them Wesserleyans." As far as I remember, the congregations did not mix.

To be fair to my grandparents, they didn't embark on the subject until I had been marched to a circuit choir rendering of Stainer's "Crucifixion" at Pillowell Methodist Church, which had (and maybe still has) the words "Primitive Methodist" in its stonework, and I had queried the word "Primitive." Apparently all such manifestations of faction were supposed to have been eradicated, but it didn't always happen.

My sister has a bible presented to my grandmother's sister (Miss F M Sterrey) when she moved away from Lydney in 1912. It is inscribed by my grandfather as Sunday School Secretary, and the inscription studiously refers to the church as "Primitive."

The Hill Street church is long closed, but I visited Springfield in September 2011 to see the pulpit King James bible presented in my grandfather's memory in 1962. Numbers there may not be huge, but it is a modernised and well-kept chapel that I wish well.

Given such circumstances and a reasonable fist at archiving, there may well be stored magazines of "Prim" chapels in the Forest which would throw light on the Primitive Methodist emphases and maybe the differences from "them Wesserleyans," as well as the material giving rise to this thread.

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by Richard Hulan @, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 13:43 (4682 days ago) @ peteressex

They have a museum, and it has a website, on which interested persons can find a good capsule history of the church:

http://www.engleseabrook-museum.org.uk/history.asp

The best collection of PM materials is at the Archives of Methodism in the John Rylands Library in Manchester. I have been there to compare different editions of their early hymn book. When it only contained sixty hymns, over a third were from the American camp-meeting movement; sixteen were by one rural preacher from Tennessee. This lapse of poetic taste was corrected fairly soon, mainly by Hugh Bourne; but the original hymn collection (brought over by Lorenzo Dow at the end of 1805) was informally kept in print by Dow's admirers in Ireland -- not necessarily affiliated with the Primitive Methodist Connection -- at least into the late 1820s.

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by unknown, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 13:50 (4681 days ago) @ Richard Hulan

When researching my mother`s side of the family I found her parents belonged to the Primitive Methodists. I had never heard of them and I went on Wikipedia. They have a good general history of this.I got the idea that they were very strict and a "Happy Clappy" religion that would set up a meeting anywhere,anytime they felt. How true this is,I don`t know.When my grandfather died he had moved on to become a very well respected Welsh Baptist!More research I think?! Hope the Wikipedia link may help,
Marj Rees

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by unknown, Sunday, July 22, 2012, 17:16 (4503 days ago) @ unknown

My great grandfather John Wait, who worked at the tinplate works & his colleagues built the chapel themselves according to our family history. it was built with their efforts & commitment & they even hauled some of the stone & brick themselves

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