Looking for Grandfather Edmund Harris

Edmund Harris married Lavinia Knight 29th May 1889
Two sons born William and Frederick. Lavinia died abt. 1896.
My Father, Frederick Harris never knew what became of his Father Edmund. The sons grew up in Clearwell before emigrating to New Zealand in the 1920's

I assume this is him

1911 Buck Cottage Stow ???????
Edwin Harris abt 1856 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Monmouthshire Widowed Farm LAb

1911
John Miles 56
Mary Miles 50
Mabel Miles 24
Frederick Harris 18

1901
Edmund Harris abt 1857 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire Farm Lab.
Walter F Harris abt 1893 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1894
Month: Dec
Day: 23
Surname: HARRIS
Forenames: Lavinia
Residence: Clearwell
Age_at_death: 34
Officiating_Minister: C.E. Bentley Senr Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/7
Page_No: 73
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

Year: 1893
Month: Nov
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Walter Frederick
Fathers_Forenames: Edmund
Mothers_Forenames: Lavinia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H.L. Parry Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

1891
Edmund Harris abt 1859 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Lavinia Harris abt 1861 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
William Chas Harris abt 1879 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

1861
William E Harris abt 1803 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Mary Harris abt 1815 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Emily Harris abt 1854 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Walter Harris abt 1856 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire
Edmund Harris y abt 1859 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire
George Harris abt 1837 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woollaston, Gloucestershire

Name: Edmund Harris
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1858
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 16

Year: 1858
Month: Oct
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Edmund
Fathers_Forenames: William Edmund
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H.W. Thornton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P12 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 6
Parish_Chapel: Alvington

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

This has to be a strong candidate, slight variance of age

Year: 1923
Month: Aug
Day: 10
Surname: HARRIS
Forenames: Edmund
Residence: Still House Monmouth
Age_at_death: 61 years
Officiating_Minister: W.F.Wood Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: The christian name was actually spelt Edwnd
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/8
Page_No: 35
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

Name: Edmund Harris
Birth Date: abt 1862
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 26

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Sorry about the delay in getting back to the Forum.
Thankyou Slowhands for the information about my grandfather Edmund. there is still mystery about why my father Frederick never knew him but he was only a baby when Lavinia( Knight)died and probably grew up with the Miles as his family. I am appreciative of all I have learned of my Jenkins family from Tony and the work done by the researchers. I would love to have come to the FOD. but now at 77years and my sister 80 yrs I think I'll just have to give it a miss. Thanks Evelyn

Sorry about the delay in getting back to the Forum.
Thankyou Slowhands for the information about my grandfather Edmund. there is still mystery about why my father Frederick never knew him but he was only a baby when Lavinia( Knight)died and probably grew up with the Miles as his family. I am appreciative of all I have learned of my Jenkins family from Tony and the work done by the researchers. I would love to have come to the FOD. but now at 77years and my sister 80 yrs I think I'll just have to give it a miss. Thanks Evelyn

It looks like Walter Frederick is living with Edmund in 1901 - perhaps he was just too young to remember

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

I'm wondering where Edmund was in the years up to his death in 1923/4. The census of 1911 shows him to be at Bucks Cottage, Stow. The Marriage to Lavinia was at Travellers Inn, Stow, Newlands in 1889.
Perhaps I might find out something about his life through the Knight Family records.
I have yet to delve into the Miles family my Dad lived with and also look at Edmund's siblings. I don't see any record of a second marriage only that Edmund died at Still House Monmouth. Can anyone tell me what this place was ?
Thankyou, Slowhands for your interest. I've never been to the FOD but I've
always wanted to know where Edmund went and why. Dad always considered himself an Orphan.

I have yet to delve into the Miles family my Dad lived with and also look at Edmund's siblings. I don't see any record of a second marriage only that Edmund died at Still House Monmouth. Can anyone tell me what this place was ?

"Still House" ? I'd like to see the original to confirm the transcription of "Still", its not a name I recognise or a variant.

Instinct tells me it may have been an almshouse / poor house where he was lodging...

its unlikely to be a transcription of Jones' Almshouses Monmouth ( or Newland)
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/wa-2245-jones-almshouses-part-of-monmouth-boys-...

http://www.monmouth-today.co.uk/news.cfm?id=7499&headline=Demolition of almshouses begins

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Good afternoon, Slowhands, 3pm Sunday here in Christchurch New Zealand.
The research you have done is appreciated. The "Still House" reference as Edmund's Place of Death is from an earlier posting in this group. I was thinking of Hospice, Workhouse or the like. We can only wonder what his circumstances were but we can do no more than that. I'll continue to explore via the Family History Group, but I think that I have "found" Edmund, with your help. Anyone who could tell me the whys and wherefores is long gone and we will probably never know why he was so near his sons all those years and was not part of their lives. Thanks, Evelyn.

Thankyou slowhands. I looked at the map reference. It can only be a good thing to replace such institutions with something of a better standard.
i have a contact with the daughter of Edmund's elder son William . She is now 90years old but perhaps she has some memory of her fathers life prior to their emigration in 1924 abt. regards Evelyn

It's lovely to find this information. I'm the grandson of Edmund's son William Charles Harris, who emigrated to New Zealand in around 1920, and farmed in the Waikato district. I'm in Auckland.

Earl B.

Gloucestershirebdm

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Births:

HARRIS: Edmund - (all children) Mother's former name: ELLAWAY - 1858, FOD, Chepstow, Lydney
HARRIS: Emily - 1854 - FOD - Monmouth, Coleford
HARRIS: James - 1863 - FOD - Chepstow, Lydney
HARRIS: Walter - 1856 - FOD - Chepstow, Lydney

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FoD Records

Marriage at Longhope - 14 November 1853

William Edmund HARRIS - age 49, Widower, labourer, residence: Longhope

father: William HARRIS, Sail Maker

married

Mary DAVIS, 38 Widow - residence: Longhope (this is Mary's 2nd marriage)

father: Jonas ELLAWAYS - labourer

by banns:

Witnesses: Samuel & Mary Maria EDWARD

Officiating Minster: Vernon G GUISE, M.A. Vicar

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Marriage at Woolaston - 5 December 1869

Thomas WILLIAMS, full age, Widower, labourer: residence, Woolaston

father: Thomas WILLIAMS, labourer

married Mary HARRIS - full age, Widow : residence, Woolaston (this is Mary's 3rd marriage)

father: Jonas ELLAWAY, labourer, by banns

witnesses: Samuel SMITH, Sarah Jane DAVIS

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1871 Census, Glos. Woolaston

Thomas WILLIAMS - 59 Labourer, born Tidnham
Mary WILLIAMS - 56, born Woolaston
William DAVIES - 22 Lodger, born Woolaston
Edmund DAVIES - 14 - labourer, born Woolaston

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FOD records

Marriage at Woolaston - 5 August 1835

Abraham DAVIS - bachelor, residence: Woolaston

married

Mary ELLAWAY - Spinster, residence : Woolaston (this is Mary's 1st Marriage)

witnesses: George DAVIS and Elizabeth J (?)

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and FOD records baptism : Children of Abraham (labourer) & Mary DAVIS

15 October 1837 - Mary Ann Pearce DAVIS, address: Nether End, Woolaston, at Alvington
18 January 1853 - Elizabeth DAVIS - at Woolaston

+ Gloucestershirebdm ; birth: Abraham DAVIES, 1839 FOD Chepstow, mother's maiden name ELLAWAY

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? not sure about this 1851 Census, Baraks West Dean

Rees? DAVIES - 34, born East Dean
Mary A DAVIES - 34
Elizabeth - 5
John - 2
Phebe ELWAY - Lodger, 25
Sarah ELWAY - 18
George ELWAY - 5
Stephen ELWAY - 3

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FOD records

Baptism at Alvington - 4 February 1816

Mary Anne ELWAY

parents: Jonas (labourer) & Mary

This seems to be the earlier generation of Edmund Charles Harris who was my Grandfather, and G.G to Earl B. Edmund Charles was a widower (died !924) I am most interested to find out about his life in FOD 1911-1924. It is thought he may have been a Pub or hotel owner or worker. Accodat

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Edmund HARRIS 1858 Woolaston -> Clearwell

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