William JOHNS + BUTLER previous thread (General)

by laurajj84 , Blakeney, Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 10:40 (4641 days ago) @ m p griffiths

I can't tell you how grateful I am for your help, Mark and Carnation Johns are my Great-Great Grandparents. I am a Johns and all of my family live in the forest.
Mark and Carnation had at least 10 children including a son called Mark (1893-1960) this Mark is my Grandads father. I am so pleased that with your help the link between William and Mark has been discovered. Thank you!

1891 Dean Common (faint census)

JOHNS

William - 39 - born Dudley
Eliza - 38
William - 10
David - 8
Elizabeth - 13
Comfort - 5
Sarah - 2
Henry 3/12

and with them is William's brother

Mark JOHNS - 29 - born, Brecon, Breconshire (c1862)
Carnation wife - 25
and their two children, Sarah age 5 and Fred age 3, born Bromley, Kent

(according to GloucestershireBDM - Mark JOHNS married Carnation BUTLER at Westbury on Severn Register Office in 1915)

1881 Census, East Dean, WOS

BUTLER

Ambrose - 50 - Pedlar, born Northamptonshire
Isiah - 21 - born Worcestershire
Carnation - 15 - born Worcestershire

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Here is Mark JOHNS - 1911 census

2 vans/tents

Hornill Hill, Bream, Glos

JOHNS

Mark - 54 - married 29 years, 10 children born alive, 7 living - 3 dead, labourer, Travelling Hawker, born Cinderford
Carnation - 48 - all born Glos
Sarah J - 26
Birtha - 20
Mark - 17- labourer above ground collier
Amelia - 16
Earnest - 14
Llewenyn - 11
Stanley - 9

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