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Please does anyone know where Brockway Ditch is or was?Henry Tippins and his wife Jane are listed as living there when Ellen,their daughter was born in 1842.
Also,does anyone have more info on this Tippins family,especially who Ellen married?Grateful for any help

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Hi Jan, Ellen married Edward Worgan b.1835, d.1891. their children were-
Harriet M. Worgan b.1862
Henry Worgan b.1866
Julia Worgan b. 1870
Mary J. Worgan b.1874
Amos Worgan 1879-1939
Grantley Worgan 1880-1967
Lily Worgan b. 1880
Hope this is of some help.

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Hi again Dave,thank you for the info.I wasn't sure if I had the right Ellen Tippins but seems to be the one who married Edward Worgan,my great,great grandfather.
I wonder if you have any more info on Grantley Worgan?My family used to talk of one of the relatives who went to America and I have found a Grantley Worgan on the 1907 New York passenger arrival list,age 26.The age fits and it gives his UK address as Tredegar,which also fits with the family.Do you happen to know if he stayed in the US and what became of him?

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I wonder if you have any more info on Grantley Worgan?My family used to talk of one of the relatives who went to America and I have found a Grantley Worgan on the 1907 New York passenger arrival list,age 26.The age fits and it gives his UK address as Tredegar,which also fits with the family.Do you happen to know if he stayed in the US and what became of him?

Name: Grantley Richard Worgan
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1880
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 20

1881
Edward Morgan abt 1837 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Morgan abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1861 Monmouth, Wales Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Morgan abt 1866 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Julia Morgan abt 1870 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary J. Morgan abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amos Morgan abt 1878 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lilly Morgan abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Grantly Morgan West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
Ellen Worgan abt 1842 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Julia Worgan abt 1872 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Mary J Worgan abt 1874 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Amos Worgan abt 1878 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Lilie Worgan abt 1880 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Grantley R Worgan abt 1881 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Bedwellty, Monmouthshire

1901
Ellen Worgan abt 1842 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Mary E Worgan abt 1876 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Grantly Worgan abt 1882 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Eva M Worgan abt 1898 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Granddaughter Tredegar, Monmouthshire

Suspicion falls on this entry in 1911, given surname of step daughter (?)

Name: Priscilla Boseley
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1903
Registration district: Bedwellty
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 137

1911 Tredegar
Grantley Worgan 29
Harriet Worgan 30 Stockton on Tees
Dorace May Worgan 8/12
Priscillia Boseley 7 Step daughter
Gertie Morgan 6 Step daughter

WWI Army Pension record
Name: Grantley Worgan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 29
Birth County: Monmouthshire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 11400
Regiment Name: Welsh Regiment
Number of images: 5
From Tredegar
Occ Miner

Name: Harriet Worgan
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Bedwellty
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 131

Name: Grantley R Worgan
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1967
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Bedwellty
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 70

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Interesting,thank you

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hi Jan, apparently Grantley returned to the uk, as he is on the 1911 census & living at 12, Queen Square, Tredegar with his wife, Harriet & children Doris May b.1910, Priscilla Boseley (step-daughter)b.1904, Gertie Morgan (step-daughter) b.1905. Grantley died at Bedwelty in 1967.
Good luck, regards Dave !!

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Thanks again Dave!

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Previous connecting threads

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=34667#p35977
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=35661#p35661

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Thank you.Seems Henry and Jane are the parents of Ellen,which I was not too sure about,thanks

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possible Henry

Year: 1814
Month: Mar
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: TIPPINS
Child_Forenames: Henry
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: George Ridout
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: Bream

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1841 Broackwear Ditches
Henry Tippins abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Engineer
Jane Tippins abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jane Tippins abt 1839 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1842
Month: May
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: TIPPINS
Child_Forenames: Ellen
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Brockway Ditch
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 43
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

Year 1844
Month Aug
Day 18
Parents Surname TIPPINS
Child Forenames William Henry
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Jane
Mothers Surname
Residence Brookall Ditches
Occupation Engine Man
Officiating Minister Henry Poole
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P245 IN 1/10
Page Number 57
Parish Chapel Parkend

1851 Parkend
Henry Tippins abt 1821 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Tippins abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Tippins abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1852
Month: Jul
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age: full age
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Parkend
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Tippins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: COMINGS
Brides_Forenames: Sophia
Brides_Age: full age
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: not stated
Brides_Residence: Parkend
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Mills
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Inn Keeper
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of Mary Mortimore
Witness_2: Thomas Baylis
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Surname bride confirmed from Marriage Register volume 11a page 43
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 128
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

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Thank you for all this info Slowhands!It takes me a generation further back and the discussion on Brockwear Ditches is fascinating.I think the local knowledge comes up trumps!

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Help,I'm a little confused(it doesn't take much)!My great,great grandmother,Ellen Tippins was the daughter of Henry(b1814) and Jane Tippins.I have Henry as the son of William and Ann Tippins and then William as the son of Richard Tippins and Hannah York.However,the records only show Richard and Hannah with 3 sons called Shadrack,Abednego and Nathaniel.Have I got my William wrong or his parents wrong?
Would appreciate any help please.

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Help,I'm a little confused(it doesn't take much)!My great,great grandmother,Ellen Tippins was the daughter of Henry(b1814) and Jane Tippins.I have Henry as the son of William and Ann Tippins and then William as the son of Richard Tippins and Hannah York.However,the records only show Richard and Hannah with 3 sons called Shadrack,Abednego and Nathaniel.Have I got my William wrong or his parents wrong?
Would appreciate any help please.

Year: 1808
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YORK
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: John Steel
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tay[lo]r Matt[he]w Procter vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 129
Parish_Chapel: Newland

not sure how you squeeze another generation in before the birth of Henry in 1814 ? --so yes there appears to be an error here.

Willam and Ann probably marry arround 1810 - need to check other offspring etc..

Year 1811
Month Jun
Day 16
Parents Surname TIPPINGS
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Parkend
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda son of
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/1
Page Number 184
Parish Chapel Bream

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I suspect this is Henry's family - paternal line heading to Trevethin Monmouthshire

Year: 1846
Month: Jun
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: full age
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Carpenter
Grooms_Residence: Parkend
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: BANN
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Pillowell
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BANN
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Henry Tippins
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Mortimer
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1851 Parkend
William Tippins abt 1791 Treanling, Monmouthshire, Wales Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Engineer
Ann Tippins abt 1816 [1796 ?] West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Tippins abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 parkend
William Toppings abt 1797 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Engine driver
Ann Toppings abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Toppings abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Toppings abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
William Tippings 78 Carpenter
Ann Tippings 59
Mastha Tippings 16

this might be father William

Year: 1873
Month: Sep
Day: 5
Surname: TIPPINS
Forenames: William
Residence: Parkend
Age_at_death: 80
Officiating_Minister: Jno. (sic) (John) Jos[ep]h Ebsworth (Vicar)
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/30
Page_No: 9
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

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Thank you Slowhands,I was puzzled by the dates!In the right forest but barking up the wrong tree!You always come to the rescue when my brain is addled and I appreciate your help.

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Hi
I don't know if my family is part of this Tippins family tree. However my maiden name is Eileen Elizabeth Tippins born Portsmouth UK 17.11.1953. My Father Alvin David Tippins born Edinburgh UK 19.08.1919. My Brother Lawrence David Tippins born Portsmouth UK 14.12.1946. My Grandfather Henry Tippins not sure of his birth date or place of birth, but I expect I could find out from my brother.

I think it is somewhat ironical that My Christian name is Eileen & my Grandfather's was Henry & I have lived in Wales since 1982! Strange how peoples lives touch others throughout history.

I don't know if the information I have given you is of any help. I hope so, perhaps you would let me know.

Kind Regards

Eileen

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Re: Alvin David TIPPINS, born Edinburgh, married Portsmouth - family centred in Portsmouth

Researching Scotland ancestry

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

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Put in the name TIPPINS - say no-one listed by that name 1911 census - and just one birth, assume Alvin's.

Where did Henry TIPPINS die ??? Portsmouth ??? as this would probably give his dob on Ancestry

???

Death index

Henry G W TIPPINS
birth date about 1890
Date of Reg: March 1951
Age at death: 61
Reg. District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 560

(the above HENRY is on the 1911 census with his family aged 21, born, Orsett, Essex, and a Government Shipwright at Chatham Yard)

Freebdm:

Henry G (George) W TIPPINS - married Winifred E ROWE, O/N/D Qtr 1914, Medway (Kent)

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Hi Eileen,
Thank you for your reply.It seems that our Henrys are 2 different people,taking MP Griffiths reply into account.There does not seem to be a connection between these Tippins trees.
If you are researching your tree further back,perhaps you will find a link to the Forest of Dean Tippins,who knows?
Thanks again,
Janet

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Brockway Ditches - could this be the area known as Brockhall Ditches which is at the top end of Fancy Road going out of Parkend up towards The Barracks? I used to live in this area - 2nd last house on left going up Fancy Road.

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Thanks PEG,I have looked at some maps of the area and think you could well be right.

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