Ancestors of Samuel Bird from Clutton Somerset (General)
Hi,
On the 1840 census my GGGrandfather Samuel Bird with his wife Priscilla(Nee Dagger), is given as living in Clutton in Somerset where Samuel was a Lime Burner. No details of his parents are given.
Does anyone know if his family originated in the Forest of Dean as I have been told that that is where many of those who worked in the mines in Somerset came from originally.
Thanks for your help.
Robin
Samuel BIRD 1801 -1885(?) Paulton Somerset -> Wales
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, March 22, 2012, 16:01 (4624 days ago) @ unknown
Hi,
On the 1840 census my GGGrandfather Samuel Bird with his wife Priscilla(Nee Dagger), is given as living in Clutton in Somerset where Samuel was a Lime Burner. No details of his parents are given.
Does anyone know if his family originated in the Forest of Dean as I have been told that that is where many of those who worked in the mines in Somerset came from originally.
Thanks for your help.
Robin
1841
Samuel Bird abt 1806 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Pricilla Bird abt 1806 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
George Bird abt 1826 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Phebe Bird abt 1827 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Jesse Bird abt 1831 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Mercy Bird abt 1833 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Thomas Bird abt 1835 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Francis Bird abt 1837 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
1851
Saml Bird abt 1801 Paulton, Somerset, England Head Clutton, Somerset
Priscilla Bird abt 1805 Clutton, Somerset, England Wife Clutton, Somerset
Francis Bird abt 1836 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Clutton, Somerset
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Clutton, Somerset
Elizabeth Bird abt 1841 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Clutton, Somerset
Edwin Bird abt 1847 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Clutton, Somerset
1861
Samuel Bird abt 1803 Poulton, Somerset, England Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Pricilla Bird abt 1805 Clutton, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Edwin Bird abt 1846 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Alfred Rogers abt 1859 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Boarder Aberdare, Glamorgan
Name: Samuel Bird
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 402
Name: Priscilla Bird
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 339
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Ancestors of Samuel Bird from Clutton Somerset
I believe I can help.
I have a family tree for the name Bird that dates back to 1530 in the Forest of Dean - principally Clearwell, St Briavels, Newland - with lots of limeburning going on. I think your gggrandfather (if I've got that right) was the son of another Samuel who was the brother of William (my gggggggrandfather)- I might have too many greats in there! Their father was another William and from there it goes back another six generations to Jacob (James) Bird born c.1530.
I'm happy to share more information with you but not sure how the email/telephone contact stuff works
Chris Bird
Ancestors of Samuel Bird from Clutton Somerset
by ChrisW , Monday, March 26, 2012, 21:18 (4620 days ago) @ unknown
Hi Chris
To contact Robin offboard just click on the envelope icon next to his name in his posting.
Ancestors of Samuel Bird from Clutton Somerset
Chris,
Yes please!!
This may well be the break in the 1841 census wall that I have been looking for.
If its of interest to you I was at the National Archives at Kew last Saturday and found details of a James Bird and his family on the 1841 and 1851 census's and wondered if they might be related to Samuel and his family as they seemed to live in the same road.
If this is a secure website person to person then I will let you have an email address on which I can be contacted.
Very many thanks for whatever help and information you can let me have on my ancestors.
Warmest regards.
Robin
Ancestors of Samuel Bird from Clutton Somerset
Dear Robin
Looking again at my family tree I think I misclaculated the number of great-grandfathers (easily done!) in my previous message...I think your Samuel Bird is the son of another Samuel who himself is the son of a William Bird who is my great-great-great grandfather and possibly yours! The next generation back, led by another William and his brother Francis left the Forest of Dean about 1780 to settle at Priston and Newton St Loe. But their cousin, James (bap. at St Briavels in 1770) was also believed to have gone to Clutton c.1795 in search of work in the North Somerset coalfields - it is possible that this James could be your direct line of ancestry in which case we would have to go back to Edward Bird bap.1672 to share a g-g-g-g-g-g grandfather!
All very interesting, even exciting.
I think there is a way of exchanging secure email addresses by clicking on the envelope icon but I'm putting this message 'out there' for somebody else to confirm the mechanics of such contact.
Regards
Chris
Private communication
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 08:19 (4619 days ago) @ unknown
I think there is a way of exchanging secure email addresses by clicking on the envelope icon but I'm putting this message 'out there' for somebody else to confirm the mechanics of such contact.
Yes that is the way of establishing a direct private off message board exchange
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Ancestors of James Bird
Hi Robin
Saw your message about James Bird
My ancestor was. James. Bird. In the. 1841 census. He. Was. Living. In. St Brides. Newent. Llangevenny
Could we have a. Connection. Regards. Sue.
My. Grandfather. Thomas. Bird. James son. Also. Came. To. Aberdare. To. Live
Ancestors of James Bird
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, November 10, 2012, 01:41 (4392 days ago) @ unknown
Hi Susan and welcome to the forum.
Hopefully Robin will see your post, but he's only an occasional user and hasn't visited for six months. I would suggest you send him a direct email which will go straight to his pc email inbox so hopefully seen quickly. Just click the blue envelope next to his username on his post above. This is a secure method if you wish to exchange personal details. I've just sent you one to demonstrate.
Hope this helps, atb Jeff.
James BIRD 1798- 1857 approx Llandevenny MON
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, November 10, 2012, 08:14 (4392 days ago) @ unknown
Hi Robin
Saw your message about James Bird
My ancestor was. James. Bird. In the. 1841 census. He. Was. Living. In. St Brides. Newent. Llangevenny
Could we have a. Connection. Regards. Sue.
My. Grandfather. Thomas. Bird. James son. Also. Came. To. Aberdare. To. Live
Close to the FoD but not in it ....
In 1870-72, John Marius Wilson's Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales described Llandevenny like this:
LLANDEVENNY, a hamlet in Netherwent-St. Bride parish, Monmouth; on the South Wales railway, 6¼ miles E by S of Newport. Acres, 252. Real property, £518. Pop., 42. Houses, 9.
1841 Llandeveney Newport Wales
James Bird abt 1801 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire Farmer
Ellen Bird abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire
Thomas Bird abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire
John Bird abt 1839 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire
1851 Llanddevenny
James Bird 68 Monmouthshire Ag lab
Ellen Bird 58 Llangiven
John Bird 22 Llandevenny
Thomas Liddon 28
Elen Liddon 27
William Liddon 3
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Name: James Bird
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 3
1861
Eleanor Bird abt 1793 Langemin, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
William Bird abt 1821 Landwenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
John Bird abt 1839 Landwenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
Emma Bird abt 1847 Redwick, Monmouthshire, Wales Granddaughter Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
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1871 Mountain Ash
Thomas Bird 45
Sarah Bird 36
David Bird 16
James Bird 11
John Bird 5
Sarah J Bird 6 Months
1881 4 Upper Row
Thomas Bird abt 1826 Llandavenny, Monmouth, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1833 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
James Bird abt 1860 Risca, Monmouth, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
John Bird abt 1866 Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Eliza Ann Bird abt 1877 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
1891
Thomas Bird abt 1825 Parish Llandavery, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1831 Babyton Parish, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
Riza Ann Bird abt 1877 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Catherine Bird abt 1871 Merthyr Parish Troedyalin Daughter-in-law Aberdare, Glamorgan
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