Marion Hale White 1897 - 1911 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, May 08, 2012, 22:04 (4585 days ago) @ karencoupe123

Hi,
at first look I cannot find anything similar at all. Please can you help clarify the basics ?.

Starting from first principals searching the Marriage Register on FreeBMD I think I may have the parents marriage, is this it ?. However Sarah isn't apparently a White as I'd anticipated ?.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Butcher Mary Ann Monmouth 11a 59
HALE Benjamin Monmouth 11a 59
Howells James Monmouth 11a 59
Little Sarah Ann Monmouth 11a 59

I also saw this entry which I thought may be relevant, but I thought (??) the Page Numbers were meant to correlate ?

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
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Marriages Jun 1884
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WHITE Sarah Ann Newport, M. 11a 241 cokesidedoors

Either way as the Marriage is registered at Monmouth I assume the couple were already in the Broadwell "area" (Monmouth being much nearer than say Westbury).

Searching this site's FoD PRs confirms(?) the Brides surname:
Record_ID: 108354
Entry_Number:
Year: 1884
Month: Oct
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: HALE
Grooms_Forenames: Benjamin
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: collier
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: collier
Brides_Surname: LITTLE
Brides_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Little
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John (deceased)
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Thos Jas White
Witness_2: Bessie Little
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth
Soundex_Groom: H400
Soundex_Bride: L340

I see the White surname here...?
This also confirms spelling of Hale, often it's spelt Hail or Haile etc which may have helped the search.

For completeness off FoD site:

Record_ID: 103321
Entry_Number:
Year: 1862
Month: May
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: HALE
Child_Forenames: Benjamin
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 28 Oct 1861
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: D5533 1/1
Page_Number: 80
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Congregational
Soundex: H400

(No father's name to help confirm but this is the best "possible" I can find, correct year and locality).

and:

Record_ID: 45345
Entry_Number: 1827
Year: 1864
Month: Mar
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: LITTLE
Child_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Emily
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Crossways
Occupation: Engine Driver
Officiating_Minister: S.C.Morgan Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 229
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: L340

Also here's Marriage witness Bessie, Sarah's sister:

Record_ID: 45437
Entry_Number: 1919
Year: 1866
Month: Sep
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: LITTLE
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Emily
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Berry Hill
Occupation: Engine Driver
Officiating_Minister: N Cornford Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 240
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: L340

Searching FreeBMD for Marian:
Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcriber
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Births Dec 1896
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Hale Marrian Monmouth 11a 21 NewcastleOZ

Suggesting a Birth during October-December 1896.

(I also see many Mary Ann Hales registered in Monmouthshire around this time, just to add extra room for my error!)

Also:

Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcriber
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Deaths Mar 1912
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Hale Marian 5 Cardiff 11a 556 AnneM

So this Death is registered Quarter ending March 1912 so could have actually died very late 1911 as you posted.

BUT (oddly, unless the above is the wrong child), searching FoD PRs:

Record_ID: 170308
Entry_Number: 2159
Year: 1911
Month: Jun
Day: 20
Surname: HALE
Forenames: Marian
Residence: Daughter of Benjamin Hale and Sarah Ann his wife
Age_at_death: 14
Officiating_Minister: G A M Wynne
Event: Interment
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: (1) Broadwell Lane End (2) South Div[ision] : Adults Gr[ave] (3) L13 (4) Consecrated (5)
Notes:
Register_Reference: DA25 / 204 / 2
Page_No: 7
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Cemetery
Soundex: H400

I realise all this is probably what you already know, but I just wanted to clearup my own slight confusion wrt surnames plus the geographics.

PLEASE SEE MY CONCLUSION & QUESTIONS BELOW...