Phillips of Pentwynmawr, Abercarn, South Wales (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 14:14 (4573 days ago) @ unknown

Hi Andrew,
welcome to this great site from across the water. I see you're in Weston Super Mud as I'm afraid we used to affectionately call it on our regular family day trips. Nowhere else could the phrase "lets go for a quick paddle" instill such leg-fatigue into small kids ! ;-), the tide being invariably out "for lunch" by the time we'd arrived from the Forest.
First may I remind you what I'm sure you know, that Abercarn is someway outside of the Forest of Dean area so is not within this site's remit or PR database.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/?About_the_Forest

Abercarn is within this Parish
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Mynyddyslwyn/#Description

Clearly the Forest does have traditional links with the South Wales valleys and it's iron & coal industries so I have had a quick search for the Marriage via FreeBMD, have you tried this excellent free site, if not I strongly recommend it. I believe it has decent coverage of the South Wales area where I expected to find your Marriage, however that said the nearest I've found thusfar is:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Parnell John Doncaster 9c 726
PHILLIPS Alice Sheffield 9c 726
Spencer Mary Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 726
Taylor Mary Frances Sheffield 9c 726
TURTON Thomas Sheffield 9c 726
WIGLEY Henry Sheffield 9c 726

HOWEVER please search FreeBMD yourself in case this isn't our couple, don't be too over specific wrt first names and do try variations of spelling.

Does the Sheffield area tie in with your family, your query wasn't overly specific so I assumed I was looking for South Wales or Somerset PRs ?. If you can provide more background to the couple then we may be able to help you more too.

Of course the Abercarn area had an ironworks which is a clear link to Sheffield, although I suppose it is more likely to be remembered for it's coal mining history following the terrible disaster of 1878.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1539643

http://industrialgwent.co.uk/newbridge.htm

http://www.newbridge-online.info/collieries.html

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Ebbw_Vale_Steelworks

Regarding the above FreeBMD result, I tried searching for Births for the couple, there a re a LOT of Alice Elizabeth Phillips listed but I only find three Arthurs:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Parnell Arthur James Portsea 2b 326

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Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
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PARNELL Arthur James Thornbury 6a 218

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Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
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PARNELL Arthur James Ringwood 2b 694

On the face of it given your current address I'd perhaps target the Thornbury option, thinking of the Somerset coalfields (not to mention the wellknow Parnell aeroplane manufacturers at Yate, Bristol in the 1920s & 30s), which of couse doesn't match the Marriage. Again I await your further guidance please.

Hope this helps, J