Pls Help Decipher Enumerator's Notes on Census Form (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 15:54 (4573 days ago)

While searching the 1911 England & Wales Census last weekend I was particularly keen to look up an ancestor living in Longhope who's birthplace has long baffled me, as the previous Census's etc have given his Birthplace as "NK...Not Known". I've searched many different avenues for his birth, indeed I've identified a possible family in the Stroud area, but no hard evidence at all.
So imagine my delight when I find he was actually born in Oxfordshire, not unlikely and so a new lead to follow.
HOWEVER when I actually see the Census Form this now appears doubtful, but I'd be interested to know what you wiser people think, please ?.

When completing the form my ancestor has neatly & carefully used a pleasant clear Victorian hand in black ink, he has clearly left the "Place of birth" box empty.
However within this box(albeit it only just, and towards the far right end) someone has written "OX" in red ink. Immediately below this, and right next to the word Gloucester relating to my ancestor's wife, is written "137" or "13r" in the same ink & hand. To me this looks like a completely different hand & scribe altogether.

I presume this is the mark of an enumerator or somesuch official, and probably has NO relevance at all to the birthplace of my ancestor. If it did mean "Oxfordshire" as the website transcriber believes, wouldn't they have writen "Ox" ? Or do these characters perhaps indeed relate to a Birth Record or page of a Register ?

I hope someone with more Census Form experience and wisdom than me can please share their thoughts on this matter, thankyou, Jeff.

Pls Help Decipher Enumerator's Notes on Census Form

by m p griffiths @, Sunday, May 20, 2012, 18:26 (4573 days ago) @ Jefff

Jeff

Give us a clue as to the person you are interested in on the 1911 census, and will have a look.

Pls Help Decipher Enumerator's Notes on Census Form

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, May 24, 2012, 02:31 (4569 days ago) @ m p griffiths

Just for info to others who may be interested, MPG has kindly searched the Longhope 1911 Census on my behalf and it seems that, at least according to the site transcribers, most of the village are originally from Oxfordshire !?!.
This is of course not true, so rather proving the abovementioned "OX" notes on the Census Forms are merely the jottings of officials at some later time and not connected with the resident's birthplaces at all.
Thanks muchly Marilyn for clearing that up.

Meanwhile back to the drawing board for me, spent another unsuccessful two hours at my local Library last night searching Ancestry for clues wrt this elusive gentleman. I guess I'm fast approaching the time to throw myself at the mercy of the wiser hands on this forum. But not quite yet, no offence but not my style !

Pls Help extra Notes on Census Form

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, May 25, 2012, 14:48 (4568 days ago) @ Jefff

The marks were probably made by a statistician - the numbers are perhaps a code for occupations and places of birth.

The O X mark , which has confused the Ancestry transcribers, could be O + in some cases or perhaps O I with a strike mark across the I when a cross check / tally has been performed :-)

The O could be "Omitted" as it seems to be use where a place name or county has been left off the return.

Either way its not OX(FORDSHIRE) in any way shape or form !!!

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Pls Help extra Notes on Census Form

by Roger Griffiths @, Friday, May 25, 2012, 20:17 (4568 days ago) @ slowhands

I have no idea as to the meanings of the annotations. However, I looked up Sites re 1911 Census. I found this. www.1911 census.org.uk. It describes all the relevant information on scope and detail. Towards the end it says that after the enumerators had done their work, the data was processed through a semi automated electronic punch card system. Perhaps therein lies the answer to the annotations described.

Pls Help extra Notes on Census Form

by peteressex @, Monday, May 28, 2012, 07:37 (4565 days ago) @ Roger Griffiths

I've been searching on websites dealing with acronyms and abbrevations without finding what else "OX" might signify for Jefff's purposes. So for sheer speculation I'm wondering if the O might mean "there's nothing there" and the X, as distinct from a tick, mean "so the return is incorrect."

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