Fred MARFELL 1870-1936 (General)

by jimashton , Thursday, June 14, 2012, 14:36 (4548 days ago) @ cjk136

Cjk136

As Dewey has observed, I probably - to be more accurate - have stated that Fred travelled to USA twice.

I believe he was the Fred boarding in the Police Station in 1891.

I have 8 Fred/Frederick Marfell's, but only 2 "other" Fred's are in the same time frame. Starting with the least likely to the other Fred you mention are :

(1) Frederick John Marfell born 9 Sep 1871 Walford, died 29 Mar 1953 New Zealand, he was son of Jonathon Marfell 29 Mar 1843/1922 & Sophia Anne Turner 1840 Peterstowe.
Frederick John 1871 married Sara Marion Seymour (May)Connelly 1871 on 13 Sep 1898 Auckland, New Zealand - 2 children.

1881 Census Image Jonathon 1843
Source: FHL Film 1341624 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2588 Folio 36 Page 5
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Johnathan MARFELL M 38 M Newent, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 202 Acres Employ 5 Labourers
Sophia A. MARFELL M 40 F Peterstow, Hereford, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Farmers Wife
Robert J. MARFELL 11 M Walford, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Farmers Son
Frederick J. MARFELL 9 M Walford, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth H. MARFELL 7 F Weston, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Alice M. MARFELL 5 F Peterstow, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Herbert T. MARFELL 3 M Much Birch, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Lydia L. MARFELL 1 F Much Birch, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Ann WILLIAMS U 20 F Llangattoch, Monmouth, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Governess
Mary ROWLEY U 19 F Canon Pyon, Hereford, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Servant Domestic

(2) Frederick Marfell baptised 23 Mar 1872 Linton son of John Henry Marfell 1836/1924 & Sarah Jane Biggs 1846/1904. This Frederick Marfell died Ludlow 1890.

Census data for father John Marfell :

1851 Census Linton
Thomas Tranter 42 *** Out of business Hereford
Esther wife 50 Dorrington
Anne dtr 11 St Leonards
Sophia Marfell dtr in law 16 Newland
John Marfell son in law 15 Newland

*** Thomas Tranter married Hester Stehens 1801 on 6 Feb 1834. Hester's first spouse was Thomas Marfell 24 April 1792, this being Thomas Marfell's second marriage.

1861 Census Tredegar
Horlick Family outfitters
John Marfell Visitor 25 Grocer & Draper Newland

1881 Census Image John 1836
Dwelling: Post Office
Census Place: Linton In Newent, Hereford, England
Source: FHL Film 1341610 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2527 Folio 30 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John MARFELL M 45 M Newland, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Grocer & Post Master
Sarah J. MARFELL M 35 F Gloucester, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Thomas H. MARFELL 12 M Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William J. MARFELL 11 M Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Frederick MARFELL 9 M Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth MARFELL 9 F Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Sarah J. MARFELL 7 F Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Henrietta MARFELL 4 F Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur
Edith MARFELL 1 F Linton, Hereford, England
Rel: Daur

1891 Census Huddersfield
John Marfell 55 Sewing Machine Salesman Newland
Sarah 45 Mantle Saleswoman Gloucrester
Elizabeth dtr 19 drapers asst. Linton

1901 Census Huddersfield St John
RG13 4107/4 Page 25 Folio 166
11 Honaria Street Huddersfield
Jno 65 Newland Music Agent
Sarah 55 Newland
Thomas 32 Linton Woollen Warehouseman
Elizabeth 29 Linton Drapers Asst.
Sarah 26 Linton Drapers Asst.
Henrietta 24 Linton Milliner Saleswoman
Edith 21 Linton Mantle Saleswoman

Regarding Fred 1870's Mining Experience, the certificate I have is for "Mine Examiner" State of Illinois, dated 14th June 1904, so obviously on arrival in US he gave up any ambitions towards the Police.

His photograph makes him look quite the "Jack the Lad" I will post it - if I haven't already done so. He was "responsible" for hundred's of Marfell's in America.

I also have a newspaper cutting regarding the death of Wallace Marfell, this caused some confusion as the press item from the Forest of Dean Mercury 12th June 1885 describes an Edwin Marfell, but the date of death and the description regarding copious quantities of alcohol, match the death certificate I have for him.

Jim Ashtobn