Florence P. Morgan & Thomas M. Davey Emmigration ? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, September 24, 2012, 02:14 (4447 days ago) @ MJL

We know Florence Priscilla Morgan b1875 is in Penarth in the 1901 Census, working as a "servant". I don't have full Ancestry etc access, it could be useful to know what sort of household it is and whether she may have emmigrated with her employers (search for them in 1911 perhaps) ??.
Penarth is only a few miles from Cardiff and the South Wales coalfields, it expanded hugely following the opening of the massive new docks in 1865 which were built to ship coal & steel across the world.

Having searched very thoroughly thro FreeBMD, AncestrySearch & LDS and seeing a great MANY Florence Morgans, I suspect this is a popular traditional Morgan family name; just as you have said Margaret.
However from what I've seen I think Priscilla is not and is quite rare, in fact it's the ONLY example of this name on the FreeBMD site, as you've posted above:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Morgan Florence Priscilla A Cardiff 11a 480

I therefore suspect this is Florence's daughter...given the name, date and place.
Of course this is pure conjecture, but it seems likely to me. I wonder if her birth caused Florence to lose her servant's job ?. Could the father have been in the same household ?. Is there a Thomas Davey in the household or neighbourhood, for this it may be worth you searching Ancestry etc for him assuming you can do.

Also from FreeBMD is this Marriages, right time, right place:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
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MORGAN Florence P A Thomas Cardiff 11a 727
Thomas John Morgan Cardiff 11a 727

Again nowt certain but compelling methinks...

From the free-to-access 1911 Census on Ancestry, could this be our Florence ?
She's certainly the best "fit" amongst many near-misses.

Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country Address
Edmund Taylor Head abt 1852 59 Male Widowed Boatsman Rochester Kent add 6 Kingsland Crescent Barry Dock Glam
Gertie Morgan Housekeeper abt 1877 34 Female Married 12yrs Housekeeper Bath add add 6 Kingsland Crescent Barry Dock Glam
Florence Morgan Niece abt 1903 8 Female Barry Dock add add 6 Kingsland Crescent Barry Dock Glam
Emma Ellis Servant abt 1892 19 Female Single Servamt add Cardiff Wales 6 Kingsland Crescent Barry Dock Glam
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32190; Schedule Number: 38.

I presume this Florence is with Gertie, here she is in 1901;
name: Gertie M A Morgan
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender:
age: 23
relationship to head of household: Servant
birthplace: Bath, Somersetshire
record type: Household
registration district: Cardiff
sub-district: Central Cardiff
ecclesiastical parish: St John
civil parish: St John
county: Glamorganshire

I noticed several Gertrudes in the Morgan PRs on this site, is this her ?
Record_ID: 116851
Entry_Number: 613
Year: 1877
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Mary Gertrude
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Louise
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: The Lea
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m D Hall
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 523
Page_Number: 77
Parish_Chapel: Lea
Soundex: M625

Which matches this 1881 Census off LDS:
name: Gertrude Morgan
age: 4
gender: Female
birth year: 1877
birthplace: Lea, Herefordshire, Wales
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation:
address: Thomas
census place: Upper Lea, Herefordshire, Wales
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341623
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2586 / 19
page number: 7
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Thomas Morgan M 41
son William Morgan M 7 Lea, Herefordshire, Wales
son Frederick Morgan M 6 Lea, Herefordshire, Wales
daughter Eliza Morgan F 13 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales
daughter Annie Morgan F 10 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, Wales
daughter Gertrude Morgan F 4 Lea, Herefordshire, Wales

Is it coincidence that we are back at the Lea, as with Sophia Ruck, on the Herefordshire/Glos border ?? Is there a firm link between Gertie & our Littledean Morgans ??

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Back to Florence P. Morgan b1875, we know she's married Thos M Davey "born England" by 1920.

Again searching this name on the various aforementioned websites, it seems that in Wales Davey is a very rare name in lieu of Davies. However I find this clear best fir on LDS;

"England and Wales Census, 1901,"
name: Thomas M Davey
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender:
age: 35
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: St Agnes, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Pontypridd
sub-district: Llantrisant
ecclesiastical parish: Dinas & Pen Y Graig
civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
county: Glamorganshire

Ponty is a coalmining town only a few miles from Cardiff up the Taff Valley where it meets the famous Rhondda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontypridd

My childhood neighbours in 1970s Cinderford Bilson were Cornish who's forefathers had moved to the Forest to the coalmines, just as many others went to South Wales; they came from the tin mines for which St Agnes is particularly famous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Agnes,_Cornwall