HELENA BRYANT b1871 FOUND, Previous thread (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Sunday, September 30, 2012, 13:36 (4440 days ago) @ MJL

"I thought you would like this very similar one."

Ummmm ?!... and I thought ladies were the "fair"er sex ?.
;-)

Presume this is the full LDS (Family Search) hit you refer to ?

"British Columbia, Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932,"

name: Unsworth Rothwell
event: Marriage
event date: 14 Dec 1916
event place: Prince Rupert, British Columbia, Canada
age: 57
estimated birth year: 1859
birthplace: Lancaster, England
marital status: Widowed
residence:
father: William Rothwell
mother: Elizabeth Unsworth
spouse: Helene Bryant
spouse's age: 45
spouse's estimated birth year: 1871
spouse's birthplace: , England
spouse's marital status: Spinster
spouse's residence:
spouse's father: Samuel Bryant
spouse's mother: Elizabeth Hale
film number: 1984109
digital folder number: 004401582
image number: 00881
bc archives film number: B11388
reference number: 16 09 179419
banns or license: License

Apologies for not being uptodate wrt the prior thread, its quite possisble this post is full of "old news" to you, sorry if that is the case, please just ignore me as my family do....

I see you mentioned a Derbyshire link. Certainly, as I'm sure you've already done, searching various angles on LDS does show Derbyshire hits, is this relevant ?:

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,"
Mary Ellen Bryan, 1878

name: Mary Ellen Bryan
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Sep 1878
baptism/christening place: Belper, Derbyshire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuel Bryan
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I02367-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2082647
reference number: item 4 p 49

Seems worth further inspection to me, perhaps ?.

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As an aside, I struggled to find one of my ancestors who claimed to be a Helena in her latter years. I eventually found her thro' the Census's, as a West Dean child of Welsh ancestry she had been recorded as Ellen, Helen and even Eleanor; Ellen I think seems a popular (and why not?) "Welsh" name ?. I wondered if she was trying to go "up market" and perhaps more "English" by becoming Helena ?.
Have you tried searching for Eleanors etc ?.

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With a nod towards the Pontypridd link in your Florrie thread I see on FreeBMD there are several Eliza/Elizabeth Bryants in South Wales abt 1860/1870, perhaps suggesting a family connection particularly given the Hale link ???

Could this be relevant ?

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcriber
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Births Dec 1872
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BRYANT Eleanor Pontypridd 11a 337 Harold

(I cannot find an obvious marriage for Eleanor..)

Searching a possibly relevant Bryant/Hale marriage, this is "close";
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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BRYANT Samuel Keynsham 5c 983
HALE Emily Keynsham 5c 983

Shame this is rather early...altho no proof of Bryant/Hales marriage:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1844 (>99%)
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BRYANT Samuel Westbury 11 559
CHARLES Caroline Westbury on Severn 11 559
DOBBS George Westbury on S 11 559
Hale Daniel Westbury S 11 559
Hale Elizth Westbury S 11 559
HEATH George Westbury on S'n 11 559
NICHOLLS Elizabeth Westbury on Severn 11 559
WILLIAMS Elizabeth Westbury on S 11 559

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Some possible food for thought, perhaps ?.
Hope it may help in some way, good luck with your quest Margaret.
(and I thought my family lines were challenging !!)