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Hello there.

I am trying to find any information on my wifes Great grandfather William Naboth Barnard, according to the 1911 and 1901 census he was born in 1871 in Mitcheldean.

We do not know of any brothers or sisters or the names of his parents.

We know his second child Beatrice was born in Herefordshire in 1897 and then he moved to London, from there we have the rest of the story.

During the great war he owned a farm in Suffolk and so we can only assume he came from a farming background.

There a few things we are finding a little confusing, firstly we have a marriage certificate and he is the father and he is called Naboth on it and yet in some census returns he is just William.

Secondly we know he was from Mitcheldean, but are Mitcheldean and East Dean known as the same as there are a few Barnards from East Dean.

Our tree is posted on Ancestry.co.uk if its of interest to anyone.

Looking forward to hearing from anyone who may have anything to add to the puzzle.

Kind regards

Andy

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Hi Andy

I wonder if this is him?

BARNARD Naboth BARNARD BARNARD SMITH 1873 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 36 112

(Mother's Maiden Name SMITH)

There are also these possible siblings?

BARNARD Francis BARNARD BARNARD SMITH 1868 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 28 421

BARNARD Theophilus James BARNARD BARNARD SMITH 1870 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 31 187

From Gloucestershire BMD Indexes.

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Here's the 1881 Census, Westbury on Severn - East Dean, District 27

BARNARD

Emma M - 42, Widow - Shopkeeper : Born Coleford ***
Job - 20 - all born East Dean
Theofolis - 11
Flora E - 9 (working in London Chelsea 1891 Census born Mitcheldean)
Naboth - 7
John - 5 (working in London - 1891 Census, born Mitcheldean)
Arthur - 3

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Checking BARNARD births with mother's maiden name SMITH between 1861 and 1871 seems to tie up with this family at The Plump

BARNARD

James - 37 Iron Miner
Emma Matilda - 32
Beatrice - 11 ***
Job - 10
Geo - 8
Matilda - 6
Mary Ann - 4
Theopila - 1

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Emma M BARNARD age 52 (53 on Ancestry) is living with her daughter, in Chelsea

1891 Census, Chelsea, Christchurch

James T TOWNSEND - 27
Beatrice - 31
James A BARNARD son - 1 - born London, Lambeth
Emma A BARNARD - 52 - born Coleford
Susanna JENKINS - 80 - Parishioner, born South Wales New Church

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Back to the 1861 Census, Plump Hill
Butchers Arms

BARNARD

James - 37 - Innkeeper - born West Dean
Emma A - 22 - born Abinghall
Jabas - 2 months born Plump Hill
Ellen SMITH - 15 - sister-in-law - Little Dean

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The Advance Search is working O.K.

Marriage at Littledean 6 October 1857

James BARNARD - age 24, Bachelor, occupation, Butcher

father: James BARNARD - Innkeeper

married

Emma Matilda SMITH, age 20 - born East Dean

father: William SMITH - Dealer (perhaps Naboth took his Grandad's first name)

by Licence

witnesses: James BALDWIN and Ellen REES

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also by using the Advance Search - baptisms of BARNARD - parents James & Emma

at Mitcheldean Congregational

1869 - Mary Ann - Plump Hill
1869 - Francis - ditto
1871 - Theophilus James - ditto
1873 - Flora Elizabeth - mother's name Emma - (maiden name SMITH) - Overman of Miners
1873 - Naboth - ditto
1876 - John Mathias - ditto

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and again using Advance Search

Burial at Mitcheldean Congregation - 24 Jan 1879

James BARNARD -

Memoranda: Over worker at Edge Hill pit

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Name: Naboth Barnard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1873
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 244

Year 1873
Month Nov
Day 16
Parents Surname BARNARD
Child Forenames Naboth
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Emma
Mothers Surname
Residence The Plump N[ea]r Mitcheldean
Occupation Overman of miners
Officiating Minister Lewis Roberts
Event Baptism
Memoranda Son of: Born Aug 15th 1873 Maiden name Smith
Notes Forename confirmed from the Birth Register Sep 1873 vol 6a page 244
Register Reference D6026 8/1
Page Number 61
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean Congregational

1881 Plump Hill
Emma M. Barnard abt 1839 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire Shop Keeper
Job Barnard abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Theofolis Barnard abt 1870 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Flora E. Barnard abt 1872 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Naboth Barnard abt 1874 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Barnard abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Arthur Barnard abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891 High St Cinderford
Wm Barnard abt 1875 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Servant East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: William Arthur Barnard
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 382

Name: James Edgar Barnard
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1898
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 404

1901
William Barnard abt 1872 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Chelsea, London
Annie Barnard abt 1872 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Chelsea, London
Arthur Barnard abt 1895 Thames Ditton, Surrey, England Son Chelsea, London
Beatrice Barnard abt 1897 Hereford Daughter Chelsea, London
Edgar Barnard abt 1898 Chelsea, London, England Son Chelsea, London

London Electoral Registers
Name: William Nabofch Barnard
Year: 1906
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea
Street Address: 8 Henniker mews

Name: William Naboth Barnard
Year: 1907
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea
Street Address: 52 Limerston street

Name: William Nahotlji Barnard
Year: 1909
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham
Street Address: 9 Kempson road

1911 40 Acfold Road Fulham S W
William Naboth Barnard 40 Mitcheldean
Alice Barnard 40 Ross
William Arthur Barnard 16 Thames Ditton
Beatrice Annie Barnard 14 Hereford
Edgar James Barnard 13 Chelsea
Phyllis Emily Barnard 9 Chelsea
George Edward Barnard 7 Chelsea
John Henry Barnard 5 Chelsea

Name: William N Barnard
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 135

Name: Naboth Barnard
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 135

Name: Naboth Barnard
Probate Date: 30 Apr 1958
Death Date: 3 Feb 1958
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

Naboth BARNARD of 35 Carlisle Avenue Acton MID
died 3 Feb 1958 probate London 30 Apr to
Alice Annie Barnard Effects £2,127 15s 11d

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Name: Alice A Barnard
Birth Date: abt 1872
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Blyth
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 775

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Year 1838
Month Aug
Day 12
Parents Surname SMITH
Child Forenames Emma Matilda
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Harriet
Mothers Surname
Residence Ellwood
Occupation Cattle Dealer
Officiating Minister H. W. Sheppard Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 8811
Page Number 20
Parish Chapel Clearwell

1841
William Smith abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Smith abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Auther Smith abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
William Smith abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Smith abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
William Smith abt 1811 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Smith abt 1813 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Wife Little Dean, Gloucestershire
William Smith abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Smith abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1839 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Smith abt 1841 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Smith abt 1842 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Smith abt 1844 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Smith abt 1848 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Emma Matilda Barnard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 214

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Year 1833
Month Dec
Day 22
Parents Surname BARNARD
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Sarah
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Anth[on]y Ely
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/7
Page Number 32
Parish Chapel Abenhall

1841 Plump Hill
James Barnard abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Barnard abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Barnard abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Esther Barnard abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Barnard abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year 1879
Month Jan
Day 24
Surname BARNARD
Forenames James
Residence Plump
Age at death
Officiating Minister Lewis Roberts
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda over worker at Edge Hill pit
Notes
Register Reference D6026 8/1
Page No 86
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean Congregational

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Many Many thanks for the replies.

The info I had has been backed up with all your findings.

You have done a splendid job for our family.

Thanks again.

Andy

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Hello Andy,

Just by some chance I just happened to see your posting on Google that you were looking for some information. Naboth Barnard was my grandfather but I never remember him as I believe he died in 58. ( I was 2 at the time).
He was a pit boy at age 10 but moved to London to start a horse drawn taxi service to which King Edward awarded him a prize for a fabulous horse he had around 1903.

One of his sons was George Edward Barnard who was my Dad , to which I was born and raised in London, but emigrated to the US many years ago.

Naboth's Dad was named James and apparently I heard there is a portrait of him in the speech house in the middle of the forest of Dean somewhere . He had a long bushy red beard and was married to either Emma or Matilda.

I'm curious to know if this information might be helpful to you.

Let me know when time,

Best regards,

John.

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Looking at Public Members Trees on Ancestry there doesn't appear to be a marriage found of William Naboth to Alice Annie (nee??)

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British Newspapers on line (just a brief outline - without registering)

Littledean Petty Sessions

,and Naboth Barnard also of Cinderford, were summoned for Tiding horses furiously High Oindcrford the 18th instant fined 2s 6d. - Saturday 26 April 1890, Gloucester Journal.

1891 Census, Cinderford

Wm BARNARD - 19 - Servant (boots) for Diane SMITH - Widow 68 - Hotel Keeper

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just to re-cap

England & Wales, National Probate

1958

BARNARD Naboth of 35 Carlisle Avenue, Acton, Middlesex, died 3 February 1958.
Probate London 30 April to Alice Annie BARNARD. Effects £2,127 15s 11d

1911 Census, Fulham, London, England

40 Acfold Road SW

Living in 9 rooms

married 17 years, 6 children born alive, 6 living

BARNARD

William - 40 - Motor Car Driver, Driving own Car - born Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Alice - 40 - born Ross, Herefordshire
William Arthur - 16 - Motor Works - born Thames Ditton
Beatrice Annie - 14 - Singer's Sewing Machinest, born Hereford
Edgar James - 13 - School - born Chelsea
Phyllis Emily - 9 - born Chelsea
George Edward - 7 - born Chelsea
John Henry - 5 - born Chelsea

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Hello John

Hope your well.

I am just going back over all my research as I am struggling to find anything with the wedding of Naboth and Alice Annie on it.

Do you have an email address I can contact you as I would like to ask you some questions

Look forward to hearing from you soon

All the best

Andy

Feb 4 2014

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Hello John

Hope your well.

I am just going back over all my research as I am struggling to find anything with the wedding of Naboth and Alice Annie on it.

Do you have an email address I can contact you as I would like to ask you some questions

My email address is 4ndy AT hotmail.co.uk

Look forward to hearing from you soon

All the best

Andy

Feb 4 2014

Does the birth Cert for any of his children give a clue / confirm JENKINS ?

Did he continue with his non-conformist roots ?

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Name: Alice A Barnard
Birth Date: abt 1872
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Blyth
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 775

Name: Alice Annie Barnard
Probate Date: 20 Feb 1962
Death Date: 10 Nov 1961
Death Place: Suffolk, England
Registry: Ipswich

otherwise Annie Alice of Mill Farm Middleton widow
probate to Annie Bryant and Phyllis Emily Searle
effecte £1244 7s

daughter Beatrice
Name: Beatrice A Barnard & Herbert J Bryant
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 691

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Name: Alice Annie Jenkins
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1872
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 482

1881
Henry J. Jenkins abt 1844 Gloucestershire, England Head Monmouth, Monmouthshire Post Boy
Jane Jenkins abt 1846 Durley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Alice A. Jenkins abt 1873 Ross, Hereford, England Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
William H. (Twin) Jenkins abt 1874 Monmouth, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Francis R. (Twin) Jenkins abt 1874 Monmouth, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Henry J. Jenkins abt 1876 Hereford, Hereford, England Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Emily J. Jenkins abt 1878 Hereford, England Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Rosea E. Jenkins Monmouth, Wales Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire

1891 Dock St
Henry J Jenkins abt 1844 Apperley, Gloucestershire, England Head Ross, Herefordshire Horse Keeper
Jane Jenkins abt 1846 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ross, Herefordshire
Alice A Jenkins abt 1873 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
William H Jenkins abt 1874 Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ross, Herefordshire
Francis R Jenkins abt 1874 Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ross, Herefordshire
Henry J Jenkins abt 1876 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire
Rosa H Jenkins abt 1881 Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Ernest G Jenkins abt 1883 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire
Florence E Jenkins abt 1886 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Herbert E Jenkins abt 1888 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire

Alice Annie marries circa 1893/4, perhaps she marries before and remarries William BARNARD under a different surname

1901 33 Edde X St,
Henry Jenkins abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Head Ross, Herefordshire
Rose Jenkins abt 1882 Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Ernest Jenkins abt 1884 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire
Emily Jenkins abt 1886 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Berty Jenkins abt 1888 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire

1911 33 Edde Cross St, Ross On Wye, Herefordshire
Henry James Jenkins 68
Ernest George Jenkins 28
Florance Emily Jenkins 25
Herbert Edward Jenkins 23

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A minor detail -
Naboth BARNARD attended Plump Hill school in 1882
Souce - Log Book 1878 - 1901 at Gloucester Record Office

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Many thanks for that info.

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Hello again

I have done a lot of work on the family since I last contacted you all but, there is one thing I can not find anything about and that is the marriage of Naboth William Barnard and Alice Annie Jenkins.

On my family tree on Ancestry on the 1911 census it states they have been married for 17 years so that takes back to around 1894.

Here is a link to the site http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/48481134/family?cfpid=12897550604

I really would appreciate any leads on this because Ive spent hours looking, I am guessing it is either un-traceable or it is blindingly obvious.

Look forward once again for any help.

Many thanks

ANDY

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