The BISHOP Family suffered several tragically early deaths (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, February 11, 2013, 23:57 (4308 days ago) @ slowhands

According to 1881 Census Margaret was aged 28 and with James, she has children until 1888 (baptised at Cinderford St Stephen), but is not on 1891 Census with James and rest of family.

?

From this site's PRs

Record_ID: 56145
Entry_Number: 1507
Year: 1890
Month: Feb
Day: 25
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Margaret
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 37 y[ea]rs
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 189
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

NB: I think there maybe a couple of old gravestones just in front of St Stephens, but only a very few, hence ? she's buried at St Johns which has a burial ground.

From this site's Old Photo section see:
St Johns
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/churches/pages/page_12.html
St Stephens
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/churches/pages/page_14.html
(Note the area next to the Church is the Vicarage Lawn, not a burial ground).
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/cinderford/pages/page_26.html

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Ref earlier GlosBMD Birth registration for Emma Jane Bishop b1883, sadly

Record_ID: 55803
Entry_Number: 1167
Year: 1885
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Emma Jane
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 1 y[ea]r & 9m[o
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/13
Page_No: 146
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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Altho not! proven without further research, browsing this site's Cinderford PRs for Bishops gives the following possible family members:

James & Margaret had a son John born Lydney abt 1881 according to the Census.
From this site:

Record_ID: 41339
Entry_Number: 171
Year: 1882
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: BISHOP
Child_Forenames: John William
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Primrose Hill
Occupation: Puddler
Officiating_Minister: R. Stevens Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: B210

He is with the household in 1891 but not in 1901 Census. He's old enough to have moved out, but could this be him ?:

Record_ID: 6105
Entry_Number: 693
Year: 1900
Month: Apr
Day: 5
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: John William
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 18 years
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 88
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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Their elder son George Henry born abt 1878 married Kate Rosalind Murrell born abt 1885 in 1907, (see earlier).

These premature deaths match ?

Casualty of War, or ?

Record_ID: 7317
Entry_Number: 285
Year: 1917
Month: Dec
Day: 14
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: George Henry
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 39
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 36
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

Record_ID: 8333
Entry_Number: 1301
Year: 1932
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Surname: BISHOP
Forenames: Kate
Residence: Victoria St[reet] E[ast] D[ean]
Age_at_death: 47
Officiating_Minister: J W Yeandle Hignell
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 163
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B210

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On a happier note, I think this may be their children, born just after the 1907 Marriage:

Record_ID: 1014563
Entry_Number:
Year: 1934
Month: Oct
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Forenames: Henry George
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: pumpsman
Grooms_Residence: Victoria St
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: BISHOP
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [decd]
Brides_Surname: BEDDIS
Brides_Forenames: Hilda Mary
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation: domestic
Brides_Residence: Victoria St.
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BEDDIS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph Edward
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [decd]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Helen Capener
Witness_2: John Bishop
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Glidden
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: B210
Soundex_Bride: B320

Record_ID: 1014624
Entry_Number:
Year: 1938
Month: Apr
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: WALL
Grooms_Forenames: Ernest Edward
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: fitter
Grooms_Residence: Gloucester
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: WALL
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: labourer
Brides_Surname: BISHOP
Brides_Forenames: Florence May
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Victoria St.
Brides_Fathers_Surname: BISHOP
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: H G Bishop
Witness_2: G Stamps
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tom T Haines vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 95
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: W400
Soundex_Bride: B210

Note the witnesses are brothers.