Rhoda COLLIER and John SYMS => Yorkshire (General)
by Digihound 
, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 01:50 (4258 days ago)
Rhoda COLLIER b Cinderford/Forest Glos 1853, married John SYMS b 1852 in Glos. at Stroud in 1869. They later moved to Yorkshire.
Can anyone please help with information about this couple.
Thanks.
Rhoda COLLIER
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 07:44 (4258 days ago) @ Digihound
Rhoda COLLIER b Cinderford/Forest Glos 1853, married John SYMS b 1852 in Glos. at Stroud in 1869. They later moved to Yorkshire.
Can anyone please help with information about this couple.
Thanks.
The records suggest this marriage
WILLIAMS William
COLLIER Rhoda
Stroud Cainscross St Matthew 1869 C9/1 235
and this one
SIMS John
POULSTON Lydia
Stroud Cainscross St Matthew 1869 C9/1 234
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Rhoda COLLIER
by Digihound , Saturday, March 30, 2013, 12:39 (4258 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks for your help.
On checking you have the right page but not the right husband for the 1869 marriage. John Sims appears on the same page and the reference is 6A/508.
I've ordered the certificate to see if that gives any more detail.
Thanks again for the pointer.
Rhoda COLLIER
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 14:34 (4257 days ago) @ Digihound
Thanks for your help.
On checking you have the right page but not the right husband for the 1869 marriage. John Sims appears on the same page and the reference is 6A/508.
I've ordered the certificate to see if that gives any more detail.
Thanks again for the pointer.
I think you need to re-check your assumption.
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Rhoda COLLIER
by Digihound , Sunday, March 31, 2013, 15:08 (4257 days ago) @ slowhands
Yes, you are correct - I do!
But you didn't explain why you'd chosen the Thomas family, so at the time I wrote the above I couldn't see a reason to change my stance.
Since the Griffiths response below, however, I'm now back on track.
Thanks for challenging my assumption!
Rhoda COLLIER
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, April 01, 2013, 11:15 (4256 days ago) @ Digihound
Yes, you are correct - I do!
But you didn't explain why you'd chosen the Thomas family, so at the time I wrote the above I couldn't see a reason to change my stance.
Since the Griffiths response below, however, I'm now back on track.
Thanks for challenging my assumption!
Doh
The answer was in my next reply
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Rhoda THOMAS and John SYMS => Yorkshire
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 08:05 (4258 days ago) @ Digihound
Rhoda COLLIER b Cinderford/Forest Glos 1853, married John SYMS b 1852 in Glos. at Stroud in 1869. They later moved to Yorkshire.
Can anyone please help with information about this couple.
Thanks.
I think this is the couple you are interested in
1871
Rhoda Thomas abt 1853 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Servant East Dean, Gloucestershire
Marriage
SYMS John
THOMAS Rhoda
Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office
1873 5 7
1881
John Sims abt 1852 Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head Great Houghton, Yorkshire
Rhoda Sims abt 1853 Forest, Gloucestershire, England Wife Great Houghton, Yorkshire
Albert Seth Sims abt 1875 Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Great Houghton, Yorkshire
Frederick Sims abt 1877 Tankersley, Yorkshire, England Son Great Houghton, Yorkshire
William Sims abt 1878 Tankersley, Yorkshire, England Son Great Houghton, Yorkshire
Agnes E. Sims abt 1880 Tankersley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Great Houghton, Yorkshire
1891
John Sims abt 1852 Steam Mills, Gloucestershire, England Head Featherstone, Yorkshire
Rhoda Sims abt 1853 Binderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Featherstone, Yorkshire
Albert S Sims abt 1875 Binderford, Gloucestershire, England Son Featherstone, Yorkshire
Frederick Sims abt 1877 Rockingham, Yorkshire, England Son Featherstone, Yorkshire
William Sims abt 1878 Rockingham, Yorkshire, England Son Featherstone, Yorkshire
Agnes E Sims abt 1880 Rockingham, Yorkshire, England Daughter Featherstone, Yorkshire
Walter Sims abt 1882 Great Houghton, Yorkshire, England Son Featherstone, Yorkshire
Eunice Sims abt 1886 Great Houghton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Featherstone, Yorkshire
1901
John Simms abt 1852 Forest Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Rhoda Simms abt 1853 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Fredrick Simms J abt 1877 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Son South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Frank Simms abt 1882 Great Houghton, Yorkshire, England Son South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Walter Simms abt 1882 Great Houghton, Yorkshire, England Son South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Eunice Simms abt 1886 Great Houghton, Yorkshire, England Daughter South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Name: Rhoda Sims
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1905
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 316
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Rhoda THOMAS and John SYMS => Yorkshire
by Digihound , Saturday, March 30, 2013, 12:48 (4258 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks again,
But could you please clarify how you came onto the Thomas surname? There's definitely a family connection with the Thomases, but is there a Rhoda Collier with them in a census? I can't seem to find an 1871?
SYMS/THOMAS - Gloucestershirebdm
by m p griffiths , Saturday, March 30, 2013, 13:24 (4258 days ago) @ Digihound
If you look at Gloucestershirebdm
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
Marriage:
Groom Surname: SYMS
Groom Forename: John
Bride Surname: THOMAS
Bride Forename: Rhoda
District: Forest of Dean
Parish: Westbury on Severn FoD
Building: Register Office
Year : 1873
Register: 5
Entry: 7
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Births:
Child Surname: SIMS
Child Forename: Albert Seth
Father's Surname: SIMS
Mother's Surname: SIMS
Mother's Former Name: THOMAS
Year: 1875
District: Forest of Dean
Office: Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Register: 38
Entry: 300
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Gloucestershirebdm - do have
a Flora SIMS 1874, Frampton, mother's maiden name COLLIER. Flora is the daughter of George & Ann SIMS, 1881, Glos. Fretherne
SYMS/THOMAS - Gloucestershirebdm
by Digihound , Saturday, March 30, 2013, 16:39 (4258 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Thanks for that clarification. I couldn't find Albert Seth on ancestry, guess they don't have access to the records. Not used Gloucestershire BMD previously so that's another site to add to my bookmarks - very useful.
So now I've ordered another marriage cert!
Thanks again
Gloucestershire Archives BMD site
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 21:32 (4256 days ago) @ Digihound
Hi DH and welcome to the forum,
yes the GlosBMD site is always worth a quick crossreferral, it's a very userfriendly yet usefull site on top of the others. This prior thread may be worth your reading, amongst other things it also mentions another excellent Glos Archives website.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=35296
Hope this helps you enjoy a Happy Easter.
COLLIER /SYMS/JORDAN/BARNARD ?
by m p griffiths , Saturday, March 30, 2013, 09:53 (4258 days ago) @ Digihound
Looking at Public Members Tree on Ancestry
this couple is given as
John SIMS (SYMS) - 1852
Rhoda THOMAS - 1853 - 1905
Albert Seth - 1875
Fredrick/Frederick 1877 - Pocklington, Yorkshire
William - 1878
Agnes - 1880
Frank - 1882
Walter = 1882
Eunice Rose Lavina SIMS - 1886 - 1961
and from this tree
William SIMS(SIMMS) married Elizabeth JORDAN
1871 Census, East Dean
Broad Moor
William SIMS, 57 - Haulier, born Flaxley (just dittoed from above)
Elizabeth - 52 - born East Dean
John - 19 - Coal Miner
Alfred - 16/18? - Boilermaker
Martha J - 14
Julie - 12
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1881 Census,
Boilershop Row
William SIMS - 67 - Genl. Labourer - born Longhope
Elizh - 65 - born Drybrook
John SMITH - son-in-law - 17 - Collier - born East Dean
Julia SMITH - daughter - 23
Martha SMITH - 4
John W SMITH - 1 month
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as Rhoda says she was born in Cinderford
???
1861 Census, East Dean - District 17 .... part of the description of this district says... from Cinderford Ironworks etc....
L D Hill
THOMAS
Samuel - 38 - Coal Miner, all born Gloucester
Eunice - 38
Peter - 11
John - 6
James - 9
Rodah - 8
Joseph - 4
Mary - 1
Gloucestershirebdm
Samuel THOMAS married Eunice BARNARD - Westbury on Severn Register Office 1847
THOMAS births - mother's maiden name BARNARD
Aaaron - 1865, Forest of Dean - Westbury on Severn, Newnham
James - 1851 - ditto
John - 1855 - ditto
Joseph - 1857 - ditto
Mary - 1860 - ditto
Miriam - 1870 ditto
Moses - 1863 - ditto
Peter - 1849 - ditto
Rhoda - 1853 Forest of Dean, Chepstow, Lydney
Samuel - 1867 Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
...
can't seem to find any baptisms for these children on FoD records