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James Whitson born 1845 married Tabitha Herbert (born 1848) in 1868. She died in 1883.
Did James remarry and/or went on to have any more children?
Two of their children were in the workhouse at Westbury in 1881. Barbara and Rosanna. I believe Rosanna died there.

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Hi Janet,

As you know:

Record ID 4482
Entry Number 447
Year 1868
Month Jan
Day 8
Grooms Surname WHITSON
Grooms Forenames James
Grooms Age 22b
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Collier
Grooms Residence Littledean Hill
Grooms Fathers Surname Witson
Grooms Fathers Forenames George
Grooms Fathers Occupation Engine Tender
Brides Surname HERBERT
Brides Forenames Tabitha
Brides Age 19
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Brierly
Brides Fathers Surname Herbert
Brides Fathers Forenames George
Brides Fathers Occupation Collier
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both Mark
Witness 1 Charles Grindell
Witness 2 Susan Herbert
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister William Barker
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6
Page Number 224
Parish Chapel Drybrook

using this site's advanced search give the following possible Baptisms;

Record ID 14700
Entry Number 554
Year 1869
Month Apr
Day 25
Parents Surname WHITSON
Child Forenames George
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Tabitha
Mothers Surname
Residence Brierley
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/3
Page Number 70
Parish Chapel Drybrook

Record ID 14701
Entry Number 555
Year 1869
Month Apr
Day 25
Parents Surname WHITSON
Child Forenames Florence Matilda
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Tabitha
Mothers Surname
Residence Brierley
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/3
Page Number 70
Parish Chapel Drybrook

Record ID 15117
Entry Number 171
Year 1873
Month Jun
Day 1
Parents Surname WHITESTONE
Child Forenames Rosanna
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Tabitha
Mothers Surname
Residence Little Dean Hill
Occupation Coal Miner
Officiating Minister Wm Barker Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference PFC109 IN 1/4
Page Number 22
Parish Chapel Drybrook

Record ID 15286
Entry Number 340
Year 1875
Month Jan
Day 17
Parents Surname WHITESTONE
Child Forenames Barbara
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Tabitha
Mothers Surname
Residence Brierley
Occupation Engine-Man
Officiating Minister Wm Barker Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference PFC109 IN 1/4
Page Number 43
Parish Chapel Drybrook

From GlosBMD site (includes Register Office Marriages unlike this FoD site), I wonder if this is your James too ?:

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
WHITSON James EVANS Mary Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1890 9 64
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

???

NB: I have been searching other spelling variations including Jas but with only this additional hit so far from GlosBMD:

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
WITSON James HERBERT Tabitha Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1868 1 447

Sorry I cannot search 1891 Census etc.

Hope this helps & rewards your further searching.

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Thanks Jeff, Did not realise they had a son George, but thought they had just four daughters. As Tabitha died quite young, I did wonder if James re-married. As James is quite a common name it is hard to link him later in his life.

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You're very welcome. Yes a few spelling possibles there to make April Fools of us.
The beauty of the Advanced Search feature is I could search and quickly view all the Baptisms for surnames starting "Whi" and then "Wit", tried both with father's forenames "Jam" then "Jas"; ditto the GlosBMD site.

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You're very welcome. Yes a few spelling possibles there to make April Fools of us.
The beauty of the Advanced Search feature is I could search and quickly view all the Baptisms for surnames starting "Whi" and then "Wit", tried both with father's forenames "Jam" then "Jas"; ditto the GlosBMD site.

or father name starting "Ja" and mother name starting "Tab" ........

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Yes I could have done that, my minds not working well due to tiredness thro illness... I just wanted to help out. However your approach wouldn't have been successful as per the original query it was believed that James fathered more children after Tab had passed away...

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Gloucestershire BMD Index give the following births:
WHITSON Florence Matilda WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1869 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 30 103
WHITSON Sophia WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1871 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 32 319
WHITSON Rosanna WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1872 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 33 465
WHITSON Barbara WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1874 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 38 55
WHITSON Alice WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1877 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 42 500

There does not appear to be a birth registration for a George Whitson c1869 however there is a birth registration for a George Herbert to a single mother in 1866

HERBERT George HERBERT 1866 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 26 485

There is a George Herbert aged 3 living with Tabitha's parents in 1871 and they are next door to James and Tabitha WITSON (transcribed as Wilson) and daughter Florence M.

1881 Census:
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Sophia Herbert abt 1823 East Dean ((Coleford)), Gloucestershire, England Wife
John Herbert abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son
George Herbert abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson
Tabithea Whitson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Florance M. Whitson abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter
Allace Whitson abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter

James is not at home. There is a James Whitson, unmarried, aged 39 from Forest of Dean lodging at Llanelly

George is married at the time of the 1891 Census:
George Herbert abt 1868 Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Catherine Herbert abt 1868 Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rosann Herbert abt 1890 DaughterEast Dean, Gloucestershire
John Herbert abt 1890 Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Herbert abt 1878 Sister East Dean, Gloucestershire

Alice should be listed as Whitson.

LEYSHON Rosanna LEYSHON 1889 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 59 94

HERBERT John Charles HERBERT HERBERT LEYSHON 1890 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 60 412

This would appear to the marriage.
Marriages Dec 1889
Herbert Arthur George Westbury S. 6a 470
LYSHON Catherine Westbury S. 6a 470

1901 Census:
George Herbert Jun. abt 1868 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Head
Catherine Herbert abt 1868 Staffordshire, England Wife
George Herbert abt 1821 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Grandfather
Alfred Lyshon abt 1887 Hawkwell Row, Staffordshire, England Son
Rose Herbert abt 1890 Hawkwell; Row, Staffordshire, England Daughter
John Herbert abt 1891 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Son
George Herbert abt 1892 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Son
Lily Herbert abt 1894 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Daughter
Florrie Herbert abt 1898 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Daughter

The Census gives place of birth as Brierley, Staffordshire. It should read Brierley, Gloucestershire.

Possible birth registration for Alfred:
LICHEN Alfred John LICHEN 1886 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 55 28

1911 Census:
Brierley,Glos
George Herbert 43 Head
Caroline Herbert 43 Wife
John Herbert 20 Son
George Herbert 19 Son
Florence Herbert 13 Daughter
Emily Herbert 8 Daughter
Gladys Herbert 3 Daughter
Benjamin Leyshon 25 Boarder

Year: 1920
Month: Jun
Day: 15
Surname: HERBERT
Forenames: Arthur George
Residence: Brierly
Age_at_death: 53 years
Officiating_Minister: Edward Parnell Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/14
Page_No: 65
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Year: 1953
Month: May
Day: 26
Surname: HERBERT
Forenames: Caroline
Residence: Brierley
Age_at_death: 83 yrs
Officiating_Minister: R C Stebbing Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/33
Page_No: 53
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

More to follow
Mike

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Florence Matilda Whitson:
Births Mar 1869
WHITSON Florence Matilda Westbury S. 6a 241

Marriages Sep 1892
Mills Joseph Westbury S. 6a 445
WHITSON Florence Matilda Westbury S. 6a 445

Burial:
Year: 1937
Month: Dec
Day: 11
Surname: MILLS
Forenames: Florence Matilda
Residence: Brierley
Age_at_death: 68
Officiating_Minister: S E Easter Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38
Page_No: 33
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Alice Whitson:
Births Dec 1877
Whitson Alice Westbury S 6a 259

Deaths Sep 1902
Whitson Alice 24 Westbury S. 6a 193

Census returns tell us that both Alice and her mother Tabitha were subject to fits and this may be the reason for early death.

Barbara Whitson:
Births Dec 1874
Whitson Barbara Westbury S. 6a 254

Marriages
Bennett George John Westbury S. 6a 515
Whitson Barbara Westbury S. 6a 515

Burial:
Year: 1944
Month: May
Day: 8
Surname: BENNETT
Forenames: Barbara
Residence: High Beech
Age_at_death: 70 yrs
Officiating_Minister: R C Stebbing Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/33
Page_No: 30
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Rosanna Whitson:
Births Mar 1872
Whitson Rosanna Westbury S. 6a 251

Deaths Sep 1881
Whitson Rosanna 9 Westbury S. 6a 130

Year: 1881
Month: Jul
Day: 20
Surname: WHITSON
Forenames: Rosanna
Residence: Bilson
Age_at_death: 9
Officiating_Minister: J J Lewin Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda: Name is annotated NY
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/12
Page_No: 150
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Sophia Whitson:
Births Mar 1871
Whitson Sophia Westbury S. 6a 245

Deaths Mar 1871
Whitson Sophia 0 Westbury S. 6a 160

Mike

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Hi Mike, Thanks for all the information, will have to digest it all. I do have some of the information you have given me but once again thanks.

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Did James Whitson remarry you ask.

There is a marriage as follows:
Marriages Jun 1890
Evans Mary Westbury S. 6a 502a
Whitson James Westbury S. 6a 502a

And we find them in the 1891 Census:
James Whitson abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Whitson abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife
Thomas Evans abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Maud Evans abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Rose Whitson abt 1891 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Sarah Evans abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Mother-in-law

There is a suggestion that Mary had married before. This is the birth registrations for Maud (do not be confused by the surname Abbott as this will become clearer later):

ABBOTT Maud ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1889 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 56 8

But no evidence of a marriage can be found. This is Mary Ann with her family in 1881:

John Evans abt 1838 Llangaron, Monmouth, Wales Head
Sarah Evans abt 1832 Longnewton, Wiltshire, England Wife
Mary A. Evans abt 1861 Cricklade, Wiltshire, England Daughter
James Evans abt 1864 Sison, Somerset, England Son
Thomas Evans abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Sarah Evans abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Millicent Abbott abt 1873 N K, Gloucestershire, England Visitor

Birth registrations for children:

WHITSON Rosa WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1891 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 61 235
WHITSON James Matthew WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1892 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 63 183
WHITSON Nora WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1894 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 1 385
WHITSON Alexander WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1895 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 2 463
WHITSON John WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1897 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 5 135

Next we have the 1901 Census in which there are stepchildren listed:
James Whitson abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Mary A Whitson abt 1861 Cricklade, Wiltshire, England Wife
Frederick Abbott abt 1882 Gloucestershire, England Stepson
Tom Abbott abt 1884 Gloucestershire, England Stepson
Maud Abbott abt 1889 Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter
James Whitson abt 1893 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son
Nora Whitson abt 1895 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Alix Whitson abt 1896 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son
John Whitson abt 1898 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son
Sarah Evans abt 1831 Longnewton, Wiltshire, England Mother-in-law
George Abbott abt 1886 Gloucestershire, England Stepson

Searching the Gloucestershire BMD Index we find 13 children with the Surname Abbott and mother's maiden name as Evans:

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
ABBOTT Alice Ada ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1875 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 33 380
ABBOTT Benjamin James ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1877 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 36 150
ABBOTT Edward ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1870 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 26 270
ABBOTT Frederick Alfred ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1882 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 43 390
ABBOTT George Edwin ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1887 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 51 409
ABBOTT Hubert Josiah ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1868 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 16 289
ABBOTT John Thomas ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1874 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 32 136
ABBOTT Male ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1867 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 22 169
ABBOTT Mary Elizabeth ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1886 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 49 412
ABBOTT Maud ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1889 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 56 8
ABBOTT Millicent Mary ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1872 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 29 112
ABBOTT Oliver Edwin ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1869 Gloucester Gloucester, Kingsholm 12 287
ABBOTT William Henry ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1866 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 21 97

There are 2 possible marriages:

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
ABBOTT Benjamin EVANS Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James 1869 29x No 2 419
ABBOTT William EVANS Mary Gloucester Gloucester Register Office 1866 6 20

Following the second one in the Census we have:
1871 Census
William Abbotts 29
Mary Abbotts 24
William H Abbotts 5
Hulbert I Abbotts 3
Edwin Abbotts 17

1881 Census:
Barton St Mary, Gloucester
William Abbott abt 1843 Worcestershire, England Head Widowed
William H. Abbott abt 1865 Gloucestershire, England Son
Hubert J. Abbott abt 1868 Gloucestershire, England Son
John T. Abbott abt 1876 Gloucestershire, England Son
Allis A. Abbott abt 1877 Daughter
Benjamin J. Abbott abt 1878 Son
Elizabeth Evans abt 1862 Bristol Servant
Edwin Abbott abt 1857 Worcestershire, England Boarder Brother (Boarder)

This tells us that Mary had died and this is the registration:
Deaths Jun 1878
ABBOTT Mary 32 Gloucester 6a 184

Referring back to the list of 13 births we can account for:
William Henry
Hubert Josiah
John Thomas
Alice Ada
Benjamin James
Millicent (with the Evans family in 1881 - see above)

So we check the remainder and find the following deaths:
Deaths Jun 1867
Abbott Male 0 Gloucester 6a 163

Deaths Sep 1869
Abbott Oliver Edwin 0 Gloucester 6a 153

Deaths Sep 1870
Abbott Edward 0 Gloucester 6a 234

Of the remainder the following are with James Whitson and family in 1901:
Frederick Alfred born 1882
George Edwin born 1887
Maud born 1889

and this leaves us with Mary Elizabeth born 1886.
In 1891 she is with Robert Allard and family in Gloucester but I have not traced her in subsequent Census returns. However looking at the 1901 Census for William Abbott he has a daughter Lily aged 13 living with him and in the 1911 Census William is with his daughter Lillian Church aged 24. Could this be Mary Elizabeth as we do not have a birth registration for Lillian Abbott.

Questions that remain:
Who is the father of the Abbott children born subsequent to the death of Mary Abbott nee Evans in 1878.
Is James Whitson who married Mary Evans the James Whitson who married Tabitha Herbert.

Mike

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Thanks Mike this is going to take some sorting, The age of James Whitson who married Tabitha ties up with the James Whitson who married Mary, so I am thinking this is the same man. James Whitson (who married Tabitha) father was George. I have yet to find the wife of George. James is my Great grandfather. George is my g.g grandfather all on the maternal side of the family. I have gone the direct line of paternal side, that is why I am now going down the maternal side. Anyway thanks for all the info.

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Thanks Mike this is going to take some sorting, The age of James Whitson who married Tabitha ties up with the James Whitson who married Mary, so I am thinking this is the same man. James Whitson (who married Tabitha) father was George. I have yet to find the wife of George. James is my Great grandfather. George is my g.g grandfather all on the maternal side of the family. I have gone the direct line of paternal side, that is why I am now going down the maternal side. Anyway thanks for all the info.

one to rule out then ? - father not George but Matthew

Name: Mathew Witson & Hannah Penn
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1845
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume Number: 26
Page Number: 305

Year: 1845
Month: 7th Sunday after
Day:
Grooms_Surname: WITSON
Grooms_Forenames: Matthew
Grooms_Age: Of Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Engineer
Grooms_Residence: The Forest of Deane
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Witson
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: PENN
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: Of Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Ruardean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Penn
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Butcher
Licence_or_Banns: [illegible]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: John Penn
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Penn
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Formby
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Name: James Witson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1845
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 465

WITSON James
WITSON PENN
1845 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 6 398

Year: 1845
Month: 3rd Sunday
Day: 0
Parents_Surname: WITSON
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Matthew
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Deane
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Henry Formby
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Date needs investigation
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 133
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

1851 Upper Bilson Cinderford
Mathew Witson abt 1823 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Witson abt 1829 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Witson abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Witson abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mor A Witson abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Upper Bilson Cinderford
Mathew Wilson abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Engine Driver
Hannah Wilson abt 1825 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Wilson abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Wilson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary A Wilson abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane S Wilson abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Wilson abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Wilson abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Upper Bilson
Matthew Wilson 49 Enginer
Hannah Wilson 47
Tom Wilson 21
Jane Wilson 18
Lucy Wilson 14
Rhoda Wilson 12
Eliza Wilson 6

1871 East Slade Works Ruardean Hill
James Wilson 65 Upper Bilson Labourer
Tabitha Wilson 33 East Dean
Florance M Wilson 2 East Dean

1881
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Herbert abt 1823 East Dean ((Coleford)), Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Herbert abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Herbert abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tabithea Whitson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Florance M. Whitson abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Allace Whitson abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean,

Name: Tabitha Whitson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1883
Age at Death: 36
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 165

1891
James Whitson abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Whitson abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Whitson abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maud Whitson abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Whitson abt 1891 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Evan abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Mother-in-law East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1904
Month: Sep
Day: 21
Surname: WHITSON
Forenames: James
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 58 years
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 168
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Name: James Whitson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1904
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 160

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Hi, I've only just picked up on this. I have James Whitson in my family tree.
In the 1851 census he is aged 5, living at, and it looks like Upper Bilson, with his father Matthew Whitson born 1822 in Littledean and mother Hannah nee Penn born 1824 in Ruardean. Siblings are Thomas 3 years old and Mary 2 months old. Not sure about the Abbott connection, I'm still working at it. My only question on James's second marriage to Mary Evans is, If she had married Benjamin Abbott prior to James Whitson, why isn't she Abbott in the second marriage?? Her mother Sarah Evans is shown living with the Whitson family in the 1901 census

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Hi Brian, Do you have a Tabitha who married James Whitson in your family tree. I am not sure whether Matthew and Hannah are my Jamesd's parents only because on his marriage his father is named as George. Saying that Tabitha's father is also named George. Could this be a mistake and Mstthew and Hannah are my James's parents.

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Hi Brian, Do you have a Tabitha who married James Whitson in your family tree. I am not sure whether Matthew and Hannah are my Jamesd's parents only because on his marriage his father is named as George. Saying that Tabitha's father is also named George. Could this be a mistake and Mstthew and Hannah are my James's parents.

We would need to check the image / or a BMD copy , it may be an error in transcription.

However
1861 Upper Bilson Cinderford
Mathew Wilson abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Engine Driver

and
1871 Upper Bilson
Matthew Wilson 49 Enginer

Year: 1868
Month: Jan
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: WHITSON
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 22b
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Littledean Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Witson
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Engine Tender
Brides_Surname: HERBERT
Brides_Forenames: Tabitha
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Brierly
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Herbert
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark
Witness_1: Charles Grindell
Witness_2: Susan Herbert
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 224
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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Hi Janger, this is the family of Matthew Whitson and Hannah Penn as I have it in our family tree. I feel that the fathers name George as shown on the marriage transcript is possibly a mistake.

James Whitson 1846 - 1904
Thomas Whitson 1848 –
Mary Ann Whitson 1851 –
Sarah Jane Whitson 1853 – 1900
Louisa Eliza Whitson 1857 – 1910 (My wife's great grand mother)
Rhoda Whitson 1859 –
Eliza Ann Whitson 1863 -

So you also asked about James Whitson and Tabitha Herbert.
They were married 6th January 1868,at Holy Trinity Church, Drybrook. Tabitha died in April 1883 and was buried 1st May 1883 in Ruardean graveyard. In the 1881 census it states that she suffered from fits.

Brian

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Benjamin Abbott married Charlotte Evans nee White in 1869.
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
ABBOTT Benjamin WHITE Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James 1869 29x No 2 419
ABBOTT Benjamin EVANS Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James 1869 29x No 2 419

This is the 1871 Census entry:
Name: Charlotte Abbot
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Wootton Ville
Town: Wootton Ville
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: Kingsholm
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 2611
Folio: 49
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Abbot 34
Susan Evans 13
George Evans 7
William Evans 4

I think Mary Ann Evans was a Spinster when she married James Whitson but it would appear she had children by a Mr Abbott prior to her marriage. See my earlier posting.

Mike

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James Whitson born 1845 married Tabitha Herbert (born 1848) in 1868. She died in 1883.
Did James remarry and/or went on to have any more children?
Two of their children were in the workhouse at Westbury in 1881. Barbara and Rosanna. I believe Rosanna died there.

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