William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851 (General)
by goldenfox , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 16:27 (4243 days ago)
Hi, I need help please on filling in the gaps that I am unable to fill ref. the above.
William married Asenath Hobbs in 1880 at Westbury-on-Severn, residing at Forthampton, and both appeared in the 1881 census age 28 and 29, William as a farmer of 110 acres. I cannot find them on the 1891,1901 and 1911 census, but William is recorded as being Buried at Huntley in 1919, residing at Solomons Tump Churcham at the time of his Death.
I believe Asenath was born in Rodley, Westbury-on-Severn, and this together with her marriage are the only traces of her.
Any help would be very much appreciated, thanks in anticipation.
William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by m p griffiths , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:26 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Just starting to look at this and checking with Gloucestershirebdm
PARRY - mother's maiden name HOBBS
Reginald J - 1882 - Cheltenham, Tewkesbury
Sidney W - 1881 - Cheltenham, Tewkesbury
Not sure if I'm on the right track?
1881 Census, Glos. Forthampton
PARRY
William J - 28 - Farmer of 110 acres, employing 2 labourer, born Westbury on Severn
Asinath - 29 - born Rodley, Westbury on Severn
Mary BOULTON - 19 - Servant, born Upleadon, Glos.
William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by ChrisW , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:36 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Just trying to check this one out.
1891
Address 1, Gloucester Road
Parish Hucclecote
District Gloucester, Kingsholm
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Householder 1
Name William Parry
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household Head (Widower)
Occupation Farm Bailiff
Birth Place Westbury On Severn
Birth County Gloucestershire
Householder 2
Name Sydney Parry
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Forthampton
Birth County Gloucestershire
Householder 3
Name Sarah S Griffin
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Housekeeper
Occupation
Birth Place Hartlebury
Birth County Gloucestershire
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William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by m p griffiths , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:40 (4242 days ago) @ ChrisW
1901 Census, Glos. Taynton
Prestburys
PARRY
William - 48 - Farmer, own account, born Westbury on Severn
Sarah S - 53 - born Worcestershire, Hartlebury
Sydney - 19 - born Glos. Fore
thhampton
Albert - 7 - born Whitminster, Glos.
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1911 Census, Longhope
William James PARRY age 58 - married 20 years - one children born alive, one living, Farm bailiff, born Westbury on Severn
Sarah Selina PARRY - wife - 63 - born Hartlesbury, Worcestershire
Albert James parry - son 17 - single, Drapers Assistant, born Whitminster, Glos
Letitia GRIFFIN - Visitor, 68 - single, born Hartlesbury, Worcestershire
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Servant
William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by ChrisW , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:41 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
From FreeBMD.
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1889
Parry Asenath 40 Tewkesbury 6a 260
William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by goldenfox , Monday, April 15, 2013, 11:53 (4242 days ago) @ ChrisW
Thanks again ChrisW, I could not find the Death Of Asenath anywhere, I see this info. was from the 'FreeBMD' presumably GloucestershireBMD?. I don't seem to be having much luck there, would like to know where I am going wrong!!!???
Asenath PARRY nee HOBBS 1846 -1889
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, April 15, 2013, 11:54 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Thanks again ChrisW, I could not find the Death Of Asenath anywhere, I see this info. was from the 'FreeBMD' presumably GloucestershireBMD?. I don't seem to be having much luck there, would like to know where I am going wrong!!!???
It is there in Glos BMD
look for Surname - hobbs
first name - as
Birth
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
HOBBS Aseneth HOBBS HOBBS WRIGHT 1846 Gloucester Gloucester, Huntley 3 396
1851 Rodley
John Hobbs abt 1807 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Ann Hobbs abt 1815 Worcestershire, England Wife Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Thomas Hobbs abt 1840 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
John Hobbs abt 1842 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Maryann Hobbs abt 1844 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Asenath Hobbs abt 1847 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
James Hobbs abt 1849 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Infant Hobbs abt 1851 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
1861 Ivy House, Rodley
John Hobbs abt 1807 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Thomas Hobbs abt 1840 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
John Hobbs abt 1842 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Asenath Hobbs abt 1847 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
James Hobbs abt 1849 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Julia Hobbs abt 1851 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
Caroline Nicholls abt 1835 Brook White, Monmouthshire, Wales Housekeeper Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire
1871 Ivy House Rodley
Jno Hobbs 64
Mary Ann Hobbs 27
Asenath Hobbs 24
Julia Hobbs 20
Ellen Hobbs 4
Year: 1880
Month: Sep
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: PARRY
Grooms_Forenames: William James
Grooms_Age: 28
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Farmer
Grooms_Residence: Forthampton
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Parry
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: HOBBS
Brides_Forenames: Asenath
Brides_Age: 29
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Westbury on Severn
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hobbs
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Carpenter
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Thos Hobbs
Witness_2: Albert F Parry
Other_Witnesses: Julie Hobbs; Elizabeth Ann Parry
Officiating_Minister: Chrisr Jay Jones M.A. Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/19
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
look for Surname - parry
first name - as
Death
PARRY Asenath
40
1889 Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury 21 128
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by ChrisW , Monday, April 15, 2013, 16:45 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
"I see this info. was from the 'FreeBMD' presumably GloucestershireBMD?"
Nope - from the following site:
It covers England & Wales.
William James Parry 1852-1919 & Asenath Hobbs 1851
by ChrisW , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:43 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Yep. Looks like he married his housekeeper.
Marriages Jun 1891
Griffin Sarah Selina Gloucester 6a 461
Parry William James Gloucester 6a 461
Pick Leah Gloucester 6a 461
Swift Arthur John Gloucester 6a 461
Sarah Selina GRIFFIN (2nd Wife)
by m p griffiths , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 20:17 (4242 days ago) @ ChrisW
1871 Census, Hartlebury, Worcestershire
GRIFFIN
Elizabeth - 65 - Farmer of 60 acres, born Worcester, Martley
Thomas - 20 - all born Hartlebury
Letitia - 28 (with Sarah - 1911 census)
Sarah S - 23
Thomas E COOPER - Grandson - 15
Sarah Selina GRIFFIN (2nd Wife)
by goldenfox , Monday, April 15, 2013, 11:44 (4242 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Many thanks again M P Griffiths, I don't seem to have much luck with Gloucestershire BDM, where am I going wrong???
Sarah Selina GRIFFIN (2nd Wife) marriage in Churchdown
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, April 15, 2013, 11:53 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Many thanks again M P Griffiths, I don't seem to have much luck with Gloucestershire BDM, where am I going wrong???
It is there in Glos BMD :-)
PARRY William James
GRIFFIN Sarah Selina
Gloucester Churchdown St Bartholomew
1891 11 No 1 402
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FreeBMD & GlosBMD sites, some pointers
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, April 15, 2013, 14:31 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
Hi Goldenfox,
apologies if I'm missing the point but it appears you're having problems navigating the above websites. If this is the case then hopefully this prior thread will help you, they are both free access websites which give access to the UK BMD Registers taken from 1837.
FreeBMD plans to eventually cover the whole UK, altho in my experience it already seems to offer almost complete coverage across our region, the Ancestry website (and probably others) already use it altho they only include coverage upto 1915, whereas FreeBMD itself gives data upto abt 1960. When searching FreeBMD it will generally only see the exact same names as you enter in the search box, it won't offer alternative spelling variants etc. Also I recommend at first you don't enter full second names into the search box, just use it's initial (eg R. G. FOX not Reynard Golden Fox) this will ensure all likely results are found which will indeed include full first names (when known), and full second names but only upto 1911; searching this way avoids the site missing likely relevant hits. It's then easy to visually scan thro the tabulated results and hopefully spot what you're looking for, altho you may wish to filter for example by county (usually Glos, Herefds and Monmouthshire for "our" ancestors).
GlosBMD is a separate/independent site as far as I'm aware and is one of the official Glos Archives Sites. It's a very "clever" site as does a good job of offering spelling variants, or listing all full first names if you input just an initial, and so on. Unlike this FoD PRs site it gives Registry Office as well as Church Parish Records. Again as with most sites using "search boxes" at first I recommend "less is more" when it comes to inputting your target data. (UPDATE, however in recent years the site demands us to enter a year when searching a name/event, it will only give hits around that time, unlike in the past)
I strongly recommend you use all these sites in combination when searching an individual, they all complement each other to give the fullest possible picture.
I do hope this helps a little, like all such sites "practice makes perfect", the more you experiment using them, trying different levels of input info etc, the more success you'll eventually get.
Happy hunting !
FreeBMD & GlosBMD sites, some pointers
by goldenfox , Monday, April 15, 2013, 15:51 (4242 days ago) @ Jefff
Hi Jefff, many many thanks for your message. I have been working on my 'tree' on and off now for a while and making progress thanks in no small part to people like your goodself on the F.O.D site. My ancestors on the paternal side are from Gloucestershire and the Forest of Dean, and South Glos.on my maternal side. It was my good fortune not so long ago to be recommended to the F O D site when I phoned the Glos Records Office asking for advice, and what an excellent site it is. The GloucestershireBMD site is comparatively new to me, but now armed with your'pointers' I will be better equipped from now on.
Thanks again
Asenath HOBBS - mother's maiden name WRIGHT
by m p griffiths , Sunday, April 14, 2013, 19:54 (4242 days ago) @ goldenfox
1871 Census
Westbury on Severn
Huntley
Rodley Road
Ivy House
Jno HOBBS - 64, Carpenter, born Westbury on Severn
Mary Ann - 27
Asenath - 24
Julia - 20
Ellen - Grandaughter - 4 - born Frampton on Severn
Caroline BURROWS, visitor, born Abinghall
Rhoda Phoebe REECE - visitor, 23 - born Cinderford
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Gloucestershirebdm
HOBBS - mother's maiden name WRIGHT (Freebdm - John HOBBS married Ann WRIGHT, Worcester District J/F/M Qtr 1839)
Asenath - 1846, Gloucester, Huntley
(more births on the above website)
1851 Census Westbury on Severn
HOBBS
John - 44 , Carpenter, Master Man - born Westbury on Severn
Ann - 36 - born Worcester
Thomas - 11
John - 9
Maryann - 7
Asenath - 4
James - 1
Infant - daughter - 1 week or month - looking at Gloucestershirebdm - named Julia
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1841 Census, Westbury on Severn
Rodley
John HOBBS - 30 - Carpenter - all born in County
Ann - 26
Thomas - 17 months (Gloucestershirebdm - 1839 - Gloucester, Huntley Office)