Jane TURLEY/HAWKINS - previous thread (General)

by peteressex , Monday, April 29, 2013, 23:35 (4228 days ago) @ RalphCook

Hi, Ralph. Thanks for your information.

By stating 1742 for William Hawkins' birth I've only managed to increase the confusion. It was a typing error and I meant 1702. Taken in isolation, that would solve the miracle of someone born in 1742 fathering someone in 1731.

However, I took my data from a remote female relative's tree on genesreunited, I don't know her source, and I am currently out of touch with her. I was relying on that tree to say that the parents of Christian Hawkins bpt 1731 were William Hawkins born c. 1702 (typed correctly this time!) and Elizabeth u/k also born around then, and that William's parents were Edward Hawkins of Newland and Ann nee Bedoes of Awre. Alas, now that I look through the transcribed Awre records on here, I can't see a William Hawkins baptised there any time around 1702. I begin to suspect myself of having adopted a 2+2=5 conclusion.

The Awre transcriptions on this site give Christian Hawkins as bpt Awre (Blakeney Chapel) on 4 June 1731 as daughter of William Hawkins, mother not stated. The transcriptions do give us a William Hawkins bpt Huntley 1713 as son of John and Elizabeth.

You obviously have a source enabling you to say that William, father of Christian, though born Huntley, had familial connections with Awre as well as enabling you to refer to the exploits at Awre of his brother John and sister Elizabeth. I've also noted that although the Awre baptismal record for Christian Hawkins in 1731 gives only the father, William, there is also a baptism there of Edward Hawkins, son of William and Elizabeth, in 1733 and Barrow Hawkins, son of William and Elizabeth, in 1738. (There is also a burial at Awre of Christian Hawkins, daughter of Edward, on 9 April 1755, which might be a case of a fairly unusual female first name being kept in the family.)

If, therefore, you can describe the strength of your source or sources, I might well be happy to repent of taking my line through from William Sterry and Ann nee Shaw to Edward Hawkins and Ann nee Bedoes and instead to take it up to John and Elizabeth Hawkins at Huntley.

The connection you describe between Awre and Huntley is all the more interesting for me because my earliest Sterry by paper trail is Richard Sterry who was married at Minsterworth in 1793 and fathered William Sterry the husband of Ann Shaw. Richard died at Awre and the Sterrys continued to lurk around Blakeney until gravitating to Lydney where some still lurk albeit by various surnames. Having been stuck at the 1793 wedding, we have recently proved by DNA that our line of Sterrey (as it is now spelt - my father's mother's line) is identical with that of the Longhope Sterrys going back to about 1660. You are now pointing to somewhat similar travel.

Carry this on by private e-mail if you prefer, or stay in this forum - I don't mind.

Regards
Peter